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unCliche · 22/11/2020 11:31

Hey @ButterscotchBabe! Continuing our chat here 😁

I loooove that your temps did exactly what mine did too. So good that AF hasn't arrived at CD26!! Happy for you! When your temps increased last month, was it is to a gradual high or did it jump up again and then AF started? Because if this pattern is new, it could mean good news!

Ours definitely look like the beginning of a triphasic chart. My temps last month started dropping at 7DPO, so it still being high at 9DPO is such an achievement for me and no sign of AF either although my vulva feels AF'y in a weird way. My pulse and breathing rate have also continued to shoot up!! If temps don't tell you AF is coming, pulse rate defo will because it always starts falling a few days before AF for me.

I do suspect chemical but no BFP so can't confirm and nothing else changed that cycle so I can't explain it. Hormones were defo the reason I never took the pill, it plays such a big part in changing your reproductive cycle that of course it would have an affect on cycles after you come off them! 45 day cycles sound like a nightmare - especially when TTC too.

I do have a FRER! I'm always so scared to use it though. I always use rubbish ICs which probably aren't the best thing but I will use my FRER with you!

I like predicting what my temps will do with DH. What do you think will happen tomorrow? I think both our temps will go up again 😆

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unCliche · 04/02/2021 11:55

Yay! Go temps go! Glad it's progressing so well for you! Fingers crossed for a longer LP and highest temps ever! Just checked your overlay chart and these are your highest temps at 7DPO so far! How exciting! My temp did exactly what it did last cycle. At 5DPO it flattened and I have a flat temp today as well. It might start going up from tomorrow. I'm thinking secondary estrogen surge keeping my temps down?

Oooooo imagine if you have a little bean in there right now searching for the perfect spot to snuggle into!!! Hopefully over the next few days, your temps will shoot up 📈 I know charts can't show or predict pregnancy so early on but it'll be really interesting to see what happens.

I'm feeling a bit bleh this morning. Have a bit of a headache. I've been having them on and off over the last few days. Quite tired too so feeling a bit groggy. My leg is much better! I asked DH to give me a massage last night and he decided to unleash the strength of a thousand oxen onto it, nearly took my skin off - but it must have worked! I guess the pain was muscular 🤷‍♀️ symptom spotting isn't fun when there's a logical explanation 😢😂 I'll need to remember to do my progesterone test tomorrow too!

If I get a BFP this cycle, I want to buy this box and put the HPT inside it and give it to DH on Valentine's Day. It's such an overdone thing to do but I think Valentine's Day would be the least suspicious time to do it because people generally exchange gifts then (although the box shape might be a dead giveaway. I'll have to choose another shape.) Would you tell your DP straight away if you got a BFP or wait until Val's Day?

I remember when my mum was pregnant with my siblings. Excess saliva was one of her symptoms. She used to carry around a bottle to spit in 🤢 I really hope I don't get that!! Do you remember any of your mums symptoms through her pregnancies?

I could sleep on my side if I tried. I seem to go through cycles where my sleeping position changes. I used to sleep on my side quite a lot but for some reason, I prefer my front now and can't sleep on my side anymore. But those pregnancy pillow sound like a dream! I'll take two please!

I can't remember tbh, it couldn't have been too long after we started dating. The full story is now one of those stories you tell amongst friends and laugh your head off. I wish it was my most embarrassing story too, but I've had worse happen to me. What's the most embarrassing thing to ever happen to you?

The funny thing is, I have the biggest boobs in my family (so far, as my little cousin seems to be catching up) I think it's from the paternal side of me. My sisters and I have different dads and they're both flat chested. Is there a feature that all your family members have inherited? In my family, it's our lack of a bum and waist. We're not a very shapely family - we're all very boxy 📦😂

He has an exercise bike too! He doesn't use it. That's why I'm even more annoyed 😠 If we created an outdoor gym, that would be great because then the equipment would have a dedicated space. I want to buy this. We have a hot tub too so I'd be looking to put it inside something like this. Then at least we'd have a gym area for fitness and relaxation (obviously I won't be using the hot tub as I don't go inside water). Since you have a big garden, you could erect an outdoor building. It might be cold in winter without any insulation but a cool environment is great when you're working out ❄️🥶

😱😱 What! Sleep can affect fertility. That's crazy! The body has to be a perfect system or else, it seems, if something is out of balance, it can impact other areas of the body 😱 Gosh, there seems to be 1001 reasons for infertility and pinpointing it must be impossible. Can't believe 10 years of bad sleep caused this!! But she finally got her happily ever after. Hopefully my LP-induced insomnia is mostly caused by anxiety and not me waking up a million times in the night 😱

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ButterscotchBabe · 04/02/2021 09:43

Another rise this morning 😊, feeling positive about this cycle, not for a BFP but I reckon I'm gonna get a better luteal phase. The B vitamins must be working! How's your temp doing? I bet it's another good rise!

7DPO so implantation could have happened by now but I don't have any symptoms!

How are you feeling today? Have you still got the leg pain?

Oh no, as much as I want a baby, I'm really not looking forward to pregnancy 😂. Sciatica can be very uncomfortable, it's ranges from a dull ache to a strong ache, normally I'll take painkillers which could be a problem when pregnant. I already sleep on my side, infact I can only sleep on my side, so luckily that won't be a problem. Ah yes sleeping on your front won't be possible from the second trimester. I think you can get pregnancy pillows that allow you to partially lie on your front with a hole for the baby bump.

Oh dear lol, how long did it take you to tell him what had happened that night?

That's annoying having to pay more for bigger bras, it's not like you chose to have bigger boobs! I guess there's ups and downs to big and small boobs, having big boobs can make you feel more feminine and sexy. I think we all want what we haven't got 😂😂.

Haha good business thinking! I think to stop the belly folding you need quite low body fat, which is harder for women and not great for conceiving. No we don't have space in the house, each room is fairly full with furniture. We do have a large garden but that's not so helpful in the winter 😂. Oh no, yeh treadmills take up a lot of space. Could he get an indoor bike instead? That would use up less space and probably cheaper. Haha no DP doesn't do that, it's probably more me that buys things and then neglects them 😂😂.

It's so exciting creating a home and being your own you'll get to decorate and design it exactly how you want!

I thought you might be interested in the below post, it's about sleep issues causing infertility.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/infertility/4155169-Sleep-issues-Infertility

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unCliche · 03/02/2021 19:30

I am a bit surprised that with all the supplements I'm taking, I haven't messed up my cycle 😂 I haven't had any adverse effects either, thank goodness 😅Well, minus this leg cramp. Just checked side effects for agnus castus and b-complex and there's nothing there that would affect my nervous system. I still think the pain is ovary related as the cyst can indirectly affect other areas on the body.

I read that pregnancy can exacerbate sciatica so you may have to deal with it for 9 months. Sounds like a horrible thing to deal with for so long. How would you sleep? 😱Have you started practising sleeping on your side for pregnancy? I can only sleep on my front 😭😭

🙈🙈🙈 My bladder was full and I didn't make it to the toilet in time. Which in turn caused my anxiety that made me spew my guts 😂 Trust mine and DH's relationship to start with such dramatic flair. So very me 😂😂 Poor guy had no clue what had been happening with me.

I guess they've done that for support. Fat straps is something else I have to live with. So annoying! Plus bigger bras are expensive. I'd love to just walk into Primark and buy a £10 bra 🙁I've taken the label off now. I'm going to keep it but haven't really had many chances to wear it because of lockdown.

I actually bought some weights from the Czech Republic during the first lockdown because in the UK people were selling the lightest of weights for a fortune. I bought extra and sold them on eBay to capitalise on the crazy prices 😁😁Yeah, the time the pic was taken I was still working out. I never managed to stop my belly from folding when sitting down but it was the skinniest I'd been in ages. Now I'm chubby again. Do you have space at home to work out? DH wants to buy a treadmill and I'm so annoyed because I know he won't use it and it'll take up so much needed space. Is your DP the type to buy things just to neglect them?

I've tried to plan out the furniture on the floor plan website but I think I'll have to wait and see how things fit when we move our furniture in.

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ButterscotchBabe · 03/02/2021 18:11

Ah yes it could be the Agnus Castus, you'll have to see if your temps show more of a variation in your next cycle as well, unless of course you get a BFP!

Haha yes I have heard about pineapple but I don't like it so I won't be trying that one 😂.

Hmm that's strange with the location of the pain, if it was caused by your ovary I would expect you to still have pain in your lower stomach. If it's just in the legs that would lead me to think either a muscle injury, cramp or a nerve issue. There's lots of nerves and big arteries in the upper thigh so there could be a whole range of causes. Have you looked up side effects of Agnus Castus and B vitamins? Is there anything else you've changed recently?

I'm not sure why I get sciatic pain, I first noticed it a couple of years ago and it's slowly got worse. It maybe linked to my lower back pain but I'm not sure.

Gosh that sounds awful, howcome you wet yourself? Were you unable to hold it in? You'll have to tell me the full story one day!

The bra looks different on you, on the model the triangle straps are half way down her chest but on you they meet at the collarbone, so it doesn't have the same look. It seems like with a bigger cup size they've made the straps meet higher up. I see you've kept the label on, are you planning on returning it?

We do have some weights but they never get used 😂 last year I tried buying some kettle bells but everywhere was sold out. Your body pic looks great, I'm sure it wouldn't take too long to get back to that. You look quite slender and toned, were you exercising at the time? I have some weight loss pics from many years ago, I'll see if I can dig them out!

Oh no I hope you manage to get more than one bell pepper this year!

Yay not much longer left!! Have you already thought about where you want to place furniture?

unCliche · 03/02/2021 15:46

Yes, it's strange that my FP temps were a lot lower this cycle. Usually just before ovulation they are at about 36.4 and usually rise 0.4 throughout my LP but I've gone from 36.25 just before ovulation to 36.65 today which is a 0.4 rise in just 4 days. I'm impressed! Could be the agnus castus balancing out my hormones.

50mg of B6 is still enough to make a big difference and your temps really do look much higher than previous months so you may end up having your highest temps ever this cycle. I've literally heard about brazil nuts and selenium just this week, that's funny! I might give it a go, especially with some white chocolate, yum! Have you heard about pineapple also helping with implantation?

I think you were well within your right to be angry and angry doesn't have to be synonymous with aggressive, it's not like you punched her dog. You were probably caught by surprise having your personal space invaded and then made wet and muddy. Anger is 100% a valid response! 😡

I think I spoke to soon as my upper leg has been so achy for the whole day 😭 On the image, highlighted in red is sort of where the pain is. Around the inside and the back of my upper thigh. Nothing in my bum. I've never had it before and can't imagine why it would hurt all of a sudden. If I was in implantation territory that I could blame it on that but I've had it since 2dpo so it must be ovulation related. How come you get sciatic pain? Did you suffer an injury in the past?

Hahaha it's a long, crazy story. I was suffering from major indigestion as my food from earlier hadn't settled in my stomach. I'd also just wet myself and was sat there soaked through in my own urine so my anxiety was through the roof. I felt sick and anxious to my stomach and I could feel the sick coming so I asked DH for some water and while he was gone, I literally threw up and had to swallow it back down. Some went on my top though and I was so paranoid for the rest of the night. Can't believe how crazy the story is. I'd have to tell you it from the beginning 🙈

Jewellers are even worse. I think I was quoted £80 for the silver and a few hundred for the diamond 😂😂 no thanks.

It is a nice bra, but it looks weird having so much boob encased within it. It doesn't look sexy at all 😭 I'll send you a pic on insta. Do you ever buy nice lingerie?

It would be better to buy some workout equipment for your home so you could work out from home instead. I did a lot in the garden over the summer, which was fun. I'd love to create a home gym too at the new house. Do you have any weights at home? Better than going to a packed gym.

Ah that's good! Glad he wasn't annoyed with you. At least you have someone senior dealing with it now 👍

They're bell peppers. They take forever to ripen though. I only managed to grow a single pepper last year and from the seeds I salvaged, only two plants grew 😪

I think we could be finishing with the house before the month is up!! Eeeeeee!!! We booked a 2nd viewing for next week to start measuring spaces for furniture!!

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ButterscotchBabe · 03/02/2021 13:30

There's a big difference in your LP temps compared to your FP temps 😀 and I'm sure that line will get higher! Yep I'm still taking the B vitamins, I found the 100mg ones made my chest a bit jittery so I cut them in half and now I take 50mg every other day and the lower dose complex inbetween. Overall my temp looks generally higher than from previous cycles so it could well be due to the B6! I'm also eating 2/3 Brazil nuts each day, apparently the selenium is good for building womb lining so helps with implantation. They're a bit dry on their own so I melted some chocolate and made chocolate coated Brazil nuts 😊. Might be worth a try?

I've calmed down about the dog situation now but kept thinking of things I wish I'd said, I was so angry at the time, DP said I came across too aggressive 😕. I'm just fed up of inconsiderate dog owners.

The sciatic nerve starts in the bum, so normally the pain would start there and can radiate down the leg. I'm quite sensitive to sciatic pain, if DP spanks my bum (even lightly) it sets it off. If the pain is in your groin then it's probably not sciatica, sounds like it could be an issue with your ovary. Glad the pain has reduced, hopefully it's nothing serious.

I think my backache is due to sitting at a desk all day as I get it throughout my cycle. I try and lie down for a bit at lunchtime to give my back a break! Backache is quite uncomfortable, enjoy it whilst you don't have it, as you'll probably get it in your 3rd trimester. I'm dreading that stage of pregnancy as my back already aches without carrying a heavy lump on the front!

I wouldn't want proper nausea, just a little queasy! Yes vomiting and dry heaving is the worst. Oh no haha, howcome you threw up? Were you ill?

You could try selling the ring to a jewellers? Not much point at the moment but maybe in the future.

Ooh that bra is very sexy! I reckon it would look great with bigger boobs! I think it doesn't look as good on the girl in the picture, the inner straps that go over the top of the boob would definitely look better if there was more of the boob to sit on.

Yeh fasting is great for fast weight loss but it doesn't encourage muscle growth, so you just end up quite thin. To have a sexy toned body it's best to eat protein and work out! I have a soft body now which I don't like but it's difficult to do much in lockdown. Gyms are gonna be packed when they reopen!

Yeh I'm gathering some more evidence now, my boss responded fairly positively, which I was surprised about as normally I get the impression he's fed up of me bringing him problems 😂.

Overpaying on your mortgage will save you money in the long run, as the quicker you pay it back, the less interest you pay. I'm hoping we can get a less than 25 year mortgage, then we can perhaps change to working part time when we're older and go on lots of holidays! A lecturer could be a good role, don't teach kids, that will be too stressful 😂.

😍😍 That's exciting you've got new peppers growing! Are they spicey or the bell pepper type? I don't think I've seen growing peppers before!

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unCliche · 03/02/2021 11:10

Have you ever seen baby peppers? My plants have flowered and peppers are starting to grow 😍😍

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unCliche · 03/02/2021 11:05

Phew! Good you got a temp reading. You're in a crucial stage of your cycle now 😄 If you got a coverline, where would you think it would be? I think around 36.5. Would that be usual for you? Glad to see it rising too. Do you feel the B-Complex is helping or have you stopped taking it because of the chest pain?

Woooow! What an inconsiderate lady! Can't believe she didn't even have the decency to apologise. I completely get why you're annoyed! You must have been so cold, wet and muddy! 😡 I hope you feel better today and are a little less stressed?

I googled sciatica as I've seen it mentioned and apparently the pain goes right down into your leg and toes. Mine sort of radiates down from my groin area and where my upper and inner thigh meets my groin is where all my pain is concentrated! It was terrible last night, I struggled to sleep too 😭 So did some googling and the symptoms match up with an ovarian cyst 😭😭 It's on the side I ovulated from so maybe one of my cysts decided to be naughty 😭😭 Fortunately, it's not as bad this morning! But I still ended up waking up early, but not as early as you! can't believe how rubbish my sleep has been getting!!

Do you get backache from ovulation and AF? Or just bad posture from working at a desk all day? I wouldn't mind the backache, as long as it wasn't terrible and I could still go about my day. Oh no! How could you want nausea! I hate throwing up 🤮 I hate feeling like I'm about to throw up 🤮 I'd rather swallow my vomit than bring it all up 🤮🤮 I threw up on mine and DH's first date. He didn't know and he kissed me 😂😂🤮 Good times 😂😂😂

Aww my first engagement ring was a halo too. Absolutely gorgeous but it can be quite top heavy and rotate around a lot. Yeah, good idea not wearing it at home. It'd be even worse to lose a diamond! Especially when washing the dishes 😱 We considered selling the ring, I even put it on eBay and someone offered £1000 for it, but that's half of what was paid for it so it wasn't worth it.

I'm not a H anymore! I have loads of big bras that don't fit me 😭 Really nice ones too! I bought this bra a few months ago. But it doesn't look as nice on me as it does on the smaller girls 😭 Hehe I did consider lingerie modelling. Not sure how my friends, family and lovers would have felt about it though.

When I was trying to lose weight for my wedding, I did some intermittent fasting, not sure if worked or not as I got a personal trainer soon after but I don't think I could fast for a whole day. Sounds like very strong willpower! I'm guessing you didn't build any muscle? I really liked the strength that came with working out. I looked toned. Now I'm all soft again. Ugh I see my body from just a few months ago and I want it 🤤

Yeah that's true actually. I've read some posts on here where women are complaining that the nanny is always there. You'd probably need a mansion to feel like you can get away from them and have some family time.

😱 Is there someone else, other than your boss, that you can report them to? Just be careful it doesn't backfire on you. Maybe if you can collate some hard evidence so you have leverage.

She's been studying at the Open University for 6 years!!! That is some dedication. I haven't thought much about retirement too but I really like the prospect of doing something more relaxing in my old age. Maybe if I became a lecturer at a university, it wouldn't be too stressful. Handling adults must be better than handling children! DH definitely wants us to over pay on our mortgage each month, which will eat so much into my savings. I like savings 😭

I think waiting until 14DPO has never steered me wrong because AF always manages start before then. So I'll probably wait for a missed AF. Although FF says I can test at 12DPO, so maybe then.

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ButterscotchBabe · 03/02/2021 09:33

Managed to go back to sleep for a bit, temp has gone back up 😊

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ButterscotchBabe · 03/02/2021 05:04

Haven't slept well, I think it's because of the rubbish day I had yesterday. I was quite stressed from work so went out for a walk in a local national park at lunchtime. This off the lead dog ran at me and jumped up with its muddy paws, so my clothes were then muddy for the rest of the walk. I was livid with the woman for not having her out of control dog on a lead, her response "well he's a puppy, maybe you should walk somewhere else" 🤬🤬🤬

Haven't taken my temp yet, hoping if I can just lay still for the next few hours it will be okay to take at normal time! How's your leg? It sounds like it could be sciatica?

Omg 50 symptoms, that's a long list 😂. I don't mind light headedness, glad I didn't get backache as I already get that most days! Wouldn't mind a bit of nausea, not too much but just enough to help the diet along 😂😂.

Haha that was lucky, I was just imagining the suitcase on the conveyer belt about to go through the scan buzzing away 😂😂.

Aww your wedding ring sounds sleek and elegant 😊. My engagement ring is a halo design, so it's got a diamond in the middle with smaller diamonds around it. I don't wear it at home as I kept bashing it on things and one of the diamonds has dented inwards slightly 😕. Do you think you could sell your engagement ring? I don't think you need to keep it if you don't like it and it will never fit.

Yes that's true people will judge no matter your size! Omg your cup size is H 😲😲 wow mines a B or C depending what weight I am. You could have done some modelling with natural boobs that big, although it might not have helped your career 😂. Yeh I went on a calorie restricted diet and sometimes had fasting days, I wish I had the willpower now that I had back then!

Wouldn't be able to afford a live in nanny, also you'd need quite a big house otherwise it would feel like you don't have any alone time without the nanny there.

I have a very difficult customer which I've discovered maybe doing fraudulent activity, which is probably why he's getting shitty with me but I get the feeling my boss doesn't want to know, he'd rather I wasn't bringing him problems!

Yeh that must be difficult doing a major career change right when you should be at the height of your career. I guess if she can afford to then lockdown is a good time to do it. Haha I haven't really thought about retirement, too far away 😂. I'd like to retire early but it will depend if we've paid off our mortgage (that we don't have yet!). How about you?

Have you thought about when you might test? I'll probably do my usual, cheapie at 9DPO and FRER at 10DPO, that's if I make it to 10DPO without af!

unCliche · 02/02/2021 21:02

Meh, I doubt the "symptoms" mean anything. Could just be because my room is cold in the morning or just a general symptom of ovulation. It's the dead leg that is mostly annoying. How are you feeling about this cycle? You're almost in your implantation window!

Ah, that 5DPO dip could be a pattern for you now! Maybe something to do with the secondary estrogen surge in the middle of your LP. It would be better if it was an implantation dip though 😅 I'm feeling quite optimistic, shall we go for the random symptom randomiser this cycle?

So I'm going to generate a random number with google and whatever we get will correlate to a symptom from this list.

unCliche - #15 - Backaches!! 😂
ButterscotchBabe - #36 - Lightheadedness! 😁

I'll take that 😂😂

Haha no, thankfully. We were at the area where you dispose of liquids so I was able to switch the vibrator off and reposition it inside my suitcase. Phew! If it was during security, I think I'd die!

DH definitely plans to get me a new one for our 10 year wedding anniversary or vow renewal. I don't mind so much not having an engagement ring as I'm very simple when it comes to jewelry. My wedding band is a skinny solid white gold and I like how understated it is. I don't notice it half the time. What's your engagement ring like?

I don't know, I feel like, if you're skinny, people will comment. If you're chubby, people will comment. I felt ok, I suppose. It wasn't until my early 20s that I started putting on weight. My cup size went from C > DD > E > FF > GG > H. At some points I was still quite skinny so I looked very top heavy and hated it! Now I'm a bit chubbier so it doesn't look as bad. Plus I lost some boob with my weight loss which was a welcome change! Wooow how did you manage to lose the weight at 18? Did you go on a diet? It's probably easier when you're younger. Now our slow metabolism makes everything but gaining weight harder.

I didn't know they existed either. It was such an amazing thing to see. They look so cool.

That's the problem with lockdown. Loads of people will rush to book holidays that there won't be any off-peak times during the year.

Haha I think I've just about done a little more than the bare minimum. I have some high flying peers in my industry. But I'm comfortable with where I am for now. Would you consider getting a live-in nanny/au pair to make things easier?

Oh sounds like a stressful day at work. Hopefully it's nothing too serious? Sucks you have to work late today.

My day was chill. Helped a friend out this evening with a mentoring session for a lady who was trying to get into engineering. I think she's a bit older than me but I think she's very brave pursuing a major career change. I wouldn't change careers complete now but I like teaching so might consider going into that just before retirement. Do you have a retirement plan?

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ButterscotchBabe · 02/02/2021 19:41

Wahey! Look at that temp rise 🤩 things are looking up 😀🤞. That's interesting you're having all those symptoms, cold like symptoms are definitely a sign of pregnancy. I just want to fast forward a week so we can find out!!

My temp did go down a bit this morning, well remembered that it went down last cycle at 5DPO! Hoping to see a good rise tomorrow! Told you you'd want that low temp back in your chart 😉

Omg that must have been embarrassing at the airport! Did the security staff notice it was vibrating? 😂😂

Haha yeh A&E staff have probably seen many shocking and funny things, like people getting things stuck up their bum 😂😂. We don't tend to do foreplay much, most of DTD is baby making, so we get to the main event!

That's funny your sister knew what had happened but didn't say anything for years 😂. Yep I might have to put those panties on soon 😉.

Oh no that's really sad about your engagement ring ☹️, maybe your DH will get you another one on a future anniversary or maybe if you renew your vows. Did you get a sparkly wedding ring or a solid band? Yeh good point, I may look into getting my engagement ring resized when things go back to normal.

How did you feel being really thin as a teenager? What age did your boobs grow? Just wondering if you were really thin with big boobs 😂. My body was kinda average, not too thin, not too fat. I gained a bit of weight at 16, to about a size 12 but then lost it at 18 when I was a size 6-8.

Black squirrel's 😲 I didn't know they existed! That's cool!

Yeh if restrictions allow they will go ahead with the holiday, so we'll just have to way up the risks and costs nearer the time. Hopefully the holiday won't go ahead and they'll get their money back. Everyone's gonna want a holiday after this is over so I think prices will probably go up!

You've done amazing already in your career, you don't need to climb any higher. It's great you've got to a position where you've got a well paid job that you enjoy. Hmmm I think working from home with kids could be quite difficult, it would depend how old they were and if they went to school or nursery.

Haven't had a chance to make any amendments on the pattern yet, been so busy today. Got a high workload and angry customers chasing me so I'm gonna have to go back to work now ☹️.

How's your day been?

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unCliche · 02/02/2021 10:43

I wish I wasn't 3DPO, then the symptoms would seem less stupid. Woke up again to sneezing, sniffles and a drippy nose 🤧 after struggling to sleep last night once again. My left leg (and arm???) was really crampy, the cramp felt like it was radiating down from my hips into my whole leg. So annoying. Also, I'm not usually anxious around this time in my cycle but my heart has been hammering away for some reason. This is going to be a looong TWW. How are you at 5DPO? Any symptoms yet?

I got my crosshairs today. A bit surprised that my temp went up by 0.2 since it usually rises much slower than that. Not too happy that my coverline is at 36.3. It makes my FP temps look static. Might have to bring back that random drop to add to some character to my chart. I remember last cycle you got a dip at 5DPO, anything similar happen today?

I wouldn't know how to face my parents if they ever saw my sex toys. In my culture, I'm not sure it's something that's accepted, so they might be very shocked. But I can't believe you threw away your toys! I guess fingers work just as well 😏 but I've never actually been able to get my fingers to work down there 🤔 I've taken my vibrator on holiday with me before. I still remember, DH and I were just about to enter security and my whole suitcase started buzzing. I was so paranoid it would start buzzing in the plane itself, thankfully it didn't 😅

I feel like A&E staff have probably seen it all! You'd probably just be another girl with a vibrator stuck up herself and they wouldn't even blink twice. Treating you would probably be a welcome respite to some of the drunkards they probably have to deal with. But definitely the awkward bit would be you buzzing in the waiting room! 😂😂😂 I'd be so embarrassed too. So does that mean no more foreplay? (Usually I like to just skip to the good bit)

My sister must have been 13/14 at the time. It's only in recent times that she's mentioned it 😂😂 I think you should put on those panties! It'll be a nice change to the monotony that's lockdown. Plus, spicing things up is always fun. Get his blood flowing. Maybe tease him a bit - he can look but he can't touch. 😉

Haha yeah, DH asked a few times. It wasn't ever a serious proposal, like getting on one knee. He just wanted to find out if I was ready to marry him yet and the answer was always no - until it was yes! The ring is about 5 sizes too big for me and there are limits to how many sizes down a ring can go. The jeweller measured my finger and everything and then gave me something that didn't fit and I didn't ask for. But the fit makes no difference to me because I won't ever like the ring. And it's too late to get our money back. We bought it in Greece from someone DH knew and the guy just took the piss and offloaded a random ring onto us. We couldn't be bothered with the drama so kept it. Now it's sat in my jewellery box, unloved, unwanted and unlooked-at.

Haha even if your fingers do swell you could just take it off and wear it on a chain until after your pregnancy. Plus you're not going to be pregnant forever, so you might as well have something that fits! What's 9 months x2 compared to the rest of your life?

I think I was just really skinny. Like literally stick thin. My mum even accused me of bulimia once 🤷‍♀️ But now I have a healthy body for my age. What did you look like as a teenager?

The Google campus was great. It was huge. The bikes were free, so you could just grab one and cycle around. It was on a weekend, so quite empty but it was a lovely experience. I saw black squirrels too!

I think there must be some covid guarantees in place where getting money back is possible. But I really do hope they don't find a way to fleece them. £1200 is a lot of money to lose! Would you family still go if they could, despite covid?

If I'm honest, I have no idea what the best approach is. The good thing is I'm not looking to climb the career ladder, I'm quite happy with where I am longterm. So as long as I can maintain my current position and salary then it might work. Maybe once they start school full time, I can then focus on my career a bit more and move on to the next stage. Working from home will help a lot even though it'll be harder with kids! Would you work from home with kids??

Did you manage to refine your pattern?

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ButterscotchBabe · 01/02/2021 19:33

😂😂 you must be with child, it's the only explanation! I have seen lots of people saying they had cold like symptoms in the TWW before their BFP, so it could well be! I don't have any symptoms yet but like you I've had cycles with lots of symptoms and cycles with none, neither have ended with BFP!

We don't have any toys, that little vibrator thing was the only one we had and after that terrifying incident we threw it out and haven't bought anymore since! Haha I think a sibling seeing toys would be a bit embarrassing but it would be horrendous if a parent saw it 😱😱. When I left my ex I moved in with my Mum whilst looking for a flat, before moving in I threw away my toys as I couldn't bare the risk of her finding them!

Big load 😂😂 haha well the only reasonable conclusion is your baby hungry vagina has sucked it all up!

"Gave birth to your vibrator" Hahahaha 😂😂😂😂 Omg that's hilarious 😂😂. Unfortunately it was terrifying at the time, I just had visions of DP and I sat in the A&E waiting room with everyone wondering where the vibrating noise was coming from!! 🤦😂😂.

Oh no hahaha! How old was she at the time? Did she say anything to you? I bought DP some crotchless pants (for me to wear!) a couple of years ago but they've just lived in his draw! Maybe I could secretly put them on, on Valentine's Day 😉.

Haha we've become menstrual cycle experts! It's nice to have a few symptoms to monitor to guage a picture of what's going on. Yes you're probably right, it's probably just left over EWCM that's slowly made its way down!

Aww that's lovely you got your perfect proposal but a shame it wasn't with your DH. Your DH asked you a few times? Did you say no first time?! You could get the ring resized or get a ring resizer from Amazon. My ring is too big so I have to wear a ring resizer with it, it's like a rubbery spiral thing that sits on the inside of the ring. Would you like the ring more if it fit properly? Or could you ask the jeweller for your money back and choose a different one? DP doesn't want me to get the ring permanently resized, he seems to think my fingers are gonna swell when pregnant, don't know how big he thinks I'm gonna get?!

Did you suffer from anorexia or were you naturally very thin? Boobs that touch your knees, haha oh dear!

Oooh you went to the Google campus that's cool! What was it like? Wine tour also sounds good, I would have liked that 😂. There were some cheaper hotels nearby but the place my Dad and brother have booked is all inclusive so they'll spend a lot of their time in that one hotel. I'm hoping if it gets cancelled due to covid they'll get their money back and rebook somewhere else cheaper.

I saw some other kids playing around with skateboards so I thought I'd have a go. My parents got me a small one but I regularly fell off so gave up!

I think when the kids are young I will have to devote myself to them, I'm not expecting to have the same life as pre kids. However when they're teenagers and become more independent then I'll be able to spend more time on me and DP. That's roughly the plan but I think it will largely depend on what the kids are like. What do you think the best approach is?

Ah I get it now, thanks for the image! I watched your sleeves video! You make it look so easy 😂 I'll give it a go and try and make my own sleeve 😱.

unCliche · 01/02/2021 15:46

Last night, my uterus and vagina felt so uncomfortable and I really struggled to sleep. So since I'm allowed to symptom spot, I'm going to get right to it! 😂 Have you ever heard of Early Pregnancy Factor? Apparently it's a protein that gets released shortly after sperm meets egg and it acts as an immunosuppressant so the body doesn't reject the embryo. I was sneezing last night as well as this morning when I woke up 😱 so I must have a suppressed immune system! I was also super bloated yesterday, have mild cramping and my limbs have been so achy. I think those symptoms are definitely conclusive and I must be with child 😂😂 To be fair, I've had cycles where I felt nothing and cycles where I've felt everything and it makes no difference as I'm never pregnant so I'm not expecting much this cycle. How are you feeling?? Any symptoms yet?

Haha do you remember to hide your toys too? My friend, who's male, told me he saw a rampant rabbit on his sisters bedside table and felt so awkward 😂😂 I usually have my vibrator lying around on my table (in fact I just turned my head to look at it right now) and I know there's going to be a day I forget to put it away and someone will see it! Oh well!

🕵️‍♀️🕵️‍♀️🕵️‍♀️ DH insists that it was a big load because he can apparently feel it as it comes out. I've inspected my bed - nothing. Inspected the crusty tissue I used to plug the sperm in - not much on there. Inspected my vagina at 0DPO - sufficiently coated with semen. I think the result of my investigation is - INCONCLUSIVE. But judging from all my symptoms, it must have all been gobbled up by my thirsty vagina and made a baby🍴

Hahaha 😂😂 Omg! All I can see in my head is my vagina's sucking mechanism doing a good job of sucking a drink up through a straw 😂😂😂 Hahaa you gave birth to your vibrator! That's brilliant! 😂 I haven't experienced anything like that. I remember when I was with my ex, I really wanted to be a bit kinky with him. I wore a cheap black thong and these cute net body stockings with big holes all over it and a hole in the crotch area. We were kissing and everything and was ready for the main event but I couldn't get the thong off because I had the body stocking over the top of it. So to add to the kinkyness, I got a pair of scissors and cut the thong away! The next day my little sister found my body stockings and realised what all the noise was about it 😂😂

I'm glad that I've learnt enough about my body to confirm ovulation without needing to chart BBT. Creamy CM is always immediate for me once ovulation is over. I'm really excited that it's thicker! It's good you have it too as that probably confirms ovulation for you as well! Since you don't check CM at the cervix, your EWCM could be left over from your fertile window maybe?

I love your proposal story! But when men plan such a big thing around it, it becomes so obvious a proposal is coming, so I'm not surprised you suspected! It still must have been a nice surprise on the 15th. If I was a guy, I'd probably propose in a similar way. Plan something big and extravagant and make the woman work herself up into a frenzy only to be disappointed that nothing happened 😂😂😂 Then I'll propose the day after! Haha!!

My dream proposal is nice and intimate. Casually chilling watching TV and having the question nonchalantly asked with a ring appearing like no-big-deal. And that's what I got! Except it was with my ex. It was the perfect proposal. He wanted to do it on New Years Day but couldn't wait, so he went upstairs and got himself dressed while I looked a hot mess. He presented me with a leather bookmark (so perfect!) that said "Will you marry me?" and my dream ring 😭😭 I broke off the engagement and when I was ready to be engaged again, I didn't want another proposal. So, although DH asked me a few times, we didn't start wedding planning until I felt ready.
I do have a ring but I don't wear it because I don't like it and it's too big for me. It's a long story and not DH's fault because we went together to choose the ring but the jeweller F'd it up!

Yeah, lots of skinny people get stretch marks! Even when I was borderline anorexic as a teenager I still had stretch marks around my thighs. They're normal. But with my boobs the size they are, strangely enough, I don't really have any on them. I think having big boobs that get shrivelled up from breastfeeding is worse! They'd become loose, saggy bags and touch your knees! 😂 I think yours would be better than mine. We'd have to compare in a few years time 😂😂

No, I didn't get to do much sightseeing. I was mostly in training but I was so jet lagged anyway that I didn't care to see much of San Francisco. DH went around by himself and really enjoyed it. I did cycle around the huge Google campus. That was fun. We also went to Napa Valley and did a wine tour. DH was in his element, of course. I didn't care for it but went to keep him company. Do you have to book the same accommodation as your family? Could you find somewhere close by but cheaper? £2400 total really is a lot. Even I'd hesitate to pay that.

Ha! No! The skateboard was mostly to look cool 😂😂 Couldn't ride it then and can't ride it now. What made you take up skateboarding? It's quite a niche thing to be into. I had roller skates too but was pretty rubbish. I agree. More quality time than gifts. I was actually reading a post on here where a woman felt that all she'd been reduced to is a mother. That before kids, she had a great social life, great body, great education, great job and threw it all away to be just a mother and now I'm worried women really can't have it all. I want to be present for my kids but I don't want to lose myself in motherhood. Have you thought about how you'd balance it all?

Fake it until you make it. Practice, practice, practice. That's all you can do. I felt so undeserving of my role because I knew I wasn't good enough but here I am, doing alright at it. Self doubt is normal but as long as you appear confident, then that's what people will see. They won't hear the voices in your head. I think go for it. You might surprise yourself. Plus not everyone wants to recruit an egomaniac. You might be the perfect fit for someone.

Good luck to your DP with the interview. Temporary is better than nothing and looks really good on a CV that initiative was taken to find work during this very difficult time.

Yeah, that's usually my logic when cutting my fabric pieces. You can make something bigger but not smaller. Hopefully it works out! Also, in the image, can you see how the neckline meets the centre front at 90 degrees? Line D is 90 degrees to the centre front and the neckline follows line D and stops at 90 degrees.

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ButterscotchBabe · 01/02/2021 14:29

Nice rises for us both this morning 😊

Hmm maybe you were drifting in and out of sleep? Sometimes I do that, it feels like I've been awake all night but if I check the time, I can see chunks of time have passed when I must of been asleep. It's never too early to start symptom spotting 😂😂

Haha yeh I have a toilet roll that permanently lives on my bedside table, back when we were allowed visitors I used to have to remember to hide it! We live in a bungalow so it's much easier for guests to end up wandering into our bedroom. Lol I imagine some of it has probably come out and maybe there wasn't much in that ejaculate, although doesn't look like you've had too much sex 🤔.

Deep vag 😂😂😂 I think it's more that my fingers are short as I have quite small hands. For you it's probably due to long fingers! The vagina has a sucking mechanism, so if you put the tampon high up and don't keep the string out, it can be difficult to remove as it's being 'sucked' up there. I find if I put a tampon high up, I have to properly tug on the string to get it out! This mechanism is probably to ensure sperm get pulled in the right direction.

I remember years ago DP and I were doing foreplay with a small, vibrating curved shape thing (it wasn't the shape of a normal vibrator). He was putting it inside me but my vagina sucked it up and he no longer had hold of it. So I had this vibrating thing stuck inside me, I was terrified I was gonna have to go to A&E to get it out, that would be mortifying 😱😱😱. After failing to get it out with my fingers, I sat on the loo and pretended to do a poo and luckily that pushed it out!! I was sooo relieved 😂😂. Do you have any funny/embarrassing sex stories?

CM has gone creamy today, lotion like, that's great you've got it too and straight after ovulation! I had a tiny bit of EWCM yesterday, bit strange I've had quite a bit of it after ovulation this cycle.

I was expecting the proposal as he took us to this lovely hotel, where they had a dinner and dance evening on for Valentine's Day. So I was quite surprised when he didn't ask, I was even a little annoyed wondering why he'd spent lots of money on this night if he wasn't going to propose 😂😂. He ended up proposing the next evening in our bedroom, he told me he tried to propose at the hotel but there wasn't the right moment as it was quite busy and loud 😂. How come you didn't want a proposal? Did he give you an engagement ring?

You could do a baking or cake decorating competition with a valentine's theme? I'm not sure, I probably can personalise it as they're being hand made, I'll have to ask!

My body is very different to my Mum's and I have a different skin type. She didn't get stretch marks which she puts down to keeping herself thin. However this is rubbish because I already have stretch marks and a pregnant belly stretches much more than any other part of you. She's just lucky that her skin type doesn't get them. So I probably have my Dad's skin but you might get lucky and take after your Mum. Haha as you're a booby girl already they might be okay after breast feeding, as mine are already like fried eggs they'll be destroyed afterwards 😂😭.

£1200pp for 7 nights! Yep the most we've ever paid for 7 nights is £600pp, that's why I'm a bit annoyed. Also because my youngest brother is in school they can only go during school holidays which hikes up the price but there are cheaper options. It doesn't help that my second brother who is on a high wage, happily booked it, makes it look like I'm being tight! Did you manage to do much sight seeing in the US?

Ooh you did skateboarding, were you good at it? I briefly tried it as a kid but quickly gave up 😂. Yes that's true, it's definitely the time and people that make the best memories, I can't remember many of the presents I got. I think rather than showering my kids with gifts, we'll try and do more activities together, things they'll hopefully remember.

Haha I'm sure you're worth the money 😊. I'm not very confident, I hate interviews, I really struggle to talk positively about myself. So unfortunately going for something above my ability won't work but good suggestion!

That would be cool to have your own company but yeh whilst having babies it's probably best to be employed so you've got the job security and maternity pay. DP has considered it but I don't know if his skills are advanced enough. He's still not heard back from the jobs he's applied for but he's got an interview this afternoon with the local council for some temporary covid work.

Once you have kids you'll need a whole room for crafts, I can imagine them being creative and wanting to be like you!

Still struggling to visualise what you mean about the neck 😕. I just know with the clothes I've made so far with my own patterns, the neck has been too wide, my bra straps were visible, so I've just tried to narrow it. If I make it too small at least I can cut more material away, whereas if I cut too wide then I'm stuffed. Ah cool I'll have a look for your video on sleeves!

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unCliche · 01/02/2021 10:36

Such a strange, strange night. According to my fertility bracelet, I had almost 7 hours sleep but it feels to me like I'd been awake for basically the whole night. So weird. Maybe I woke up a few times in the night and it felt like I hadn't slept yet. Is it too early to start symptom spotting? 😁

😂😂😂 Two and a half men was funny! Gosh, I don't want to know what would show up if they shone a UV light in our bedroom. I'd like to think we're careful, but you never know 🙈 I have wipes in my bedside table to take care of leakages. I'm still trying to crack the curious case of the missing semen 🕵️‍♀️ Are you generally prepared for the messes of DTD?

Ah, I think I have a low cervix because I can always feel it, even when it's up very high. But then again, I have long fingers. My cousin got a tampon stuck up there once and it made me wonder how deep a vagina can actually go and maybe mine just isn't that deep. So, you could just have a deep vag! 😂 I tend to get LOADS of EWCM at my cervix opening but nothing ever shows up on my underwear 🤔

Actually, I checked my CM yesterday and it had gone creamy, so ovulation has pretty much been confirmed. The thing I noticed was that it was thicker than what it would usually be at 1DPO. I was expecting the watery milky CM but I got the thicker lotiony one, which doesn't happen until around 4DPO, so maybe progesterone is higher this cycle. I hope so anyway!! What's your CM like now?

My temp is starting its ascent. Yay! How are yours going? Up, up, up?

Haha awww!! What was the proposal like? Were you expecting it? I guess not doing it on the 14th meant you wouldn't suspect anything special was happening. 14th is always a suspicious day for surprises 😂 That's a good question about the anniversary. I'm not sure. We'll definitely count our first year wedding anniversary as one and maybe celebrate that, as that's a bigger milestone than becoming BF and GF. Maybe we'll have a drink to commemorate our 3 years as a couple. We never celebrated our getting engaged anniversary, however I didn't want a proposal so we don't even have a date for it, plus we were married in less than 9 months of being "engaged".

Currently no plans for Vals day. I'd like to plan something but like you said, there's nothing that we can really do. Maybe him and I can cook or bake together. But we spend so much time with each other everyday that the 14th will just be like any other day in lockdown 🤷‍♀️ I think the chocolate selection is a meaningful idea. Can you get it personalised?

I wonder if our pregnancy bodies will be hereditary. My mum doesn't have stretch marks from being pregnant - I hope I take after her. Your body might surprise you and you might not get any stretch marks at all. You can use oils that'll help lessen the appearance if you do. Haha a boob job to fill my empty, dried out sacks? It depends on how self conscious I feel about it at the time. 😂😂

£1200pp?????????? For how many nights? That is a lot! £1200 total is probably how much DH and I would have chosen to spend on our honeymoon. For a general holiday with cheap flights, I think £600 total would be fine for us. We haven't travelled very far yet together. Although, when we went to the US work paid for my flights/hotel and I treated him to his flights, which were £300. The hotel cost like £2000 for two weeks but since that was covered by work I guess we didn't really think about a budget. I think if we had paid for it ourselves, we'd defo choose a cheaper hotel and try and budget around £1500 total for one week, including flights and hotel.

I think my fondest childhood memories are with my dad too. He used to take me and my sisters out and about. We'd go to the park and have family days out riding our bikes or scooters or skateboards. It was nice. It's funny the things we remember fondly. It's always the little things, the times the people we love were there. I just hope that I can be as present for my kids as well. It's nice you had that time to spend with your dad and he got his big kid out too.

Haha aww, I like how the quarantine poster has very simple things on there, like 'visit a coffee shop'. Things that should be a normal part of reality and now we have to rediscover them again. I might faint the first time I set foot in a restaurant. I'll be dazzled and dazed by such a new environment. 😁 I can't wait though! The poster is a good idea 👍

Could you not apply for something you're under qualified for? That's what I did. I almost had a heart attack at my salary and felt bad that they were paying me too much. That's what you need - an overpaying, overqualified job. The imposter syndrome is the best part of it 😂 Go in there with the confidence of a bull and get your money!

Yeah, I could definitely become a contractor. In the future DH and I might combine our skills to create our own contracting company. I'm in networks, he's in data so we'll have all bases covered with our range of knowledge. For now, the security of a job while buying a house and TTC is the best thing for us. Has your DP considered contracting? It might help him get a job faster, at least until he finds something permanent. How's he doing being out of work? Any news from the company's he's applied to?

Haha yeah! Although I wouldn't use the whole room for crafts. It'll be a joint guest room and maybe an office too. But I don't know yet. We have a sofa bed, so that'll have to go somewhere.

So, at the centre front, the start of the neckline needs to meet the centre front at 90 degrees. If you draw the neckline at another angle, when the neckline of the garment comes together at the centre front, it won't be straight. The neck hole might be fine, although it's difficult to say without knowing how thick your neck is. Have you measured around your neck? The sleeve shape is almost there but it needs some refinement. I have a video on drafting sleeves but you could look online for tutorials on sleeves. They're quite difficult to trace from garments as the shape of the cap is a strange one.

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ButterscotchBabe · 31/01/2021 19:39

Welcome to the TWW 😊 and the start of crazy symptom spotting 😂

Your comment of semen on the bed reminded me of an episode of Two and a Half Men when Charlie Sheen was the main character, someone died in his bedroom and the police used an ultraviolet light and saw semen splattered all over the bed, the walls and the ceiling 😂😂.

I only check for CM by wiping, I can't feel my cervix, I think because I'm short my fingers are too small 😂😂. Normally enough comes out to see what's going on. That's annoying if nothing much comes out but I think you can relax knowing the CM is up where it needs to be. A good time to check is after DTD aslong as you can tell the difference between semen and EWCM.

That would be amazing to become homeowners and get a BFP for Valentine's Day! DP proposed to me on 15th Feb last year, it was supposed to be on Valentine's Day but things didn't go to plan 😂. Which day do you count as your anniversary, is it your wedding day? At the moment we use the day we became 'boyfriend and girlfriend' as our anniversary but now we also have an engagement anniversary! No plans for Valentine's Day yet, I saw on Facebook a local cake baker was doing a valentine's chocolate selection, which I'm considering getting. How about you, do you have any plans? It's difficult with lockdown as there's not much you can do!

I think I will end up with massive stretch marks, I already have stretch marks on my boobs and thighs and they're not even that big! I unfortunately seem to have the type of skin that gets stretch marks easily. So with a massive belly there's no way I'll avoid them. Would you consider getting a boob job after finishing having children? I might do, depends how saggy the boobs are 😂.

I'm not fussed about the destination, it's more the choice of hotel, he picked somewhere that's £1200pp all inclusive, that's double what DP and I are used to paying for a holiday. He knows we're trying to save for house deposit, he doesn't know that we might also have to pay for fertility treatment, although I may have to bring that up if he questions why we can't afford it. What would you consider a reasonable amount to spend on a holiday?

Yes I did love Disneyland but I was only 6 so don't remember much of it, I want to go to Disneyland Paris and relive that memory 😍😍. Definately, having kids gives you an excuse to be a kid again! I remember throughout our childhood my Dad took me and my brothers to a theme park and we used to play 'it' in the indoor play area (it was a big complex with slides, spinning circles, balls, places to hide), he played too and it was one of the most fun things we did together. What are your best childhood memories?

I don't have a bucket list but I have a poster of things to do when lockdown ends, so that is kind of a bucket list! firebox.com/products/100-things-to-do-after-quarantine-scratch-poster

Yes I did notice MI5 had a finance opportunity, which I did consider applying for but its low paid because you're training and at the moment we can't afford to take a pay cut, especially as DP is now unemployed. I will keep an eye out though as I'd love to work for MI5!

Using your engineering and I.T skills, could you be a private contractor? Or maybe start your own company? Obviously right now that's not a good idea but maybe in the future.

My grandmother's brother and his family moved there about 30 years ago and they've loved it!

That sounds great making the biggest room the craft room! That would be so cool having a room just for crafts 😀. I'm not sure what you mean about the neckline, I was wondering if maybe I should make it wider? My previous patterns have been too wide around the neck, so I've purposely made this one narrower. For the sleeves I just drew round an existing top 😂 I don't know how else to make sleeves.

unCliche · 31/01/2021 16:57

Oops I didn't attach my chart.

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unCliche · 31/01/2021 16:57

Oh poo! So maybe alcohol does have a big impact on temps. Annoying! Maybe drinking a little earlier in the evening would have less of an impact than drinking close to bedtime. My temps are ok, they're following their usual pattern with a tiny ovulation dip and then going back up slightly. Things should start rising gradually now.

Haha my body is hungry for those spermies! I generally wear panty liners but nothing has dripped out onto them! 😢 There's probably a patch of semen on my bed somewhere that I didn't notice 😂 How do you check for CM? Do you poke around at your cervix?

Yeah, our solicitor knows when our tenancy is up. At least they're aware they have a tight deadline so I hope they will speed things up! fingers crossed we'll be homeowners in the next two weeks!

Actually it's valentine's day in 2 weeks. Our AFs are due around valentine's day! It would be great to have a BFP and a new home. Do you have any plans for the 14th?

I have no idea how viagra works but I imagine it would be hormonal. At least the female version must be hormonal.

Hehe I sometimes have to get DH to pull the hair out for me. It's so hard to see sometimes! I have special tweezers for them that has a really good grip 😂 I think 25 was the turning point for my body. Now it'll probably only go downhill from here 😅 After childbirth, our bodies will never be the same again either! I think I'm least looking forward to the saggy boobs. What body change would you really like to avoid from pregnancy?

Oh that's cute! That's he'd want to celebrate his big 5-0 with your big 3-0 but yeah, he definitely should have consulted you on the destination. Where would you have rather gone?

Yeah, I've only been to Disneyland Paris as a kid. The Florida one must have been amazing?? There are so many things I'll do and use kids as an excuse for, for sure! I think having little ones will really bring out the child in us - it's going to be great! I'm not sure there's anything I'd wish to do before I'm 30, I think I like how boring my life is. Do you have a bucket list for yourself?

MI5 are recruiting! Go for it 😁 It'll probably more interesting than working in the police too. My dream as a child was to be a journalist or an author but actually in my old age, I'd love to be an entrepreneur. I have a few things that I've done but none has made me rich. Working in IT isn't too bad anyway so I'm happy with how things have turned out career wise.

No, I've never been to Canada, but I would love to. Did your family move there recently? How do they find it?

I'm thinking of using the biggest room as my craft room. There's already a desk by the window, which is quite large and would be perfect for me. But maybe one day, I could build a dedicated crafts room in the garden or something. Your pattern looks cool but make sure the neckline starts at 90 degrees from the centre front and centre back. How did you draft the sleeves?

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ButterscotchBabe · 31/01/2021 14:18

Just done the jacket pattern, I'm gonna do the front as a whole piece so both sides are even, then I'll cut it down the middle. Also I'm doing the sleeves as full length rather than 3/4.

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ButterscotchBabe · 31/01/2021 13:14

Unfortunately yesterday's rise was artificial due to alcohol drunk the previous night, it's gone down this morning as expected. Still looking okay though, hopefully it will rise further in the next few days. It's annoying I have to be really careful not to drink too much in the luteal phase, boring! How's your temp doing? Has it gone up confirming ovulation?

"My carnivorous body probably consumed it all' 😂😂😂 It must all come out eventually as the vagina is self cleaning. I sometimes put a pad in my pants as it's really annoying when it slowly drips out and I'm trying to get on with things 😂. I often see EWCM after DTD, I think it's because the willy gets up high enough to poke it around and bring it down! If you saw some then you were definitely fertile 😊.

Worse case scenario you'd have to put all your stuff in storage and stay in a hotel but fingers crossed that won't happen. Does your solicitor know the last date you have to be out? Why does it take so long for them to agree a move date?

Haha you wouldn't explode 😂 but if you're happy with the way things are, then it's okay to keep it that way. I don't know if viagra might mess with your cycle as it will affect hormones?

Oh no haha, I have the odd hairs on my chin or coming out of moles on my face that I pull out with tweezers. My body started feeling older from 26, hangovers got much worse and my fitness in general just went down. I already had quite a few pesky hairs, so that was nothing new 😂😂. Do you find hangovers are much worse now? Although I think you said you don't drink much anyway?

Yes it's a shame the holiday probably won't go ahead. Although I hope my Dad picks somewhere cheaper next time, as it seemed he went for one of the most expensive places! It was supposed to be a celebration of his 50th and my 30th, so it was a bit rubbish I didn't get a say in it.

2024 😱😱 I only have 6 months left until I'm 30, covid has robbed me of my last year in my 20s 😭😭. By this winter most people will have been vaccinated so I think in 2022 there will be much less restrictions. Hopefully you'll get a bit more freedom in your last year before 30! Maybe you could make a bucket list of achievements/fun things to do before 30?? Have you ever been to Disneyland? I went to the Florida one when I was very young so can't remember much but I'd love to go to the Paris one. Maybe I'll have to wait until we have kids so I've got an excuse 😂😂.

I'm not sure what to aim for career wise, I think a job in intelligence would be interesting as I pay close attention to detail, I'm quite good at deciphering evidence and figuring things out. Not sure I fancy a job in the police though as it's low pay. Would you try something different or do you think you'll stick with the field you're in?

I have family in Canada and we've considered moving there, after seeing Britain going down hill but I think I'd miss my family too much to move that far away. Have you been to Canada before?

Haha my Mum will not love anything I make, I told her what I was capable of making but she only took into consideration what she wanted, not my ability. Hopefully I'll get a nice jacket out of this but doing the lining on a jacket is gonna be really difficult. Have you got a room or area planned for the new house where you'll do all your sewing and pattern making?

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unCliche · 31/01/2021 00:54

Wooow! Look at how high your temp has gone. 36.8 is amazing! I'm so excited for your cycle! Are you feeling optimistic? I'm definitely looking forward to seeing what your 3DPO temps are, hopefully they're higher. That's quite a big jump, I can't imagine alcohol would have that much of an impact but let's see what happens.

Yup, I too propped my hips up with some pillows. But weirdly enough, nothing came out when I stood up. It must have dribbled out when I hadn't noticed. I was so scared there was no semen in me that I had to put a finger in to check. I wonder what happens to the semen that doesn't fall out. My carnivorous body probably consumed it all. Yummy! Today was actually the first time I wiped and saw lots of EWCM on the tissue. It's only ever at my cervix so I must have had loads today too. I hope I was fertile enough when we DTD.

Yeah, our tenancy ends 15th March. I really hope that a month and a half is enough to complete everything or else I wouldn't know what to do. I'm going to have to really push the solicitors as February is pretty much here!

I'm not sure if I'm stopping myself from reaching an orgasmic peak or whether it's physically impossible for me to. I'm happy with where things are. I think a huge climax would make me explode into a million pieces and I would't like it. Not being ashamed is easier said than done but I think I've come a long way from where I used to be. Maybe I'll take the female viagra to see what happens to my body. Or perhaps testosterone would work for me, although I already feel like a man with the single hair that grows on my chin 😂 Have you found your body has started misbehaving since age 25?

Looks like covid continues to ruin plans. It would have been nice for you to have a holiday with your family, especially with the terrible year we've all had. The news is saying things won't be back to normal until 2024 😱 I don't want that to be true but it means our 20s is basically over 😭

They'll definitely be more opportunities in the bigger cities for sure. Would you look for jobs that are similar to what you do now or would you look to try something new? Is there anything else you'd want to do in an ideal world?

Yeah, it's always been London and Reading for me. My middle sister is studying abroad and I kind of wish that I experienced living in another country. It must be a challenging but rewarding experience. Would you live in another country? Canada is definitely a place I'd seriously consider moving to.

Hehe that's exactly why I don't sew for people. I get major performance anxiety and it really stresses me out and affects my sleep. But hopefully you can overcome your nerves. It's only your mum. She'll love whatever you make!

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ButterscotchBabe · 30/01/2021 18:22

Yay happy ovulation day! Hopefully they'll already be sperm up there from CD12 but great to put some fresh ones in today just in case! Haha I always lie down too, sometimes I also lift/tilt my pelvis up to try and push them in the right direction! One of the recent times we DTD it took ages for the semen to come out of me once I'd got up, so hopefully that's a sign they were high up there!

I think you should keep your low temp on there, it might be relevant later when you're comparing LP with FP temps. My temp shot up this morning but I did have quite a few drinks last night so that might have raised it more than normal, I'll have to see what it does tomorrow! Oddly I've also still got a lot of EWCM which would indicate estrogen is still high. If fertilisation occurs then estrogen and progesterone rise, so could be a sign! But probably isn't... 😂

Have you got a move out date yet? If you make the tenancy later than the day you want to leave, that should give you extra time incase there's any hiccups getting into the new place.

I've not heard of mini-orgasmic before, if you keep going do you think you could reach a peak? Don't be ashamed of what happened when you were younger, the only person who should be ashamed is that guy! As time goes on hopefully that will become a distant memory and you can enjoy sex with your DH 🙂. My sex drive has increased a little but no where near what it used to be. Testosterone would increase libido but it would also make me hairy 😂😂.

Yes lol I did some research on fertility drugs so that if they offer me something, I can decide there and then if I want it or I can ask for something else.

The holiday is still being advertised on Tui but we haven't booked yet as I reckon it's not gonna go ahead. I can't see covid being over by June 😕. So you might struggle to get to Greece this spring, maybe by end of summer or autumn we'll be able to fly again. Depends how quick they get the vaccine out to everyone.

Aww thanks 😊😊 your children will be very lucky to have you as a Mother!

Similar to you! I like contemporary, I'm not keen on bold colours in a house, I prefer softer colours in a clean and tidy environment but also with some homely touches. Wood helps give a house a warm, homely feel.

Most of my life has been in Devon, we left the Midlands when I was around 8 so I don't remember it much. Job opportunities are definitely less in Devon, that's one of the reasons I want to move back up to the Midlands. Have you always lived in Reading/London, apart from when you were at uni?

Haven't started the pattern yet 😂, been lazy today but also feeling nervous about it, I won't offer to make something for someone else again, it's not nice to have that pressure. Especially when I'm still very inexperienced. I will have to start tomorrow though!

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unCliche · 30/01/2021 14:57

I haven't had a chance to do an OPK today but I suspect it'll be -ve. My temp dipped today, which means I'm ovulating today! If it follows my usual pattern, it'll go back up tomorrow to CD13 temps. DH and I managed to DTD this afternoon after we came back in. The estate agent said they'd probably get at least two offers for the house, which is great. I just hope we don't end up homeless 😅 I'm now laying down, trying to keep the sperm in! 😂

Actually, the beginning part of your chart this cycles doesn't look too dissimilar to the rest. The only weird bit is the random increase before ovulation. Plus you didn't get your usual ovulation dip. It could be the B vitamins trying to balance your hormones. My temps are quite low, which could mean high estrogen 😱 I removed the random low temp as it just didn't look very nice 😂 How are your temps now at 2dpo?

I think I had my first orgasm with myself but with the help and support of DH. Although I can't 100% say if what I have are orgasms. I think I'm mini-orgasmic, which is where you have multiple little peaks but never a big explosion. For me, it comes in waves. My vaginal walls start contracting, it then gets really intense and then I come down. Only for it to get intense again. And it cycles like that indefinitely. Sometimes I go deaf and my ears start ringing. I definitely think part of my lack of interest in sex is due to what happened when I was younger. I think it's the shame of finding what happened pleasurable even though it was a horrible experience for me. So to my subconscious, pleasure = bad. Do you think with hormonal help you could get your sex drive high again?

Well we haven't been to Greece since Easter 2019 so visiting wouldn't be something that'd raise questions. Plus DH going to Greece is such a normal occurrence as that's where his sister and parents are so it'll never be weird. I'm guessing your Greek holiday isn't happening anymore?

Haha how do you know so much about the medication? Have you been doing your research? Clomid sometimes gets prescribed to men with low sperm count as well. It's interesting the things it can do.

Girl, you've got some great genes! Your kids will be so lucky to have you as a mother.

I think I'm too far gone to ever enjoy a bath! Showers are fine 😁 I'll only ever need a bathtub for when I have kids, but really, the dream would be a long shower cubicle with two shower heads on opposite ends so DH and I could shower together 😁 I really should add that into my house floor plan somewhere 😂😂

What sort of decor taste do you have. Are there particular styles you gravitate towards? I think in my home, I'd like clean, minimalistic but homely at the same time.

Oh nice! Do you prefer Devon to the Midlands? Or has most of your life been spent in Devon?

How's that pattern coming along?

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