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unCliche · 22/11/2020 11:31

Hey @ButterscotchBabe! Continuing our chat here 😁

I loooove that your temps did exactly what mine did too. So good that AF hasn't arrived at CD26!! Happy for you! When your temps increased last month, was it is to a gradual high or did it jump up again and then AF started? Because if this pattern is new, it could mean good news!

Ours definitely look like the beginning of a triphasic chart. My temps last month started dropping at 7DPO, so it still being high at 9DPO is such an achievement for me and no sign of AF either although my vulva feels AF'y in a weird way. My pulse and breathing rate have also continued to shoot up!! If temps don't tell you AF is coming, pulse rate defo will because it always starts falling a few days before AF for me.

I do suspect chemical but no BFP so can't confirm and nothing else changed that cycle so I can't explain it. Hormones were defo the reason I never took the pill, it plays such a big part in changing your reproductive cycle that of course it would have an affect on cycles after you come off them! 45 day cycles sound like a nightmare - especially when TTC too.

I do have a FRER! I'm always so scared to use it though. I always use rubbish ICs which probably aren't the best thing but I will use my FRER with you!

I like predicting what my temps will do with DH. What do you think will happen tomorrow? I think both our temps will go up again 😆

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ButterscotchBabe · 21/05/2021 07:12

I had a dream that you were pregnant, let's hope it's this cycle!

ButterscotchBabe · 20/05/2021 21:44

Haha once a month our cycle matches the title of this thread 😂.

How comprehensive was the survey you had?If the surveyor said the roof was fine and it's not, you could make a claim against them because you've bought a house based on false, or inadequate information given by them. I would get at least 5 quotes, when you're gonna be spending £1000s you want to make sure you've got the best deal.

I probably could have asked more questions at the scan but it always feels like they're trying to rush you out 😕.

Your temp hasn't dropped too much, it's still pretty high 🙂, what it does tomorrow will be a big indicator of what's happening. Could always be an implantation dip 🤞. If it goes up again do you think you'll test, or wait a few more days? Yeh my temps aren't doing anything too exciting yet, hopefully I'll get a good rise tomorrow.

I think your GP should be able to request the blood test, add it to their system and then all you need to do is walk in to the hospital. Might be worth asking them as you don't want to delay treatment over a blood test. Hopefully they'll be able to sort something for you.

My rabbits are quite similar to yours, when they're not eating or sleeping, the white one is more energetic and hates being picked up (which is strange because for the first two days he was the easier one!). The grey one is much calmer, often hides and takes a while to investigate, however he doesn't mind being handled. Trying to cut the white ones nails is impossible, he just constantly wriggles, how do you manage it?

Oh no, might be easier to cut the poopy fur off? I've had to wipe wee off their fur but luckily no poos yet, they've all been little hard balls! Although they have squished some poos into the hutch wood 🙄.

Great job on the garden! It sounds like you've made lots of progress, what's the next task?

I'd love to hire a cleaner, instead I've made a house jobs board for us 😂😂. On Saturday we're going to view a wedding venue and then on Sunday taking the rabbits to the vets. Fingers crossed they are both boys or we'll be having a lot more rabbits 😂😂.

I hope you have a nice weekend with your family and they don't put pressure on you about babies.

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unCliche · 20/05/2021 15:31

Today is 9DPO for me as per the thread title! So it's perfect for symptom spotting, only thing is, there are no symptoms to spot! 😂

Yup it was defo an existing issue. In the survey report, the surveyor said repairing the roof lining wasn't necessary???? And now we have a leaky roof 😒 We got one quote at £7500 and another at £15000!!! We're waiting for a 3rd quote then will choose the best one. It's annoying but there's not much else we can do. It'll probably take us another 2/3 months to save up for IVF again but DH now wants us to save a substantial amount as an emergency fund before we go for IVF so it could be 6 months until we have enough in the pot.

Ah that's annoying. When I had my scan done, the monitor was facing me, so I could see everything. Not that I knew what I was looking at 😂 MRI scan would defo be interesting to see! It'll probably be super clear too so you'd know exactly what you were seeing.

Your chart looks like how mine usually looks. You have the ovulation dip I usually get with the temp the day after at a similar point as the temp from the day before. Then you have a slow rise like how I usually do. Interesting! I think I spoke too soon about my temps. I got a bit of a drop today, which is really interesting for 9DPO. I usually get drops this big when AF is imminent and I'm not due for 3 days yet. Tomorrow will tell all!

Thanks for the info! I've checked and there is apparently a service like that in the area but they require a slip from your doctor. All I have is verbal confirmation of needing one. I've also checked their online booking system and the earliest availability is 28th May, so too late anyway. I'll call in to see if there's an earlier date, or better yet, having a 14 day LP!

My white rabbit is very hyperactive and never keeps still. He's very inquisitive and wants to go everywhere and chew everything. He's very happy and excitable and not shy at all. Grey rabbit is the complete opposite. He's very reserved. Doesn't really hop around. He's happy to stay in one place. He has a quiet curiosity about him and isn't as defiant as his brother. He gets easily upset and hides a lot. With your rabbits, you'll start to understand their personality. Maybe they're just introverted? My rabbits have always lived outdoors and they were only ever vaccinated once and I didn't bother with it again and we had loads of mosquitos when we lived near the river but they're doing ok. Fingers crossed it stays that way. It's really expensive to vaccinate them (and if I'm honest, I can't be bothered)!

How are yours doing? Are they ok with being picked up?

Yes, I think her poop is doing much better but she had some solid pieces stuck in her fur today 🤢 I took her and her blanket off my bed because she stunk. Wait until you have to start cleaning your rabbits poopy butt. I've had to do it for both grey rabbit and Aski 💩

I managed to burn a lot of the wood yesterday. The garden looks much tidier now. I'm taking the last of the garden waste to the recycling centre again today.

I also have family staying over tomorrow so we have cleaners coming in tomorrow. Are you doing anything for your weekend?

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ButterscotchBabe · 20/05/2021 13:14

Oh no!! Do you have home insurance? Do you think this was an existing problem with the property? Try and get a few quotes to make sure you're not being ripped off. That's such a shame you had to cancel with ABC ☹️, at least you've got the ball rolling with the NHS.

I didn't get to see anything on the scan, my head was kind of behind the monitor, so I could only see the back of it. I will be asking to see the MRI results though! Yes I am feeling more optimistic now there's more follicles on my ovaries, it's given me hope that they will get plenty of eggs!

Your temp is doing amazing! I wonder if the progesterone boost last month has made your body realise it's not producing enough, so its produced more this time?!

The hospital here has a blood walk in area, anyone can just walk in for a blood test. They look up your details on the system and see what the doctor has requested. Why don't you ask your GP if that's possible? Then you can go to the hospital to have the FSH done on the right day.

Yes luckily my work is very flexible with start/finish times, it makes it much easier to attend appointments.

The rabbit humping has calmed down 😂😂 they must have established the hierarchy! Got them booked in for vaccinations on Sunday, then we can let them out in the garden. They're very lazy rabbits, they don't do much 😂 I was expecting rabbits to run, jump and play but these two just eat and sleep 😂😂. Do you remember how energetic yours were when you first got them?

Oh no that's not nice with Aski's poop 😕, has it hardened up yet?

I guess your arms would build up the strength because you start with a newborn and then they slowly get heavier and heavier, so hopefully the muscle building keeps up!

The weather here is horrendous today 🌧️🌧️

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unCliche · 20/05/2021 09:36

Cancelled my appointment at ABC. Roof is going to cost us at least £7000 😭😭😭

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unCliche · 19/05/2021 10:44

Happy 1DPO, although quite a late one you got there in the end! Did they tell you the size of the follicle? Did you get to see it as well? That's really good news about the 10 follicles! The number does vary from cycle to cycle so hopefully once you start on IVF meds it'll really encourage a good number to grow. Annoying about the fluid, but I guess it confirms what you already knew. Just need to wait for the MRI to give you greater visibility into your tubes, hopefully you won't have too long to wait for it. Are you feeling a bit more optimistic?

My temp went up to 36.9 today 😱 this is my highest natural temp yet and it's on par with my temps from my progesterone-influnced cycle. I've done an overlay. The only difference is last cycle I reached the higher temps sooner. I think it'll hover at that temp before falling around 10dpo. I have my usual symptoms. Sore boobs and nipples, some cramping. Nothing unusual.

Ah, depending on when AF starts, I'll probably be between CD5 and CD7, so it'll be too late for that too. I'll have to call in and see if there are any cancellations so I can go in earlier. Annoying!

Haha! High five to Jan 2020 😂😂😂

It's not terrible. Just a small leak above our bed. We still sleep below it so it's not major but could turn into a bigger problem if we don't sort it out. We have roofers coming in today to have a look at it. Hopefully the quote isn't too steep or else we may have to delay IVF for a few months or go via the NHS.

Haha oooh! You can basically choose your own start time? It's good to have flexibility. How's life with the rabbits? Glad to hear a name has been given to your little grey one! So cute!! I suppose it's nice (?) that they're taking it in turns to get a good hump in 😂😂😂

Yes, Aski has medication she has to take for a few days. She's doing much better now. No more growling and she's up and about. On the day of her op when she got home, her poop was really loose and got stuck in her fur so I've been cleaning her up over several days. I've just put our bedding in the wash too although we made her sleep on her blanket while on our bed 😷

Gosh imagine if you have a clingy baby and have to carry them everywhere. My arms would be so tired after about 1 minute 😂 I better start working out then!

I'm really hating this weather although it has stopped a bit right now so I'm tempted to start a fire and burn more. I'm going to the recycling centre today so will take as much wood and garden waste as I can with me. That'll save us some time.

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ButterscotchBabe · 18/05/2021 22:45

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ButterscotchBabe · 18/05/2021 22:43

I think I've ovulated today as my left ovary has been tender and they saw a large follicle on it during the ultrasound. Also my right ovary had 10 follicles on it, which is great news, it means I might produce an okay amount of eggs for IVF. At the previous ultrasound I only had 4 on the left and 5 on the right. I didn't ask how many were on the left this time but hopefully it was a similar amount! They saw the fluid again around my right ovary but the ultrasound isn't clear enough to determine if the fluid is in my fallopian tubes, so I won't know until I have the MRI. Still waiting for a letter with a date for the MRI.

Your temps are looking great! They're the highest yet since 4DPO 😀. Dare I ask, have you got any symptoms??

Sounds like your GP appointment went well! What CD do you expect to be on next Friday? FSH needs to be done between CD1-5, ideally CD3. We also started TTC in Jan 2020 😉.

Oh no! That sucks about the leak! How bad is it, do you need a bucket to catch the water?

Two Fridays a month as full days off, that's awesome! My mind is always more productive in the morning, so I like starting work early. Although now with the rabbits my morning routine has extra jobs! Start times vary depending on whether I have a bath or shower and what I make for breakfast.

Aww Aski doesn't look very impressed! Glad the op went well, have they given you some painkillers for her? How long does she need to keep the recovery shirt on for? She looks cute in it, bless her!

The rabbits are 9 weeks and doing loads of humping! I thought the grey one was submitting to the white one but today he did some humping, including face humping! We've finally named the grey rabbit Wispa 😊.

Haha yeh babies look little and light but can be quite heavy, I think Mums build up a lot of strength picking up babies and young children all the time!

How long do you think it will take to burn all the wood you've chopped? More rain again today 🙄, ready for summer now!

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unCliche · 18/05/2021 20:07

Charts.

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unCliche · 18/05/2021 20:07

Update!

  1. Temp went up a bit today. Overlay chart excludes last cycles progesterone-influenced chart. Seems like my highest temp for 7DPO so far.
  2. Spoke to GP. I'll be having a blood test next week Friday for FSH and also Rubella antibodies. She also wants to check progesterone but I've passed 6DPO so may have to do it next cycle. She said once I do my blood tests and send over DH's SA, she'll refer us. Told her we'd been trying a year and a half 😂 I've let DH know to remember that we started TTC Jan 2020 as a way to see in the new decade 😂😂
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unCliche · 17/05/2021 19:16

Yay! You'll most likely be ovulating today then. Gosh we're so far apart now! I'm 6DPO so once again, our cycles have been pulled apart, but hopefully, we'll somehow find a way back together 😂 Unless either of us get pregnant, then we'd have to wait a whole year or more! 😂 Good luck with your ultrasound tomorrow. Hopefully it sheds some light as to what's going on. Fingers crossed for good news 🤞

I don't think using the pessaries now will help. I definitely won't have a fertilised egg inside me so it'll just be a waste. And my temp rise this morning was pitiful 😅 so I'm not really expecting anything from this cycle or the next one. Just biding my time until we can start IVF. However, our roof has a leak which may set us back a bit, so we'll just have to wait and see how much it'll all cost!!

Ah that's interesting that you can work overtime to save up some days off! I don't think we have anything like that at work. We usually have every second Friday of the month as a half day but they've now introduced two Fridays a month as full days off, which is great! But at least some days you finish at 3pm. Is there a reason for the early starts and the varying start times?

You're right! UK mosquito bites are pretty tame but those from abroad are horrid! Ughhh!! I really really hate them!!

Aski spay went well! She currently in a little recovery shirt and she absolutely hates it. She keeps growling 😂😂 I can't stop laughing at her. She seriously looks pissed off! 😂😂 Now she's sleeping beside me, poor thing 💕

Humping already?? How old are they? Mine didn't start until they were 6 months. You need to be careful with the backward humping as the one being humped could bite off his brothers bits 🍆 Rabbits can get really really aggressive. I'll have to send you some videos of my crazy hormonal boys from back then. Also, what are their names??!!!

Their baby must be going on 4 months. I held him and he's so heavy! I forgot what they fell like! Thought he'd be a similar weight to my cat but I suppose he's a real life human and we're all just heavy 😂

We've had non-stop rain too. It's annoying because I really need to sort the garden out. We burnt some wood yesterday, which was a huge success, so we're slowly starting to clear up all the mess we've made.

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ButterscotchBabe · 17/05/2021 13:27

They're very sleepy babies, in-between humping 😂😂

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ButterscotchBabe · 17/05/2021 13:21

Finally got a peak today! So looks like ovulation will be later today or early tomorrow, a late one this cycle! My next ultrasound is tomorrow so I should be able to see a dominant follicle to confirm ovulation 🙂.

You've only got 1 or 2 natural cycles left, so it might be worth using up the pessaries? Or would you prefer to save them for when you get a BFP? Hopefully you've had a better rise in temp today 😊.

Haha I'm very punctual, DP is always late and it drives me mad 😂. My work times vary quite a lot, sometimes I'll do 7-3, 8-4, 9-5 or a short day and then a long day. I more often do long days and build up Flexi time, so I can get extra days leave 😊. Does your work allow you to have Flexi time?

If you tell the GP you've been trying for a year and you've had a progesterone test privately which has come back low, indicating a problem with ovulation, that should help speed things along and prevent them from being dismissive 🙂.

That sounds awful 🦟🦟, the worst mosquito bites I've experienced was in Majorca. Our hotel was near a wetland and I was getting bitten everyday. The bites swelled up loads and were incredibly itchy and painful. I've never reacted that bad in the UK but these were like super mosquitos 😱😱.

Good luck with Aski's spaying today, hope it goes okay!

There was lots of humping yesterday, mainly the white one humping the grey one. Even backwards humping (humping the face!) 😱. I've also noticed the grey one chews and tries to dig a lot more than the white one, I hope the grey isn't a female or we'll end up with inbred babies 😂😂. I've contacted a vets and requested an appointment, so I'll try and get them neutered asap.

Oh dear haha, how old is their baby now?

Yes very rainy here! This must be the wettest May in a long time!! I'm guessing it must have been rainy where you are too?

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unCliche · 16/05/2021 19:16

And here's my chart.

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unCliche · 16/05/2021 19:15

You must have a +ve OPK today right?? My temp today was the same as yesterday so I wonder if it'll get any higher. Last cycle's high temps were nice but it'll probably never happen again (naturally)! I still have seven progesterone pessaries left but I'll probably save them for whenever.

If you start work at 8am, does that mean you finish at 4pm? I'd hate to start that early. I'm guessing before covid you used to get into the office for 8am. Even when I went into the office, I'd get up at 8am! I'm just terrible at being on time for work.

Fingers crossed! I really do hope it's any easy transfer. At least they should put you in the queue. You may have to wait 6 months, but that won't be too terrible.

Yeah, my GP appointment is on Tuesday. It's just a telephone appointment though but I don't think I'd need to see the doctor face to face to tell her we're infertile. I hope she's understanding!

My 8 months trying seems like a cop out when someone has been trying for 3 years! That's a lot of faith and strength! But at least the help is out there and she's going for it! I really hope she gets her baby! Let me know how she gets on in the future.

I don't have anything for the mosquito bites but they're starting to go down now. It's annoying but since I've started wearing more layers, I haven't been bitten. The worst I've experienced was in Turkey. Those mosquitos were like warriors. They came at you with all their might and you couldn't keep them out. PTSD! It was a warzone. Have you ever seen manic mosquitos before? Tourist blood must be sweeter because they go crazy for it.

Aski is getting spayed tomorrow! Finally. She's been meowing loads because she wants to go outside. So once she's healed up, we'll definitely let her explore.

It was a nightmare with the boys. They fought. Lots! It was literally a to the death battle. But with rabbits, you need to let them fight it out so they can establish dominance. But the hormones didn't help and they were really aggressive towards each other. Try to get them neutered early before their hormones kick in and it should be ok. If not, you'll need to separate them, but at least you have two levels to their hutch. We separated our boys but because they fought loads, we were worried they wouldn't bond again but we got really really lucky and they love each other again! Male pairs are difficult to bond so if they're already cuddling you might be alright. How are they getting on?

We met up with our old neighbours today and I wasn't sad. If anything, it made be feel like I didn't want a baby 😂😂😂

How are your weekend been? Rainy?

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ButterscotchBabe · 15/05/2021 20:40

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ButterscotchBabe · 15/05/2021 19:57

Good to see you've had a nice rise in temp today! Yeh based on your OPKs it looks like ovulation was CD14. My OPK was 55% this morning but then 42% this afternoon, so I think my peak is gonna happen tomorrow. On CD15 I had 41% in the morning so I noted it as high as thought I would get my peak later in the day, but it went down so I removed it on FF and noted it as negative.

😂😂 I start work at 8am! I'm an early bird and you're a night owl 🦉😉. Could always do middle of the night and then go back to sleep?!

Yeh I've said we've been trying for over a year, so there's no reason for them to deny us NHS funding, fingers crossed they don't make it difficult! The first consultant we spoke to said it would be easy to transfer!

Do you know when your appointment with the GP is? Hope it goes well! It's really good you've got that as a back up 😊.

Aww thanks, I'm surprised she waited 3 years to seek help! I guess she was just really hopeful it would happen naturally ☹️.

I think most people will struggle to understand the choice to go through IVF because most people don't need to make that decision. You need to do what's right for you, if I didn't have low AMH and possible hydrosalpinx I would go for IVF with ABC.

Oh no, mosquito bites are the worst! Do you have hydrocortisone to put on them? There are mosquito repellents you can buy, might be worth looking into! Yeh you won't be able to continue wearing extra layers as the summer gets warmer.

Aww that's sweet that she loves affection because some cats don't! When is she due to be spayed?

Haven't done any more sewing yet, today has been taken over with getting the bunnies! When we got home we had to build the hutch, we couldn't build it before because we had to have a big clear out. I'm a bit nervous about having two males because I'm worried they'll fight before we get them neutered. They cuddle and love each other now but that might not last when hormones kick in. How did you manage it with your two?

I'll have to send pics in a different message!

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unCliche · 15/05/2021 14:48

Awwww little babies!!! 😍😍

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ButterscotchBabe · 15/05/2021 14:02

They had 2 boys left so decided to get both 🥰

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ButterscotchBabe · 15/05/2021 11:15

www.pets4homes.co.uk/classifieds/3284400-mini-lop-rabbits-tiverton.html

Pets at home only had one albino rabbit which had some health problems, so I've decided to buy off a private breeder and we're about to go and view these 😀😀

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unCliche · 15/05/2021 09:46

Also your chart has a +ve OPK inputted on CD15. Did you get a +ve??

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I'll have to do what you do and attach the pic separately. Hopefully that'll work.

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unCliche · 15/05/2021 09:45

Send pics! Send pics! Send pics! 🐇🐇🐇

Haha well that doesn't help narrow down exactly when I ovulated but I think CD14 is a safe bet anyway. FF seemed to think I ovulated on CD15 so I had to override it. I think it was because of the super non-existent rise I got at 1DPO. But since then, it's risen quite a bit. Any OPK progression yet?

6:30am is so early! We're up around 8am if we're being early birds 😂 and I highly doubt either of us would be up for waking up even earlier 😂😂 so no morning DTD for us. I'll just be jealous and do nothing about it 😊

Oh dear, they didn't make the funding situation very clear. I really hope you get it sorted. Have you told them you've been trying for at least a year? Although that shouldn't matter as you have real issues affecting your fertility and it should be clear to them that you need IVF. Keep pushing!

Yes, I've been transferred to my new GP. I'll be having the appointment there. Luckily my doctor is a woman so hopefully she'll be able to understand and sympathise and maybe help get us on the NHS waiting list.

That's a really kind thing you did 💕 3 years 😔 bless her. I'm surprised she went public with it. Sometimes, people just don't get it and they'll say insensitive things like that. At least she knows she's not alone and has someone in real life to talk to about it. It's lovely you're being a good friend 💕

No one has said anything about my IVF. Although my friend said she wanted to visit next month and I told her I'd be starting my IVF then and she was surprised that I wasn't joking 😂😂 I guess since we haven't been trying for a year yet, it's a pretty extreme decision but oh well, I want a baby and I want one now! 😂😂😂

I've been doing work in the garden and my legs are covered in bites. I think mosquitos 🦟 absolutely hate them! So now I'm piling on the layers when I go into the garden which doesn't help as it's getting warmer! The garden is a mess so I'm hoping to clear some of it out. I've bought an incinerator bin so will start burning pretty much everything now!

Aski has been sleeping in our bed this whole week for some reason! And I've had to squash up against DH because she sleeps horizontally 😂😂 It's mostly me she disturbs because she'll climb on top of me and sleep on me. Or be touching me one way or another. She'll paw at the covers to wake me up and start purring. She loves affection and I love her 💕💕

Any plans for your weekend except getting a rabbit? How is your sewing project coming along?

Message won't pooooost!!!!!

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