9DPO Symptom Spotting

@printedlace Sorry to hear about your CP. I can't even begin to imagine how difficult that must have been. Hope you've been looking after yourself 💕

@ButterscotchBabe I'm still nervous about testing. I'm half expecting my temps to come crashing down tomorrow morning. I don't think I'd feel very confident if it did. I'd rather AF make the decision for me 😅 Are you looking forward to using your FRER? Do you have more than one?

What colour is the spotting. If it's pink or brown and still light then I don't think you should give up hope! My CM is sort of sticky now and quite watery but I do recall feeling wet before AF arrives . Tomorrow seems like a pivotal day for us.

I've been feeling so unwell today. Not with a stomach ache per se, but I've literally had to go to the toilet a good number of times today. I would have said food poisoning but I mostly feel fine. I just get a rumble in my stomach and it's time to go.

Yeah, a longer LP would be great but a BFP would be better! Let's hope the vitamins can get us that. But if this whole odourous business is what it means to have a good level of progesterone, then I might have to have a stern word with my body to compromise on new PMS symptoms.

Yes, that's one way of attaching a lining and probably the easiest way to do it. But usually you put the dress together and the lining together and then attach them via the neckline, back seam or something.

Any plans for the weekend?

Hi @WicketBasket, it's just myself and ButterscotchBabe on the thread and we both haven't been pregnant before so we can't really say. But I have chatted to ladies who have had cramps and thought AF was coming but then got their BFPs.
@printedlace I completely get it. I really want to test but I'm so nervous of disappointment. Hopefully your symptoms are good things!

I probably should pour it down the toilet now. I can't believe how nervous I am to test! I'm usually quite keen to whip out a HPT. 😂 The poor guy had no idea what I was on about until he got to the bathroom.

Spotting is always so exciting! That's a symptom I see a lot of ladies have! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you, I hope it's IB! And 9 DPO sounds about right for that too. I can't imagine your LP would be getting shorter. Do keep me updated!

Yeah I'm still taking my vitamins. I'm just thinking maybe the vits are helping by increasing my progesterone more than usual, hence the sore nipples and higher temps.

Yeah I can smell him too! I can't smell anything else other than body odour and I smell really sweaty down there too. I hate it!!! Maybe we're just smelly people 🤷‍♀️ Haha! How have you managed to avoid smelling his farts so far?? 😂

Hahaha!! I'm just imagining a colleague asking us all to stand up for no reason 😂😂 I don't think I've seen anyone stood up on a zoom call.

How is your dress coming along? I ordered some zippers that arrived yesterday, so I'll be finishing my garments today. I finish work today too, so should have time to start and finish my Christmas dress project, or was it a playsuit? Either way, I've changed my mind.

Gosh, I fell back asleep and properly overslept!

I haven't tested yet, but I do have a cup of FMU in the bathroom. I'm really nervous and just don't want the disappointment, so I'll leave the pee there and see how I feel later. DH got out of bed this morning and the first thing I said to him was "Don't touch my pee!"... But I'm not sure why he would...

From what I've read and seen on FF, temps could pretty much do anything without it meaning something so I'm not putting much hope in mine and yours going slightly down really makes no difference so your BFN could just be because it's still quite early.

Off I go to stalk FF charts!

Your dream sounds like the dream! Dreams about pregnancy can also really signify pregnancy in real life! Let's hope this is a premonition! I've been having such weird dreams recently. They've made no sense!

More CM sounds awesome! Can't believe we both haven't dried up. What a curiously strange cycle. I'm still creamy with some tiny bit of stretch. But I've read people having anything from dry to EWCM to sticky around the time AF is due and are pregnant so I don't know what all this means!!

Actually do you think it could be the vitamins properly settling into our system? Maybe that's why we have some changes this cycle?

Funny you mentioned your DP saying you feel hot! Do you feel hot?
I felt quite warm this morning and must has sweated a bit because I smell a bit sweaty and I can properly smell it. But the thing is, my clothes don't smell strongly sweaty and neither do my armpits. I'm fed up of smelling myself!!! Gonna ask DH to sniff my clothes.

Hehe I always have silly thoughts of that happening. Like I'm on camera and there's some emergency happening around me and I have to get up and run out of the room and everyone sees my shorts. I'm so weird. 😂 What do you wear when you have to great dressed for camera day??

That is quite a scary thought. I guess giving birth via CS minimises the risk of complications and it makes sense why some women would choose it. I never knew hospitals could offer vaginal or CS. I'd have to do my research and make an educated decision then because poor treatment and baby deaths sound horrible and no one should have to suffer through that!

P.S. DH said I smell like "unCliche B.O." 😂 but he said I smell very mild. So it could all just be in my head and I'm going crazy.

Happy 6am! Thought I'd join you with the early wake up. Actually I'm just really anxious and randomly woke up early.

I shall respond to the above once I'm fully awake. Just thought I'd share my chart because is this for real?! What even is a 36.81? Never seen that before in my life!

I've been smelling all sorts. I think I just smell different or stronger. DH even noticed and he says he's never smelt me before. Maybe I'm coming down with something? I don't think it would be a pregnancy symptom.

My CM is creamy but super stretchy like EWCM now. I'm not sure if I've gotten CM like that before. I know sticky CM can be stretchy but it was still quite smooth. Maybe it's at the point where it's transitioning to sticky like yours??

I don't think I want any symptoms because if AF arrives it'll suck even more! Plus I don't think I have anything that can't be associated with PMS. Sigh, I hate this cycle's randomly generated symptoms! Would you prefer to have symptoms??

I really hope we've implanted early due to our short luteal phase.

Oh can we??!! I've been soo tempted to POAS today! I've been so strong but I think I can afford to use up an IC tomorrow. I'm just really nervous about being disappointed though!

Haha no way do I get dressed properly for work. If I'm on camera doing a training session then I'll wear a polo shirt with my company's logo and PJ bottoms below. Do you go on camera regularly? I try to avoid it when I can.

The dessert box is still sat there! I don't think I can stomach anymore food tonight. I completely get what you mean about eating more sugar. I never really snacked but right now I have a bar of white chocolate on my bedside table. I feel bleugh! I'm not really a dessert person although I do like custard. If I had a choice, I think it would be ice cream. Salted caramel ice cream. But your Bailey's ice cream still sounds soooo good!

😱 Has a spider ever hidden under your pillow???

I hope so too! Haha that's such a cool observation. Is that why you'd prefer a C-section?

My nose is driving me crazy. I literally smell blood. It's a very strong metallic smell. (TMI) I've been sniffing everything! But literally nothing smells. My CM is odourless so it's not that. I've had my daily shower so it's not residual body odour (😂😂😂 I sound crazy). My clothes don't smell. But I know the smell is from me. I just don't know which part of me!! Every time I get up and sniff where I'm sat, the smell is there but then it fades. But it's not coming from down below and I'm not bleeding so I'm so confused!!!! I thought metallic taste was meant to be the symptom! Help! Does anything taste/smell weird to you?

Ooo your temps are still high and an implantation dip would be perfect! I am affirming to the universe that your temps will shoot up tomorrow! 😁 A lot of FF pregnancy charts don't even show a sustained higher temp! So really it probably doesn't even matter. But I'm still wishing for sky high temps.

If your CM isn't usual for you then any change is a good sign! Haha last night, DH and I shared a dessert box that's meant for 4 to 6 people. it had an assortment of dips and different desserts, like waffles, crepes, brownies, profiteroles and fruit. Needless to say, we didn't finish it! It was much bigger than expected, so I would love to lose my sugar appetite too but Bailey's ice cream sounds amazing! I wouldn't mind a glass of the actual drink right now, yum! What's your favourite type of dessert?

I'm so tempted to test earlier. But if it's a BFN, I'd be so disappointed. But I'll wait until 10dpo with you so we can share the news together. I'll definitely wait until I wake up naturally. Will you be testing as soon as you're awake at 6am? Also, I can't believe you wake up so early! You work from home!!! I literally roll out of bed straight into meetings 😂

The spider disappeared!! And I don't know where to!!! 😱

So, I reached out to the husband of my friend (husband was actually my friend first) because I was nervous to reach out to her and my intuition was right. There were complications with the birth. She ended up staying in hospital for a while and the baby is still in there but he's getting better. I feel terrible. I can't believe everything they've had to go through. It could have been worse if some midwives and doctors hadn't intervened when they did! My heart breaks just thinking about it. Childbirth is scary 😔

I'm trying not to have a heart attack but my temps jumped to 36.72 this morning!!! The highest they've ever been! I didn't think they'd go any higher! Omg!!!! I just hope they don't come crashing down!! Where are your temps today????

I'm glad to hear you can put a little faith in your new thermometer! Definitely fills you with a bit more confidence that your body is doing what it's supposed to! What time do you usually wake up to take your temps? Do you go back to sleep afterwards?

Any lost appetite this morning? Nothing has changed for me. CM is still creamy, I can't believe I haven't dried up! Usually this is a symptom of low progesterone but my temps seem to be doing ok. I usually get creamy CM during the luteal phase until around 4dpo but then I guess as my progesterone increases it gets stickier and dryer. Nipples still hurt too. What's your CM like today?

I bought so many ICs and the only way to stop myself from testing is going straight to the bathroom and peeing away all my FMU. I only have one FRER, hopefully it should do the job for us 🤞

I think it definitely is so hard to predict pregnancy from charts. Temps can go anywhere and do anything and mean nothing. It's so scary! But right now, it's the only thing giving us hope!! Let's hope we're part of that 12% then! 😂 Now I'm off to stalk FF charts!

In all this symptom madness, I forgot that with my short LP, AF could be due at any time, but luckily, no sign of her just yet.

Oh I love that!! Symptom spotting for 9 months will be so fun with a baby on the way. We'd talk about how sick we feel. How everything hurts. How grumpy we are at our other halves. I think it'd be great! Let's hope we graduate together!

I bought the dress off the rack so it was the only size they had and I was certain I could fit into it with a little less fat. Anyway, I've learnt my lesson and next time (vow renewal maybe) I'm making my own dress. Yeah, I've kept it. It's stuffed inside a cupboard. Not sure what to do with it. It cost me a lot! But yeah, bridal sizes do tend to be smaller so definitely don't feel bad if a size 8 doesn't fit.

I have a spider on the ceiling, literally above my head, and I don't know what to do... 🕷

I'm not sure why I'm not getting mumsnet notifications anymore 🤔

My temps are still zig-zagging about. Hehe, if my coverline gets any higher I won't have any temps above it! Omg I'm so impressed by your temp spike! Actually I'm jealous! I've never been as high as 36.7! This could be your lucky cycle! I'm actually feeling so hopeful for us, I'm trying hard not to get too excited!

My nipples are still sore! And my CM is still creamy! I've been so cold (even with electric blanket on full heat)! And I've gotten some left sided pelvic twinges! (I never feel anything on my left side)
So many new things to obsess about but I'm nervous in case it's just AF announcing her imminent arrival. Did you feel sick eating breakfast or you lost your appetite? But Eeeeeeeeee! It could be a sign! Although we're not meant to be symptom spotting I'm still excited! I really want this to be it for us.

Your chart looks sooo good! Fingers crossed tomorrow our temps will go higher. Actually I wouldn't mind seeing an implantation dip either, although it'll probably freak me out seeing a temp drop. Or maybe we'll go triphasic??!!

As it's almost Christmas, have you reconsidered how you'll announce your BFP to your DP? Omg if we get pregnant, would we start a new thread in the pregnancy board? What would we call it?

I would have preferred a dress that fit. It was apparently a size 10 and I worked so hard to get to a size 8 and it still didn't fit so I had to get it altered. I also would have liked a plain front with lots of back detail, maybe a more flowy A-line and straps - my boob folds kept showing on the side of the dress. When it comes to choosing your dress, definitely take your time and don't feel the need to settle for anything!

Thank you lovely! I really am enjoying sewing again. And it's all thanks to you! You really have inspired me 💕 You'll always be my far away cycle twin 😂 Oh I'd loooove to make baby outfits, if I have a son, it'll be bow ties that match my outfit and a girl we'd have matching dresses. I made a bib for a little cousin once too so I'd make loads of those. What sort of things do you imagine making for your little one?

Yeah vest tops do ride up but if you're wearing tights as well you can just tuck 'em into your tights 😎

Oh I've just checked and I've never gotten sore nipples in my luteal phase! I get them after AF.

Oh also, to answer your underlay question. You could line the dress with lining fabric - that's usually quite thin so probably won't add any warmth. Or maybe wear a vest top underneath?

Also, does your coverline change position every month? Mine have gone from 36.07 to 36.2 to 36.35 to 36.45.

Ah that's awesome! Your temps are going in the right direction. Last cycle at 8DPO our temps shot up so I wonder if that'll happen again. I have gotten sore nipples before during the luteal phase but it only lasted for a day. Maybe this is a sign my progesterone is higher as it's hurting for longer?? I'm getting sore boobs too, right on cue. Every 6DPO without fail 😅 All of my charts have been so unlike so I guess it's reassuring that yours are all different too 😂

My wedding dress was a strapless A-line. It had lovely embellishments but was very simple. I think when you see your dress you'll know! Both styles you like are lovely. I do wish I'd gone with another dress though.

Yeah almost everything that's cooked has a little spice in it 😁 I love spice but sometimes I do suffer for it. Why didn't I think of putting the plants in a box! 📦 I just imagine them falling over and soil going all over my boot 😂

Ah amazing! So glad you bought Codenames, it's such a fun game. Your family will love it! It can be so hilarious too. I think I want to buy it too now!

Hehe I did consider fashion design but I had such major "writer's block" that I couldn't think of anything new to create. I also get major sewing anxiety when I make clothes for people so I avoid doing it and only sew for myself. For Christmas I'm thinking a white one shoulder puffy sleeve playsuit. I rarely make trousers/shorts so I'm really going for it!

Since your front and back pattern pieces are the same, stitching them together should be fine. With the interfacing you'll need to iron that onto another piece of fabric to create the facing for the neckline. Definitely look at facing tutorials as you'll need to finish your neckline with one.

My friend hasn't been on any social media. I haven't even seen her online on WhatsApp.

Wooooo! We've made it to the implantation zone!! How are you feeling? My CM is still milky/creamy so I'm hoping that that's a good sign for my LP! I'm usually dry/sticky by now. And my nipples have been so sore since 2 DPO! Obviously, it's that random symptom generator at play 😂 Also, TMI, I can smell myself down there a lot! I don't think it's an infection as it doesn't smell bad, just strong 🙈

Oh wow, your temps really have stablised. They are like what mine were two cycles ago. Did they go any higher today? Mine is so zig-zaggy this cycle! And the coverline is much higher than usual so I feel like my temps could drop below it at any time!

Hehe, the wind did pass, thankfully, but I do struggle to tell the difference because I feel it quite low down in my lower abdomen. But going forward, any cramps I have, I'll assume it's gas! Yeah, my random symptom was metallic taste but I'm having none of that yet, how's your sense of smell? 😂

Did 'Say Yes to the Dress' inspire your wedding dress choice? I've seen a few episodes - I prefer it when it's full of divas, My choice of reality TV is married at first sight. I love a good social experiment! The Australians are crazier than the Americans - I was shocked! The UK version is so tame though, really boring. Have you ever seen it?

I'm growing tomatoes and chillis for my family. I need to figure out how I'm going to transport 24 plant pots in my car without making a mess. I once bought my male teenage cousin a mini portable speaker - he loved it. I bought the other one an electronics kit to build circuits - he didn't use it at all. Then I bought the youngest a minecraft lamp as he was obsessed with it back then. Now I just give them money. Hopefully that gives you some ideas of what/what not to buy.

I love that we're both keeping ourselves busy with the same hobby! I'm not a sweetheart neckline fan but thought I'd refine some old skills. It's awesome you mentioned summer as you've inspired me to do a wintery photoshoot wearing the outfit. Crop-top in the rain with a cute umbrella. Love it! I've done photoshoots in below freezing temperatures so I'll suck it up and photoshop out the goosebumps 😂 I've also almost finished the trousers. Just need to add a zip and hem! In the meantime, I'm going to start a new project and design and make an appropriate Christmas outfit.

Yes, I think definitely I'll ease myself back into sewing before reconsidering YouTube.

I love the dress pattern. That little peephole is so pretty. I really think you should have a go with the yoke. Could you share a pic of your pattern pieces so I can have a look? It would be easier for me to give suggestions then.

Haha! A* for creative thinking! Amazing stuff getting inspiration from looking at your shirts. What shirts have are darts and not a seam. A dart creates shape and helps garments curve around the body. The back darts in shirts help with following the curvature of the back. Actually there are some darts on my trouser pics - the little triangle things.

I haven't reached out to my friend who gave birth as I think maybe her and her DH will still be settling into life as new parents and I don't want to disturb them. But I also want to know if she's ok. Guess I'll give it another week.