9DPO Symptom Spotting

Oh no, it looks like it's dropping quite early. I hate that we know our bodies enough to predict if AF is coming. I'm sorry in advance 😔 But I am really curious to see how clomid will affect your chart. We'll have to celebrate when you have your first 12+ day LP and your first 36.8+ temp. Are you still going to DTD lots next cycle or take a break and wait for the clomid?

I'm feeling quite disappointed today. My nipples are less sore so my progesterone must be dropping which means AF is right around the corner for me too. I don't want to be sad because we were taking a break this cycle but it sucks that it still didn't happen, even when we relaxed. I don't think I'm going to test this cycle unfortunately. There's no point. How did you feel when you passed your 6 month mark TTC? I feel like a statistic. And not a good one 😔

I wonder how much we've contributed to the NHS. We'd have to get our monies worth. If you can get IVF on the NHS then you'd definitely be using up as much as you've put in. When we've reached a year TTC maybe we'll go for it too. Let's hope that we meet the criteria and the waiting list isn't too long.

The consultant said DH and I are highly likely to conceive but it just doesn't feel like it. There could be hidden things wrong with us. I just don't believe low sperm count and low progesterone are the only things we're battling with. I just feel so hopeless! I don't even think the pessaries will work! 😫 I'm not usually a negative person but I just don't think it'll happen for me 😭

Hehe, I'll have to train the rabbits to not chew things and poop everywhere. Rabbits apparently don't like perfume, so I'll spray things I want to protect in some cheap perfume and hopefully they won't chew on them. I can't wait to live with them though!

Haha you should punish your DP 😈 What does he currently do all day? Yeah, I would say DH does get too consumed in work. It can be annoying when I want his attention. BTW, I sent you a message on LinkedIn for a role DH is recruiting in. If your DP is still looking, maybe he'd be interested in it.

Haha that'd be a story for the grandkids 😂 Kidding! But it will definitely be a good story for mumsnet. Have you ever started a post on anything non-TTC related? Seeing private healthcare prices makes you appreciate the NHS. I haven't had to use it much, but if I needed serious medical help, it could easily be in the tens of thousands. Just googled how much a colposcopy with cervical biopsy costs and it's about £800 😱😱😱 and I literally got that done a few months back on the NHS!!

I'm pretty hopeful that medication will be enough for you guys too. I guess SA analysis can be a bit awkward to talk about. No one really wants to discuss their masturbation with someone else 😂 But you're right, you'll be doing a lot more than what he has to. Hopefully your scan will show a good follicle count and size but my consultant said it doesn't tell you anything about the quality of the eggs, so while we both definitely ovulate, our eggs could just be shit. Clomid should fix that for you so you're definitely in a good place to be!

Have you had anymore cramping? I haven't, but even if I did, it wouldn't mean anything. My boobs and nipples are still sore but my theory is that the vitamins I was taking suppressed quite a bit of my PMS but now that I'm off them, my body has gone full PMS-monster. CM doesn't seem to be creamy anymore but I still feel leaky. It's still white but more watery so I'm guessing AF will be starting soon 🤷‍♀️ Not sure if it's even worth testing tomorrow. I hope you can make it to Sunday though. Maybe your good news is right around the corner!

We've exchange contracts today and we'll complete tomorrow! All our funds are in so tomorrow we'll officially be homeowners!! We're moving the rabbits in tomorrow too to give them some time to adjust to the new house. They have a carrier so we'll transport them in that. I'm so excited!!

Yeaah definitely find some time to do some sewing. It's so hard finding things to do on your time off during lockdown but luckily we both have things to focus on. I never did manage to take pics of the dress 🙈

How's your DP getting on with the house chores 😂 Is he looking forward to starting his new job? My DH has decided to get himself another job to do on the weekend - working as an executive at a start up. I don't know why it's necessary and I worry he won't have time for me (and the kids) anymore 😔

Yaaaaaaaaaay!!! Your lucky DP! I read you have to keep the semen at body temperature while you go to deliver it, so you might need to hold it between your thighs (or boobs??) on your drive there if your DP is driving. Glad they're jumping right in with all the tests. You won't have to wait too long for your day 3 bloods. Day 21 bloods is a bit tricky. Even if you wait 7 days after you ovulate, that might not be when your progesterone peaks. Will you have to pay for each blood test you have?

Good news about the clomid too! Did you ask about IVF? Sounds like that's the only way you'd get the medication you want. But at least you're now two cycles away from potentially starting on clomid! Hopefully your DPs SA comes back ok so you have less to deal with. How is your DP feeling about the conversation. Is he hopeful? Did the doctor say anything about your short LP? Did you talk about your BBT charts? Did she say how much the clomid would cost? Is it pricey?

Sucks your temp went down slightly. Isn't it 5dpo where you usually get a dip? Interesting that you got a jump this time. Oh did the cramping wake you up? Was it painful? Are you still cramping?

(Sorry, I have so many questions today!)

I have loads of creamy CM today. I feel leaky and it feels like someone emptied a whole tube of thick hand cream inside me. By now CM would be sticky but my vagina feels like it's coated in cream 🥴 I think I'm going to go back through this thread to check what my CM has been like in previous cycles. Maybe it's normal.

😱😱😱 PMS on progesterone. I don't think I want to know either 😭 I hope it's the complete opposite and I have no PMS. I actually feel a bit better today. Nipples don't feel as terrible. Phew! The needle-like stabbing hasn't returned either so I'm feeling pretty normal!

Yeah, looks like everything is confirmed with the sale (or at least I hope so.) We checked our online bank account and they've added our mortgage account to it! So our mortgage deed must have been sent off and everything completed!

I've somehow managed to convince myself that I'm still going to wear clothes that I haven't worn in years so I'm keeping lots of stuff 😂😂 and you're right, lockdown hasn't helped at all! Do you find yourself living in the same clothes? Did you manage to finish your jacket project?

Aww I liked interpreting your dream! But it's good that your subconscious is at peace 😂 Maybe because you've gotten the job now! I'm not sure how I'll sleep if I'm honest. It does get easier to sleep the longer it takes for me to conceive so with that and the excitement of trying progesterone next cycle maybe that'll make me sleep easier. And yeah, I've saved my progesterone test for next cycle so hopefully the results will show the pessaries are working.

Woooo! Your temps look great!! Did you make it past 36.8 today? Maybe having higher FP temps balances out the rise but what you're looking for is a rise of 0.5 between FP and LP and I think you have that (although I don't know if it's from the lowest temp or the average temp). Also, your appointment is today!! Tell me everything! How did it go? What did you say? What did they say? I'm looking forward to this!!

I feel sorry for us all the time. Like I'll read something from previous entries like, "I have this new symptom, I wonder if it means anything" and in my head I'll be screaming, it means NOTHING! 😂 Poor us! I wish we could see if people are watching this thread. We might have to be more dramatic with our storytelling just to add some pazzazz to this thread.

Girl, you do not want sore boobs. Trust me! This cycle, they have been horrid. I'm not entirely sure what to do with them but I'm seriously wishing AF to come round quickly. Usually every cycle, they ache deeply and get really heavy and hurt when I move. Now they feel sore. Not achy. Sore. Like my breasts have been on fire. And my nipples!! My God!! My nipples 🤢 The feeling has been disgusting. It's like a sensitivity that when touched, it reverberates all the way through me. Yeah... No thanks. The fact that you can confirm ovulation every cycle is enough. You don't need this extra progesterone fuelled drama (and this is with me having low progesterone!)

Welcome to the implantation zone! Have you been feeling anything yet? Last night, I felt like I was getting stabbed by a million needles under my skin in my pelvic area. It did hurt but I was in loads of pain last cycle and that meant F all! 😂😂 So just AF gearing up ⚙️

Looool we've spoken about it and he seems to be onboard with it ✂️ The good thing is that a vasectomy is reversible but I can't imagine wanting more kids after we've had three so it'll probably stay snipped forever. What if you're 45, still fertile but you don't want anymore kids, would you use condoms?

Definitely much better hearing real life experiences. Doctors can be very insular. If it's not in a textbook somewhere, it can't be real. And how are we supposed to trust males doctors with our bodies. They may know the theory but they will never know what it feels like to menstruate or carry a child within you. Are we just supposed to take their word for it?

I'm taking my day off next Friday, so I'll be off from Friday this week to Friday next week. 🤞🤞 I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you. Hopefully they won't keep you waiting too long before you hear back about the position. July isn't too far away so I hope it's sooner rather than later.

Nah, I think we'll pack everything ourselves. We've booked in 9th March with the movers, so this time next week, we'll be in our new home! I've packed all our clothes into bin bags and I'll probably start moving things over once we get the keys on Friday. Do you do a wardrobe clear out when you move? I'm looking to donate stuff to charity.

My sleep has been great! I'm only ever anxious during the end of my cycle when I'm apprehensive about AF starting. So I'm probably getting closer to insomnia territory again. I had a nightmare two nights ago 😱 It was full of murder and violence. I woke up to my heart racing and it took me a while to settle down. Horrible stuff! Have you still been having your weird dreams?

I'm ok with rowing machines. I'd use them over a treadmill, that's for sure. Those boxing punch bags are so hard to hit right?? I was going to represent my company in a charity boxing event and when I went for training, I tried punching the bags and they're so heavy and barely move when I hit them! Aw that sounds really fun! I'd love a boxing match! Mine got cancelled because of covid.

I'm not sure where to order the pessaries from. I wonder if I can just go into Boots pharmacy. The consultant said they were cheap, so I can't imagine them being overly expensive. Looks like it's about £1 a pessasrie. So inexpensive enough.

March definitely is shaping out to be a good month. Do you have anything exciting happening for you this month? Apart from your appointment today, which I'm looking forward to hearing about!!!

How are your temps now? Have they gone back up again? Anything different in your chart apart from that dip? Yesterday, I was thinking about what my chart would be doing at 6DPO and I think it would be at about 36.64. I did decide to check CM and I have loads of creamy CM but creamy is normal for me at this point in my cycle so not much has changed there. I just can't remember what the amount in past cycles were like.

Do you sometimes go back and read through our chat to remember what your body was doing on a specific date? This is like our own private shared diary 😄😄

7 DPO and I feel nothing 😫 Sore boobs. Sore nipples. But nothing new. How about you?

No, I felt no pain from my dislodge coil. The nurse was very surprised when I told her I didn't feel anything. Maybe it broke my uterus. I don't think I'd ever use contraception either. Once we're finally done with the baby-making, DH is getting the snip ✂️ Would your DP do the same?

Hahahaa!! I would laaaaugh if you jumped in and said "well, actually, user unCliche from mumsnet said that when..." 😂😂😂 Your DP would probably ask you to stay away from mumsnet forever.

Yaaay! Congrats on getting the job. 💃🎊🎉 They got back to you very quickly! Have hope that they'll have the budget! But for them to advertise 3 roles means that they're confident that they will. If they don't what will happen? Will you look for another job?

Our move in date will be whenever we can book movers for. Hopefully it'll be some time early next week. We're still in the process of packing but I feel like it's going to take ages!
It's good to sometimes do nothing on the weekends, and at least you were able to get some rest. Are you feeling less tired now? I feel so sleepy everyday. My head touches the pillow and I'm gone 😴😂

He's planning on getting a rowing machine now. But only after we've moved into the new place. We came to a compromise, that he's only allowed one machine and a weight bench. I'm thinking about getting a boxing bag to release pent up frustration 😁 Then once we've built our outdoor gym, he can have as many equipment as he wants.

My prescription came today. It's for 15 pills so I guess it's not smart to start taking them midway through my cycle, especially if I'll need all 15 next cycle. Maybe I'll test with an FRER at 10DPO depending on what my CM is doing and if it's a BFP (which I highly doubt) then I'll speak to the consultant about whether I should take the pessaries to help with the pregnancy.

I wouldn't mind a November baby - it would be my own special birthday present 💕 And hopefully a BFP could be DH's present too.

My cycle is going ok. Boobs are still sore and nipple soreness has been coming and going. More PMS symptoms can only be a good thing right? My cousin messaged me today asking if I was pregnant because her friend had a dream that I was. How random?? She's not even someone I'm that acquainted with. Do you know anyone whose dreams generally come true?

I think women should have better information about what goes inside their body. But until men choose to take responsibility for pregnancy prevention, that's just never going to happen. If you had to choose contraception again, what would you go for? I used to have the coil, but got it removed after a few weeks because it had dislodge itself.

I guess he thinks my ovulation is fine, since I ovulate regularly and my follicles look big and healthy enough. Maybe progesterone will do the job. Who knows...? Anyway, I'm leaving it to the experts because clearly anything I try never works. I haven't received the prescription yet, I'll probably get it tomorrow. If I can get to a pharmacy quickly then I'll be able to potentially start using it this cycle.

On the B-Vitamins, I always ovulated on day 14 or 15. When I came off them, this cycle, it was day 13 so they probably had zero impact on my cycle but could still potentially have an impact on yours. But I think it's hard to pinpoint reasons why things happen. It could just be that this month, your hormones wanted to relax a little before getting to work 😁 Since it's just one cycle, it might not mean anything yet. But still bring it up during your appointment.

I can definitely see a battle of wills happening during your appointment! 😂 It's going to be interesting to see what they say, especially if it's completely different to what you want. Do you plan on telling them what you want or will you ask them if you can have what you want? Might be worth having some research papers with you so you can quote the experts 😂😂 Then they'll really think you're crazy. I know my consultant already thinks I am 😁

Ah! Ok, it's the same job role! That's good then. Nothing changes for you. Yeah, a proof of concept basically shows that it can be done.

Yup! Still haven't monitored this cycle. I haven't even checked CM for a few days now. I already know I've ovulated so there's nothing else monitoring will tell me. Your temps look ok so far. I think one temp doesn't matter. If it keeps going down, then I'll start getting concerned but hopefully tomorrow, it jumps up!

I've had quite a busy weekend. On Friday, I had a boozy zoom call with old school friends. Then I went for a four hour walk yesterday with DH and our friends. Then I had to dismantle the rabbit enclosure as I had found a buyer on Facebook. I was just planning on throwing it away but glad I sold it as I got £150 for it. I guess that'll go towards DH's bday present. I'll have to spend most of today packing too. How has your weekend been? One more week until our week off!! 💃💃💃

Ah that's great! I knew you'd do well. Next week will definitely be a good week for both of us! Hopefully they don't keep you waiting too long🤞 glad you feel better too - you sounded like you were really unwell!

So the pill has really messed up your cycle. 27 - 29 days is literally the perfect cycle, especially if you ovulated at a good time. Even having PMS symptoms showed your hormones were doing what they were supposed to. Can't believe how much the pill has affected your cycles. So annoying!

I was thinking about testing this cycle but I think I might wait until I start taking the progesterone pessaries to see if they're working. Yeah. I took the agnus castus for just a cycle. Apparently it's a very slow working herb so it may not have made a massive impact of my cycle. I think the B vitamins would have had the bigger affect. You've stopped taking the B vitamins right?

I think I'm mildly allergic to nuts anyway. Sometimes my throat feels tight after I've eaten nuts but I still like nuts! 😁 Do you have any allergies?

AF is due 7th for me so looks like our next cycles will start at similar times. We'll be cycle buddies again! Haha your consultant will be confused as to who is meant to be consulting with who 😂😂 hopefully you get everything you want!

Let's hope things calm down for you at work, but with the new job, will you be even busier? No, there are currently no plans to commercialise the app, plus it was just meant to be a proof of concept, that's all.

I didn't ask about my tubes but if we do get to easter and we haven't conceived we'll probably go ahead and do the additional checks. I'm planning on buying and taking the progesterone next cycle. They'll send me the prescription then I guess I'll have to buy/order the pessaries myself.

You're 1dpo. Any symptoms yet?? 😂

How was your interview?? Really excited to hear how it went. Are you feeling better today?

We've been given a completion date for the house for 5th March, which is DHs bday! Such a great present for him and I've also decided to buy a chair body massager for him.

Spoke to my consultant and was able to ask him all the questions I wanted.

1. Having more eggs means they have a better chance of maturing. During my scan, my dominant follicle was 21mm which is really good apparently

1. Me having low progesterone with DHs low sperm count could impact me getting pregnant but he's more concerned about DH than he is about me and my low progesterone

1. Earlier PMS symptoms (as they started 2dpo) could mean stronger hormones this cycle

1. Spotting during ovulation doesn't mean anything

1. IUI is a possibility but he doesn't want me to work myself up into doing unnecessary treatment.

So to conclude, I still have nothing to worry about but if I want, they can prescribe progesterone pessaries as it wouldn't hurt. I said yes! 😂😂 So I'm getting a prescription sent to me. Yay!

Sorry you're not feeling too great! At least you have some confirmation that you're ovulating. Is the pain usually this bad? Sounds like this one is especially terrible with the headache and nausea. I hope you'll be fine tomorrow for your interview.

I think for some people, it takes a good number of months to adjust from the pill. Do you remember what your cycles were like before you went on the pill. Obviously you wouldn't know ovulation day and LP but do you remember the general cycle length? The flow? Ovulation pain? Anything different?

I'm quite perplexed about this cycle but I wonder if this is normal for me without vitamins, but my boobs are sore already. I vaguely recall getting sore boobs straight after ovulation in the past but because I wasn't paying attention to my cycles back then, I'm not 100% sure. I also wonder what it means for my progesterone levels. I'll probably test again at 7DPO to check. I wouldn't think that the vitamins would have been suppressing my hormones...?

I was reading a post on facebook today (in the Ava bracelet group) that asked women who were diagnosed with unexplained infertility whether they ever got an explanation and one that really surprised me was a lady who was allergic to something that kept causing inflammations inside of her and once she cut out the food, she got pregnant. What if we're secretly allergic to something 😱 I've started looking at nuts sideways, although I've just eaten a Snickers bar 😁

That reminds me that I need to write down questions I want to ask the consultant. I think when AF shows up, I spiral and look for every way possible to fix whatever's broken. So, I suppose speaking to the consultant was something that I needed to do at CD1, but now that I have zero F's to give I feel pretty chill about it all. Maybe it'll help me have a factual conversation instead of an emotional one. Your appointment isn't too far away either. Will AF have started for you by the time your appointment comes around? You're pretty level-headed and knowledgeable anyway so you'll probably carry the whole conversation with expert calm 😁

A break is always great. The new year has barely started but it seems like work has been crazy for you. Do you have periods where it's really hectic and periods where it's calm? My Alexa app has been getting a lot of hype at work and I've had to do loads of demos and I was given recognition and awarded a day off. I'm not sure I like all the attention. I prefer being invisible at work and just getting on with things 😪

I'll be able to give you updates on the move at least. I'll let you know how everything goes. Hopefully nothing else delays things!

Do you think evil people know they're evil? Or are they just deluded? I can't imagine ever hurting a living thing on purpose (except bugs and especially mosquitos.) But some people are born evil. I still remember reading this.

Good luck tomorrow! Let me know how it goes although I know you'll be fine. Do you know when you'll hear back about whether you got the job our not?

Yaaaaaay! Finally! Better late than never 😁 maybe your body is still adjusting from the pill? Hopefully things will start settling down soon. I'm really surprised that I'm ahead of you for the first time ever 😂 I wonder what this means for next cycle. Maybe we'll be back in sync and ovulate on the same day.

Yes, CD13 is the earliest I've recorded ovulation. This month my body didn't follow my usual pattern. I get 4 days of EWCM before I ovulate but I only got it for one day! Luckily it was the day we DTD. All unplanned 😅 I'm actually loving the not-knowing because all I can do is speculate!

Right?? Like how many dead sperm must have been in that condom? How powerful were those sperm? How many days away from ovulation could she have been? Getting pregnant must seriously be the easiest thing in the world 😱 which only confirms that mine and DHs genetic material suck! 😂😂😂

Nah I think I've quit pregnancy tests. What's the point anymore? He does like me in sexy lingerie 🤔 a keyring would be nice too 🤔 he'd love a personalised book! I think I'll go down the personalisation route. It'll mean more to him, even if it's something simple. Thank you!

Good news with the house! We got a response from the bank and we should be able to complete next week. Phew! We're cutting it pretty close. I've taken the week of the 8th off work so we can sort everything out. We're trying to book in movers for that week too. And then cleaners on the weekend. Return keys on the 15th and then we are finished with this current place forever!

Gosh, it's crazy to think real life psychopaths exist. I've never come across anyone like that before. But actually there was this one time I was at a customer meeting at work and I just got bad vibes from one the customers. He was really smiley and jovial but something in him made me really suspicious. Like he had abusive tendancies or something. Have you met a psycho before?

How are you feeling about Friday. Not long to go now. Are you better prepared?

Woooo! Freedom! I'm not sure what I'll do but it'll definitely involve me being out of the house all the time. I'll organise loads of meetups with my sci-fi/fantasy group and just see people. Host loads of gatherings and generally enjoy life. Resistance bands are great. They really helped me add variety to my leg workouts when the gyms were closed. Finally something to look for wtf to though!

Eeeeee I'm actually finally feeling excited about the house. I'm going to start packing things and dismantling my rabbits enclosure!

Just checked CM again this morning and it's definitely creamy. Looks like I must have ovulated yesterday. I had a lot of pain in my lower abdomen (definitely ovulated from my right ovary as I've been feeling twinges for a few days on that side so not surprised) so I'm taking today as 1DPO. I was not expecting this 😱 good thing DH and I DTD when we did. This is the first time we've DTD without the pressure of ovulation. I wonder if CD13 is my normal ovulation day without vitamins 🤷‍♀️

Any sign of your ovulation today?

Haha you go girl! Make the most of your personal Fairy God Lover 😂 shocked he's agreed to do everything you've listed bless him! HR are pretty useless in most companies so I'm not really surprised about the delay. At least he's got a job lined up now.

😱😱 What's going on?? I thought surely you'd get a +ve OPK today. From past cycles, how long does it take to get a +ve OPK from when they start hovering around 40%? Really strange what's going on. Fingers crossed it isn't an anovulatory cycle 😱🤞 although they do sometimes happen. Let me know how your temps do tomorrow. They could zig-zag a bit before you finally ovulate.

I got spotting, I think, 2 cycles ago. It was just a random brown streak. But this one is different. It's more mixed into my CM and pink. I'm not too worried about it. I don't think it means anything bad. I haven't checked CM today. Haven't really thought about sticking my fingers up myself today, strangely enough 😂 but now that you've mentioned it, I should check. Hmmm... Not sure. Looks watery creamy?? Maybe I've already ovulated. I'll have to check tomorrow.

Some people don't understand how lucky they are 😭 it really isn't fair. I still remember the story of a hotel room keeper who stole sperm out of a guests used condom and inseminated herself. Then she got pregnant and took him to court for child support and she won! Ok fair enough, it's a crazy story but what I want to know is HOW she got pregnant??????? Could she teach me? 😂😂😭 Abortion is a tricky one and people have their reasons. I could never consider it but each to their own.

Hehe no plans yet. It's DHs 32nd on the 5th so I need to think about what to do for that first. I have no idea what to do or what to get him. I threw him a surprise party for his 30th and I'd love to do something like that again. Any suggestions on how I could surprise him? Any gift ideas?? I'll be 8DPO then (assuming a CD15 ovulation) so I don't think a -ve HPT would work 🤔

I'm not too keen on germs and avoid getting in contact with dirt if I can but with kids, I think they need that exposure to help build their immune system. If they start eating mud I'd probably have a heart attack but the rational part of my brain would know it won't kill them. I'm ok with mud though. I don't mind being one with nature as long as there are no bugs 🤢😱

I have faith we'll complete before mid March. I'm not too worried right now. But you're right, we will need a plan. Our first course of action would be to see if we could extend our tenancy for a week or two. If not, we would probably ask the vendor of the house if we could move in and rent it out for a few days until we complete. Last would be moving furniture into storage and going to my parents. I'd take my rabbits with me wherever I go. They're my babies 🥰

I completely get the hype around Behind Her Eyes! 😱😱😱😱 It's shocking. Yes it's an absolute psychological thriller but you wouldn't think so at first. Definitely recommend. Is it worth watching the Serpent? Just had a look at it and it looks interesting.

Do you have plans for the end of lockdown? I'm starting to think about working out in the garden again. Time to get my body back 💪

Haha what sort of jobs are on the list? Cook me breakfast, cook me lunch, cook me dinner, vacuum clean the house, clean the bathroom, change that lightbulb that has never seemed to work, iron all my clothes and build me a desk? Well at least that's what mine would be 😂😂 Any news on the other role?

Ok, it's looking like you'll get a +ve OPK tomorrow hopefully. Really weird that your cycle has changed because you haven't really changed anything. Is there anything new you've done this cycle? Could be the brazil nuts, although I don't think they'd have much of an impact on when you ovulate or on your CM. You might need to really get in there with your finger and have a swipe at your cervix to see what your CM is doing. But you could just be having a randomly off cycle.

CM is the only thing I can check tbh, but I won't be able to tell I've ovulated until it turns creamy. I've had loads of EWCM today and it's been a bit pink, so looks like I'm spotting too, which is new, although I had that random brown streak a few cycles back. From my intuition, I'll probably have a CD15 ovulation. I've DTD today, so will try and do it again in two days. How's DTD going? have you started getting ovulation pain?

Yeah, I think I have. I do get randomly sad that we might not conceive naturally but having no expectations has been the best thing for my mental health. I do really hope that fertility assistance will give us the helping hand we clearly need 😂 I think I've even stopped desperately wanting a baby. I just don't give an F anymore 😂 (until AF shows up and I have an emotional breakdown). It's my one year wedding anniversary at the end of this cycle too 😅 fun....!

Well considering the physical state of those who get pregnant so easily, their diet can't be all that great and yet they still manage it. I've had a chocolate bar today so I think I'm doing a good job. About to order pizza too 😂 Loads of people have boozy weekends just before they find out they're pregnant, so better stock up on the alcohol while you're at it. Yeah, getting ill once a year is actually really good. I'm the same. We probably ate a lot of dirt as kids. Do you think you'll let you kids get down and dirty when they're playing outside?

Gosh, I hope so. I don't think DH can deal with the stress of house buying anymore. I've been pretty chill about it but I think I'll start to panic if we're faced with homelessness.

Are you watching anything interesting right now? Started watching Behind Her Eyes on Netflix. It's been trending on social media so I'm interested to see what the hype is about.