The Turkey Baster Gang (gobble gobble)

@Makingnumber2 I love the original UK one too! But because the US version is longer, they eventually go a different direction, and you get to know the characters more. It takes a few episodes to really appreciate it. But I think I may have watched the whole thing 6 or 7 times now!!

I'm starting to doubt if I ovulated this weekend. 😣 Temp has not risen to my normal post-O levels, my whole chart is a mess in fact! I guess it's to be expected so soon after the MC. 🤷🏻‍♀️

@eloiseislost love this!
My DH keeps trying to get me to watch the american Office, but haven't done it yet. I loved the original so much I'm not sure anything else could compete, even though I have heard good things about US version. Now I'm living my best Tier 4 life maybe I''ll have time to binge a series!

@MrsKin90 I admire how sensible you are! I suppose one thing we learn from TTC is to hold a small basket…!
I saw these meme, I don't know if any of you are The Office fans but it made me giggle! 😄

Hope spotting is a positive sign for you @MrsKin90!

I'm terrible for symptom spotting. When I look back through my Ovia app I have basically spotted every single pregnancy symptom in the world during the TWW and then it's been a BFN. Hormones are wicked because the hormones in TWW cause the same symptoms as pregnancy symptoms. Just cruel if you ask me!!

A spot of blood in my tww has yet to ever be a good sign for me but I guess has always happened in cycles where my LP is a bit longer than expected 😬 it was more worrying than exciting as it wasn't bloody CM. Just a spot of blood lol. I don't know. We'll see! Thank you both for being "those people" and being positive 😊 my feet are firmly on the ground though as far too early to genuinely be excited about anything.

@Bizawit I'll be crossing my fingers for you that they are positive signs!! Will you test soon?

@MrsKin90 I hate to be "that person" and spread false hope, but the spot of blood and the dip in BBT and HR are very good signs. I didn't have the blood, but I had an intense cramp that lasted a couple of seconds and the dips in 8DPO when I got pregnant. Keeping my fingers crossed for you -for a BFP and a better outcome of course! 🙂

@Makingnumber2 thank so much ❤️.

@MrsKin90 I’m in full on symptom spotting mode now 🙄. In the negative box I have cramps and needing to pee constantly (I know they say that’s an early sign of pregnancy, but for me it’s also def a sign of impending AF). in the positive box I have nausea (probably a mix of covid Christmas anxiety & a determination to believe I’m preg 😂) and a bit of heart burn.

A spot of blood sounds like a really good sign at 7dpo no? Or is that normal for you? (I had an implantation bleed with my first baby at 9 dpo) . And isn’t your temp meant to dip slightly after implantation? Sounds promising to me! 🤞🏻

@Bizawit that's the a rubbish feeling isn't it? That panic of "is that my period" every time you wee!! Heartburn can be a good early sign apparently 🤞 not for me though as I get it as soon as I ovulate usually and then suffer for the whole tww 😂 although last cycle I didn't get any until AF was due. Bodies are cruel and misleading.

@eloiseislost sometimes you just need to eat all of the bloody chocolate and call it a day!!

7dpo for me. Am I symptom spotting? Yes! I don't usually until 9dpo+ so 😂 I have started early and irrationally as Christmas gift to myself.
I had a tiny spot of blood yesterday 😕 and then my rhr and BBT dipped this morning🙄 was hoping they'd both go up!!

Some "tww symptoms" I've not had in my tww in a while (I wonder if my body is trying to stop me from getting bored by swapping things every few cycles): nipples have gone crazy - pointy all of the time and sore against my clothes, burning feet, NO cramps, strong sense of smell. 😂 WHY is every tww so different?? Not excited but fun to obsess.
I won't be taking my BBT for the rest of the cycle as another gift to myself! Aren't I generous. 🎁

Statistically speaking with everyone else entering tww at the same time, we must be bound to see some positives!! 🤞😍

@Makingnumber2 my hubby was the same he was devastated to learn that his SA should there was a problem. It could just have easily been on my side but I think that’s why he was so determined to do it as many times as possible before we actually learned that it wasn’t making any great difference.
So many of us in the tww over Christmas, at least there will be plenty of food, chocolate etc readily available to get us tru 😅

Good luck @Bizawit - hope you get your BFP and AF doesn’t show!

Thanks @eloiseislost and @Nej1983 for your tips! I am worried I haven’t been putting the syringe near enough to my cervix.... sorry if tmi but I’m putting it as far in as it will go before I wouldn’t be able to actually syringe it and am hoping that is good enough....
great point about 12h to replenish- will tell DH this. I think he is v keen to prove he can make SI work because I think he feels guilty we need to do this route this time (which he shouldn’t feel at all) but there’s no point doing SI multiple times a day with samples that don’t have many swimmers. I am def ovulating today I think because I have terrible ov pains this morning. So hoping the SI yesterday lunchtime and again this morning will stand a good chance but who knows.
Good luck to everyone else getting their peak in next few days.
It’s good so many of us will be doing tww together. Historically I am an anxious mess during TWW which probably doesn’t help with conception so I am trying to relax and just focus on Xmas (or what’s left of it!).
Fingers crossed for lots of BFPs to lift our spirits as we move into the new year.

😂😂 he’s pretty eager tho some days you can see it’s a struggle as he’s busy with work and because I was later ovulating this month it’s been a longer fertile phase so more samples given 😅

@Nej1983 @Makingnumber2 I'm surprised your DH is willing to do more than once a day, mine is usually exhausted right after and doesn't want to even think about it until the next day! 😅

Hi @Makingnumber2
My hubby was the same when we started SI and I can understand the theory that the more times you do it the higher the chance but realistically it’s 12hrs for sperm to replenish so it’s prob only seminal fluid with very few swimmers in it the other times, that’s my take on it anyway. We’ve cut down to once a day during my fertile window and this maybe TMI but his sample has gotten larger and “thicker” than it was when he was “depositing” more than once a day so hopefully that’s a good sign 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

@Makingnumber2 The soft discs work very well for me and take away the hassle of having to wait for the sperm to liquify, then make sure to suck it all up with the syringe, then try to place the syringe near the cervix. Plus, you handle the sperm less, so in theory more swimmers survive. BUT! You definitely need to practice with them until you are comfortable inserting and taking them out. The first time I tried to take one out, I panicked thinking that I couldn't reach it! Don't be afraid though, there is nowhere for it to hide really. 🤣

@MrsKin90 I am really sorry about your Boxing Day plans, what a shit show! 💩 All our plans went down the drain too and I'm left with SO much cheese and chocolate in the house, I'm afraid I won't be able to go out the door when the lockdown finally ends.

@Bizawit 11DPO is a bit early but symptom spotting comes with the territory when you TTC! Not long left on your 2WW and I hope it ends with a BFP! 🤞🏼

@MrsKin90 thanks! I’m feeling a bit anxious about it. Getting close enough to the day AF is due to feel like I’m running the gauntlet every time I go to the loo 🙈. I didn’t take it well when af came last month, and Christmas is so ruined this year as it is that I don’t think I can take more bad news 😢. I’ve been getting a few cramps here and there so that’s not ideal. On other symptom I’ve got - which is quite unusual for me- is a bit of heartburn. But 11dpo seems a bit early for that to be a symptom.. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Really sorry to hear your Boxing Day plans are ruined 😟. Hopefully you get some good news come new year 🤞🏻🤞🏻.

Good luck to everyone getting their peak!

I can't believe you're all entering the tww at the same time!! How lovely 😊

@Makingnumber2 it's definitely a rubbish announcement! We couldn't see anyone on Xmas day for various reasons so we were going on boxing Day 🤦 life goes on I guess. There's no shame in having a cry! Crying is ultimately good for you.
I think several time a day definitely feels like over kill! Every other day is a good tactic but everyday should be fine as long as there aren't low sperm count issues etc. 😊 I hope you get your peak soon! Lots of BFPs to put a positive spin to a 💩 year would be lovely!!

@Bizawit not many days left in your tww! How are you feeling?! Fingers crossed for some Christmas magic 🤞

I'm actually not drinking this tww/over Christmas. I've pre-decided by not buying any alcohol. 🤔 Not for any particular reason other than I don't fancy it! Usually I'm a "drink until it's pink" person 🤷I'd say, do whatever makes the time easier!

Thanks so much @MrsKin90 really appreciate the info and tips! My DH seems to think we need to SI multiple times a day but I'm not sold tbh as thought when TTC traditionally the advice is sex once a day or once every other day through fertile week to allow for sperm replenishment?
I am the same as you after that announcement- in an absolutely foul mood and ashamed to say I also shed some tears (although suspect that might be more TTC stress related as today has felt a bit fraught and the announcement was just the trigger to them coming out!)
I do use OPKs and usually have a high reading on CD16- which is today for me-and bad ov pains CD17 - however I haven't had a high reading today (faint line at midday) and my OPK readings have been a bit odd this week with a faint line on CD13 and CD 15 but no line at all CD14. I have ordered a new batch of OPKs because these are same batch i used when TTC number 1 and although they're still in date I wonder if they;ve lost their magic a bit.
We will aim to SI tomorrow and Monday too.
I think if we aren't successful this cycle I will splash out on the soft discs that @eloiseislost is recommending although am nervous about using them successfully. But as you've said MrsKin I'll be more prepared and do some practice runs!

Really hoping we get lots of BFPs to start 2021- because let's be honest 2020 has been an absolute shit show in so many ways and I think we all deserve some joy!!

@Nej1983 Funny how 3 of us got our peak on the same day! 😁 Let's hope they are good eggs and meet some good sperm! Now to drink or not to drink at Christmas? 🤔 🍷

@eloiseislost & @Lori23TTC
Looks like we are all hitting our peak today! 🙌🏻
This cycle is longer for me aswell which is good I guess day 13 today as opposed to ovulating on day 11 last cycle. Fingers crossed with baby dust everywhere for 2021.

I’m sorry I can’t find the user who said their hubby was a poor SA.
My hubby was very low at his first and they told him to take the wellmans preconception tablets and while he still fluctuates its still higher than it was initially so I would recommend them, and they are often on sale on the boots 3 for 2 offers x

@MrsKin90 it’s rubbish isn’t it? 😡 so gutted.

Also on my TWW, 11dpo so AF due on Tuesday. Christmas is going to be even worse if it comes 😭

@Lori23TTC Yay, we are ovulation buddies! 🙌🏼😆 We used soft discs this time as well, as I swear them and the cough syrup got me pregnant last cycle -I could be wrong of course but I just have a very strong feeling!
Best of luck, I hope you get your BFP this cycle! 🤞🏼 🧚🏼‍♀️

@primrosechill I'll be praying for a bfp for you!! Hope your tww goes quick x

@ComebackQueen I'm glad you chased your referral. Will they confirm receipt of the emailed scan? These things often go missing or get left in a "pile of stuff" on some poor sods desk and never get dealt with. I've had this issue with every single referral I've ever had for anything!

Welcome to your tww @eloiseislost and @Lori23TTC! I hope Christmas helps it go quickly.

@Makingnumber2 welcome! Me and hubby always do a 'practice' insemination a few days earlier than needed as I find it's like making pancakes, the first one can go a bit wonky!! If you're feeling nervous I recommend it just to get used to it.
We use a menstrual cup rather a plastic pot but anything like that clean and dry is fine.
Orgasm if you can but sometimes I use that free time to relax instead if I don't feel like it'll happen.
I lie with hips raised/legs in air (depending how lazy I'm feeling) for about 15 minutes. I'd say 15-20 is probably fine. It isn't necessary after sex but I'd say probably necessary for SI to give those swimmers an extra chance.
We've been trying to aim for every other day but usually just do what we can. Before ovulation is the most important time with one day and two days before being most effective. Are you using OPKs to track?

I'm 6dpo, so AF due somewhere around NYE. Won't that be just fucking lovely?!

I started this reply ages ago and then just had the Christmas Rules Change news and feel furious! Rightly or wrongly. I'm being very melodramatic now and don't feel like doing anything at all for the rest of the year. The tee can come down as far as I'm concerned. Was about to bake/build a gingerbread house. Might just bloody eat the dough.

@Makingnumber2 hi! I can tell you what I do- but don’t know if it’s correct?!

• use a disposable container or soft cup. Use a fresh one each time.
• yes definitely orgasm if you can. Apparently it can help suck the sperm up into the cervix
• I usually lie with my legs in the air for about 15-20 mins, but no idea if it’s necessary.
• I usually do everyday in the fertile weeks, and sometimes even twice on OPK peak days, but that’s possibly overkill 😆