No AF and BFNs 🤷‍♀️

Hi ladies, I've just read the whole thread and would like to join as I'm potentially experiencing something similar to what I've read here. I had a faint positive at 10DPO, negative at 11DPO, but faint line was back again at 12dpo.
Felt like I was wasting FRERs so I'm now waiting until AF is 1 day late (tomorrow at 15dpo) to test again.

I'm wondering about a chemical pregnancy now though based on @ImpatientMama @Donnat89 and @Marvellouslymadmum 's experiences.
It seems like a chemical can delay your AF, and still show faint lines even after AF. @ImpatientMama when you had yours, how did the doctor confirm it?
It's great to see you've one got your BFP progressing along nicely 💖 bit of hope for us all!

I'm holding out hope still that I might get a BFP but like others here I've had cramps on and off the whole tww, it's so strange. This will be my first baby, aged 30 and cycle #3 off the pill.

Yea I don't know how far they'll go with tests as in I'm not sure if they'll do any fertility type testing but I'm going to ask next time I speak to her. We go through stages of lots of dtd extra even to bare minimum lol depends on our moods at the time 😂

@Marvellouslymadmum oh well I’m pleased the gp is looking at options and doing other tests! And yep no harm in lots of dtd is there... I’ve just said to my partner just because I’m potentially not ovulating it doesn’t mean we need to stop trying, so he’s thrilled about that 😂

@HT1335 I bought the Femometer tests so not the really cheap but not expensive either! I put the pic in two apps and the Femometer app said yes and the other said no 🤦🏼‍♀️ so we dtd anyway and I'll try taking another one tomorrow 😂 no I believe that if you both have children you get no hope, if one of you does you get a little help and that's about it but I could be wrong. Doc phoned me today and said I've got really low iron too so she's prescribing me some of that and doing another test for something or other as well lol

@Marvellouslymadmum I had this on the cheaper tests and I assumed a faint line meant the LH surge was on its way but I don’t know if that’s right?
Oh can you not get ivf if you’ve had children from previous relationships I didn’t realise that.. this is my first time ttc so I’m still on a huge learning curve! I just hope that we can all get some answers soon 🤞🏻
Seems like whatever stage your at with ttc it’s a waiting game doesn’t it x

I just took my first opk and got a feint line, does that mean I'm near the LH surge or is that just nothing? According to the tests of its a lighter line than the test line its a negative but is that just for the surge and means it's on its way? 🤦🏼‍♀️

@HT1335 I do feel a little more relaxed, though docs still took my bloods Tuesday so I'll be calling for results next Tuesday which I fully expect to say not a lot lol! I'm thinking about paying for tests for dp sa and any that I may need too as we've been trying though somewhat casually for around 3 years now and apart from the two mc nothing. I know when you both have children from previous relationships you're not eligible for any ivf on nhs so had assumed you're not eligible for any tests either but not so sure now from what some others have said 🤔 I was thinking I may just start poas today and see if and when I get that LH surge!

It's so hard all this waiting! At least it's going on the right direction for you 🤞🏻 it'll go quickly once the balls rolling

@Marvellouslymadmum oh sometimes you need some downtime to switch off I hope it’s worked for you and you feel de stressed! I’m the same I was thinking unless I tested every single day i have no idea when I’m ovulating! If you’ve got plenty I would maybe start now and keep a record of everything it might give you a clearer picture of what’s happening.
Yep I’m just waiting of appts now, my partner needs to submit his sample too when we get that appt and I really hope it all doesn’t take too long, Covid is delaying so many things at present so I’ll have to wait and see x

Hi ladies, haven't been in much recently just took some r & r time - I cross stitch to keep my mind off if things (just like diamond painting but with a needle and thread) that's really therapeutic and keeps me totally occupied and I have lovely things at the end of each project! I've bought myself a loads of opk strips but now as my cycle has been thrown out the window I've no idea when to start testing! Any ideas?

@HT1335 sorry to hear about your blood results but very good that the gps are being so proactive and referring you etc! I've read up a bit about pcos recently Incase that's what was effecting me and most people do ovulate here and there so it doesn't stop completely, plus they'll hopefully prescribe you some good meds to make you ovulate more regularly which is a very positive thing 😊

@HJen22 I’m in Cumbria so not much snow and lots of rain 😖 I think I’d prefer some snow!
Yes I’ll use them and then it will be helpful information for my appointments if I keep tracking everything!
Haha yes that’s a very good point! I never thought it would be such hassle persuading him to dtd more often, but when it’s in this scenario there’s pressure etc involved so it’s slightly different but we shall keep on trying!!
Good luck! X

@HT1335 oh of course, hopefully you can use them when AF arrives and even if you need to buy more of the sticks I think they still work with the same little holder, I bought the second pack as I thought I'd need more as I messed up a few of the sticks doing it wrong!

Where are you again? We're Scotland so it's chilly but as long as it's dry it's ok! Saying that, it's been snow all over the place so not just us cold!

Thank you! Fingers crossed 🤞🏻 if I need to I'll sell it that the rest of the month won't be so much pressure 😂 x

@HJen22 I’ve got a packet of the CB ovulation sticks I just don’t know when to use them! I’ve had spotting tonight so maybe AF is on its way finally I’m so pleased I’ve been tracking everything as it will be really helpful when I go for my appts.
Oh walking and the crafts sound a good plan I’m going to increase my walks weather dependant!
Nope nothing is blooming straightforward it’s sooo frustrating and a major learning curve
But all we can do is keep trying
I hope you have success tonight 😊x

@HT1335 hopefully the weather stays ok and get plenty walks! And my sister was so kind and sent me a diamond art thing, a craft thing that's super therapeutic so will keep me busy! It is isn't it, so much more complicated than we ever know until you want something so bad! Haha I hope it goes well and I don't have to say anything cos then that's just pressure! Why is nothing straight forward! Def a good idea to keep at it! Our bodies don't always do what we think and you can still ovulate with pcos I'm pretty sure, maybe just not every single month. The CB ovulation tests are much easier than the little sticks, I'd recommend them! X

@HJen22 yep something to do and focus on would be good to provide a distraction and hopefully lower the old stress levels!
It’s really complex how the bodies work and why some people struggle isn’t it... so support and a good gp is a must to help us get through
Good luck with your 3rd day in a row!
I’ve just told the other half we need to continue trying he is not amused and thought he would get a little break 😂x

@HT1335 aw I'm so glad that you had a good experience with the GP, it's always a bit of a worry they aren't going to be nice or understanding isn't it! And that's great you've a family member who's been able to talk things through, and that all of your family have been supportive. Sending lots of hugs 🥰 sometimes we just need a little help! I've the worry that as I've been tested for some of the hormones etc, it could be something else that's causing us issues.

Thank you! I hope so too! I'm not sure how keen my BF is going to be for the 3rd day in a row tonight haha he might think I'm being OTT but my OPKs went from low fertility to high to peak in the space of a few days so I'll explain that if need be, but trying to avoid the ins and outs this month! As it stands we missed two of the fertile days with it being so early on in the cycle and right after AF!

I hope so too! It would be brilliant 🤞🏻 trying to think what I can do in the TWW as a new hobby to avoid overthinking! X

@HJen22 the gp was lovely and just focussed mainly on the referrals that she can make now luckily I have a family member who works in the gynae clinics so she’s talked me through things and told me not to worry, I’ve told family today too so I feel relieved for that and they’ve been really supportive which helps. So I really need to stay positive and accept that we will need a little help to get there!
Oh I hope your plan for this month works I really do! And I see what you mean about thinking too much when your waiting.. the lockdown doesn’t help for giving us more time to sit and think does it!
Hopefully we will get our bfps soon, this year would be brilliant if it happened 🤞🏻X

@HT1335 I found myself getting my hopes up last time I used the CB so I'm going to try and just not think too much about it in the TWW, ha famous last words! Seems early but I've had ovulation on cycle day 9 before too after doing OPKs and BBT. I just need to be careful as the date on the app can change again when doing BBT, so hoping my BF will continue to DTD for the next few days and not question me 😂 and even if it does move again we've got it covered 🤞🏻 he'll be hoping so the emotional wreck I am every month!

That's great your partners app is now made and the ball is rolling, it will all be worth the wait. Here's hoping when it happens all this stress and worry we have is app forgotten about!

I really hope so too, I think there are a few different medications that can encourage ovulation. Was your GP able to explain much about it? X

@HJen22 oh well that sounds positive! Especially if your had your peak to confirm the ovulation! I agree it’s very tiring and feels like a chore at times and hard to fit it in if your both busy! But good luck I really hope this time is the time it works for you!
Yeah I’ve just spoken to my partner and we’ve rang his gp he can’t get an appt for referral to do his sample for 2 weeks but it’s made now and we’re heading in the right direction. I hope it’s something as simple as I can get some medication to help me ovulate and then it happens.
For now yes I’m going to have some Chocolate even tho I’ve been told by the doctor to keep healthy but a one off won’t harm x

@HT1335 it's ok to be sad and totally understandable, let yourself be sad and have a wine and some chocolate! I know what you mean, in some ways it's better than unexplained when they cant really do anything treatment wise, but also we don't want anything to be wrong with us so it's hard! Many so many people with pcos go on to have babies! So there is hope 🥰 oh or course, I hadn't thought about the fact that doctors and nurses would have been deployed elsewhere. Let's hope things go back to some sort or normality soon! Doesn't bode well for me having to visit the GP either then!

I'm only on CD10 but had my peak on clear blue today so I'm hoping to DTD for the 3rd day in a row haha and tomorrow; I've not told my BF I've been tracking again this month. At least this way I guess we don't have to worry so much about every 2 days if I've had ovulation confirmed but who knows! I know that's what the doctor says but it's just so bloody tiring! I want to give it a really good shot this month and next before the year is up and having to visit the doctor. But we'll see how that goes! X

@HJen22 I’m a big sad but on the other hand if I have got pcos I’d be half to know and get some treatment instead of us just trying and getting nowhere, so I’m trying to be positive and think it’s a good thing it’s being investigated. I thought fertility clinics would be important and running too but the hospital has such low staffing theyve been deployed I think I hope I get an appt soon. In the meantime I think I have another scan to go for prior to the fertility clinic and my partner to go and submit a sample too. We’ll just have to continue trying and hope it doesn’t take too long for appts.
I hope you’re doing ok with your cycle and everything and try to stay positive! X

@Myjourney2021 we are all here; it def does help to talk! I find on the times I don't speak to by BF about my heartache at AF arriving, the tears still come, just later!

I know what you mean, I need to put on my positive pants too! I'm sorry you've suffered with Endometriosis, I'm glad you've been discharged and treated and hopefully soon it will result in a BFP! When you had your first, were you tracking?

@HT1335 oh I'm so sorry 😞 and stupid bloody Covid! If it's any help; I'm not sure if I've said before, my sister was diagnosed with pcos and she was put on medication and conceived a few months later. So at least they have treatments and medication that they can try. But I know it's still upsetting and I've been worried about that too. Can the GP do nothing more? I'd hoped fertility clinics (is that at the hospital?) would still have been running just now, that's disappointing x

@Myjourney2021 oh it’s good that your gp is ok it’s helps a little as you don’t feel even more stressed when you need to ring them etc, positive pants would be good! But it’s hard to have them on all the time.
Me and @HJen22 have been ttc for the same length of time and this group has been brilliant
They now suspect I have pcos and my bloods show I’m not ovulating at all so I’ve been referred for scans and the fertility clinic my partner needs to see his gp too for a sample
The fertility clinic isn’t running due to Covid tho 😭 so I won’t have any more answers until I go there for further scans and investigation.. another waiting game. They advised folic acid, lose weight and regular dtd for now which I’ve been doing anyways but I’ll keep trying and try my hardest to be positive even tho I feel a bit sad x

@HJen22 thank you. It’s good to know I’m not alone. I feel a bit of a weight lifted already tbh.
I know, there’s nothing going on nothing moat people can do to distract their minds. Bless you, i really do know the feeling and it’s not a nice one. Hopefully you’ll get your BFP soon.
Regarding the doctors, kind of, I’m lucky that I’ve been able to see a Gynecologist recently due to my Endometriosis and I’d shared my concerns with them. Had scans, tests and etc and surgery in the Autumn where they removed any visible endometriosis which technically should make me more fertile... but no joy and I’ve since been discharged. My actual GP is okay I guess, I read some horror stories on here but they are generally pretty good, I did speak to them about my desire for TTC at the start of last year but I spoke to DH about making an appointment at the end of next month if nothing has happened by then which they way I feel at the moment feels unlikely. Need to go and put my positive pants on 😀!

@Myjourney2021 welcome! I'm sorry to hear that you are having a rubbish time, we all know how you feel. It's always good to get it off your chest and speak to others who understand, this chat has been great for me! Oh tell me about it, I said the other day this had made starting TTC so much more stressful due to there being absolutely nothing else to do! We started end of March right after my birthday and right when lockdown began! I've been losing my marbles on a monthly basis ever since! I try not to stress or get upset, some months I think I'm ok then have another meltdown! Have you spoken to your doctor at all?

@HT1335 I really feel for you, i know it's a lot easier said than done and I'd be the exact same; but try and not worry. I really hope that like @Myjourney2021 said, it could just be something that supplements etc could help. You've taken the steps to figuring this out and I hope the GP can shed some light as to what's going on x