The Turkey Baster Gang (gobble gobble)

Hey all,

Thanks for the welcomes happy to be joining you all!

I’ve read through all the posts & have to say I did LOL at the hip thrusting and moving about with legs in the air... I was doing this myself this morning and before reading I thought ‘I’ve officially lost it ’ so glad to know I am not the only one!

So we DTD this morning first time SI, went ok I think! Did feel like a bit of a military operation but think we just felt panicked and trying to remember all the steps. I must have watched a YouTube video explaining it all at least 10 times!!

Can I ask how long you stay with legs up for? Mine were up for about 40 mins and I then used the ferti-lily conception cup to help keep the goods in place lol.. but when I removed it felt like everything came out?! wondering if
I didn’t sit for long enough? We used pre seed but also heard good things about conceive plus?

Fingers crossed.. although not expecting a miracle in the first month. We will keep trying daily throughout my fertile window- luckily I’m off work until 5th Jan so have the time and energy! I don’t do temping, but use the ovulation sticks and my app. I also know due to CM too (sorry TMI!).

xxx

@MrsKin90 sorry about your RHR- I never know what;s worse, getting the heads up early that it isn't a BFP this cycle or finding out at end of the tww. Either way feels pretty shit tbh. Sending you hugs- sounds like it's an emotional time for you at the moment, so just be kind to yourself and take one day at a time (or even 1 hour at a time if you're feeling really overwhelmed). I think of a positive note you can consider yourself a walking miracle because you died for an hour overnight and rose again.... (JC might have some competition here I think!)
@eloiseislost hope you aren't being struck down with a lurgy - there's so much of it going about at the moment. Get on the Zinc and Vitamin C and rest up!

@MrsKin90 sorry to hear about your RHR dip! And sending you big hugs on your mum’s birthday - must be hard. My BBT dipped this morning too so any last bits of hope that I had of the cramping/spotting being a sign of implantation are officially gone. I just want AF to show up now to get on with it - I have an exciting day of sitting on a couch doing absolutely nothing planned for her 😆

@eloiseislost hope you’re not coming down with something nasty - take care! Back lit thermometer sounds amazing - I always take my temperature when it’s still dark in the room and end up needing to shine my phone light on it (and waking up/irritating the crap out of my husband 😂)

Positive vibes are always welcome 😊😊
According to my Fitbit, I died in the night as it didn't record a heart rate for over an hour 😂 so it could be worse.
I've not tried soft discs but I use a menstrual cup during AF anyway, so I am used to the messy cleaning 😳😂 It's getting it in the right place I worry about!
I've just had an emotional breakdown about my weight being so out of control. If I wasn't sure AF was coming I know for sure now! 😆

@MrsKin90 Sometimes it helps to have other things to think about before/during AF, sometimes it makes it worse. I find it varies from cycle to cycle and the circumstances. Sending some positive vibes your way, they probably won't make a difference really but I'm thinking of you. 💜

I didn't know about the intima ziggy cup, it looks perfect for TTC! In my experience, no matter how big these things look, they fit fine once they are in! Have you tried soft discs before?
The rim on this may be softer than soft discs, so maybe it's slightly bigger to ensure a tight seal?
I'm intrigued! Though the idea of having to clean it after each use… 🤢 On the other hand, the environment! 🌲🐝🌺

@eloiseislost I didn't realise you weren't further into the tww when I was banging on about dips in rhr 😂 an increase now can be a good sign! 😊 Sorry you're feeling rough. Hopefully all for good reasons?! Fingers tightly crossed.

I'm okay 😊 I'll be upset for a bit when AF starts properly but I already know she's on the way. It's been a rough year and It's my mum's birthday this week so I've got enough emotional things going on without getting upset about AF. My friend also has her first baby scan this week...
Thank you for your lovely kindness as always.

That thermometer looks amazing 😂
I was considering getting an "intimina Ziggy cup" though, which is like a reusable soft disc? Although it looks a bit bigger. 🤔

@MrsKin90 I'm so sorry to hear that, I do hope it's not true, but I know exactly how you feel. Sometimes you just know it's AF. 😔 Take care of yourself, be kind to yourself, it's another step in the journey even though it now feels like a disaster. New year, new hope in a few days! 💗

I'm feeling absolutely terrible today, fatigued, nauseous and achy and my RHR has shot up to 86 from 70 yesterday! I wish these were a "good signs" but, at 7DPO, it's more likely I'm coming down with a bug or something. 🤒

This is the thermometer I was considering: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07S3VG2LH/ref=cmswwrcppapifabcc69z6Fb41A7TMQ?encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I have no real need for it, but buying things I don't need is how I cope since the pandemic started! 🤣

AF is definitely on the way 😒 late but on the way. I had bright pink spotting yesterday and my RHR went down by two this morning and my cramps are horrendous. So. Another month bites the dust I guess!

@eloiseislost ooh that thermometer sounds fancy. I probably need a new one lol. I hope AF isn't on the way for you but my RHR is never wrong when it goes down 🙁 I wonder if I'd be better off not wearing it at the end of the tww.

@Sydney1986x welcome 😊 Goodluck for this cycle. Fingers crossed for you.

@MrsKin90 You're right, RHR is nowhere near as established as BBT, I track both trying to see if they "agree" and so far I've been impressed. But I would never rely solely on RHR. Speaking of which, it dipped today, so did BBT, and I have a few cramps and nausea so I think AF is closing in. 😞
To cheer myself up, I decided to buy a backlit, Bluetooth BBT thermometer for the next cycle! 😆

@Sydney1986x Welcome! Lots of information here and everyone is so lovely, always willing to help and offer emotional support. ❤️ Best of luck!

Hello,

Hope it is ok to join? I am new to
Mums net and found some threads via google.

So pleased and relieved there are people in the same boat as us... it is so isolating and lonely! My H2B and I have been trying for over 18 months, we took ‘a break’ from TTC sept - Dec due to the stress of it all. We are trying again in a couple of days as ovulation is soon.

We are awaiting further investigations via the NHS and on a long wait list. We are going to give home insem a go.. for a number of reasons. everything is bought and will be trying for the first time in the next few days. We have bought pre seed but heard good things about conceive plus too?

Hope everyone is ok and had a good Christmas x

Hope everyone had the best possible Christmas.

I'm just going into tww. Hoping to stay a lot more chilled as last month I went a bit ott with testing
I've tried recording bbt this month too but I never wake up at the same time and can't bring myself to set an alarm on my days off work so the temperatures are all over the place.

@primrosechill I honestly didn't feel too bad about the bfn 😊 I'm happy to hear that AF hasn't started for you yet. Are you keeping yourself distracted?? Hopefully she stays away!

Thanks @eloiseislost 😊 I'm hoping my RHR is a good sign, but not feeling very positive about the headaches I'm getting. I don't usually get them before AF but they're not a pre-bfp symptom either!
And you're right, I do have a Fitbit! It's really interesting but also very individual. I always have an increase after I ovulate but a lot of people seem to have a rise, then ovulate, then have a big dip immediately after followed by rises, so it's not stuck to standard "rules" like BBT! I still use BBT to confirm O. Almost everyone has a big decrease when AF is starting though so that seems to be quite universal.

So excited for everyone entering their second week of their tww and for those ever so close to testing!

@Makingnumber2 Far from a guru, but I love charts and graphs and making sense out of them; there's something oddly reassuring about it -but it might just be my funny brain! Happy temping! 🌡

Hi all, welcome @Bluey18. @MrsKin90 and @eloiseislost that's really interesting about the heart rate. I've got a garmin, so will have a look at what it says about my rhr. Lately though I do sometimes feel like my heart is racing, for no particular reason.

Sorry to jump in about the thermometer, but I have literally just bought a bbt about an hour ago, so thank you @eloiseislost for the advice re when to start using it!

My CB opk has shown a flashing smiley (estrogen) for about a week now, but no solid smiley (lh peak) yet. My cheapies haven't shown an lh spike yet either. I know I shouldn't be worried, but got that little niggle in the back of my head that no lh means no ovulation, so that's been fun! 🙄 I figure if nothing else, the bbt will help build up the picture for when we eventually get to go to the clinic...

Hope you're all ok! I'm off for a walk soon round a park with my best friend, so that will be really nice x

@eloiseislost Thank you so much! It is great to have BBT Guru on the thread!!

@Makingnumber2 I would wait until CD1, but there's no harm in starting now either! Some women notice very erratic temps during their period so they start temping after AF is gone, but for your first cycle I recommend temping every day from the start, so you get to know your own patterns. Best of luck and if in doubt, post your charts here, I know I love a good chart chat! 😆

Thanks @eloiseislost that's really helpful info I think I'll move to BBT from next cycle as I haven't tried that yet and have a BBT thermometer in the house and ready to go. Is there any point in started BBT tracking from now (CD21)? Or is it best to wait til CD1?

@Makingnumber2 You need a smartwatch or fitness band that has continuous heart rate monitoring. I have an Apple Watch and I think @MrsKin90 has a FitBit. The Fitbit is much better at calculating RHR I have to say, because it recognises naps and excludes them from the measurements. My Apple Watch readings are a bit all over the place, but I can still see the overall trend.
I would not advise anyone to get a fitness band just for the sake of tracking RHR for fertility purposes, as BBT is still the most reliable method to confirm ovulation with a wealth of research to back it up. There are some studies emerging regarding RHR and fertility but they are limited and few at the moment. Even though I am confident I recognise a pattern for myself, I'm still an anecdotal case and what works for me may very well not work for others.
Having said all that, since I got my Apple Watch I've been waaaay more active and I exercise more, so it's been a good motivator! If you want to be more active and at the same time do some of your own research on RHR, you could have a look at smartwatches/fitness bands, it's probably worth it! 😊

@Bluey18 I think we must be same DPOs then! I always tell myself I'll wait until I've missed AF and then it gets to 10/11DPO and the cheapie test strips just call my name too loudly [grins]

Thank you all . Halfway through 2ww today and telling myself I'll wait until 14dpo to test. We'll see if I can stick to that haha. Best of luck everyone!

Welcome @Bluey18! My DH also has DE- this thread has been amazing in making me feel like we are not alone with this problem and also giving us hope that we will have a chance to conceive still with SI.
Wishing you lots of luck with this first cycle
@MrsKin90 and @eloiseislost I had no idea RHR could be tracked and used when TTC- very interesting!
At risk of sounding like a total imbecile... how are you taking your RHR? Do you do it manually or do you wear a fit bit or similar to do it?
I feel like atm my RHR is constantly high because my anxiety has been sky high through all of Christmas- unfortunately it always seems like this during the TWW, no matter how hard I try to keep it down.

@MrsKin90 I'm actually better than I thought I would be, thank you! 😘 Don't get me wrong, it sucks so much that I'm no longer pregnant but I'm trying, and mostly succeeding, to look to the future rather than the past. I'm sure the copious amounts of cheese and chocolate helped! 😆
You RHR chart looks amazing! This was mine from the previous cycle, I'm convinced it's as good as BBT in alerting me to what's happening. (It also sadly indicated my MC with frightening accuracy.) I'm very hopeful looking at yours, keeping everything crossed! 🤞🏼 🧚🏼‍♀️

(Sorry for a gazillion of spelling and grammar mistakes - typing on my phone while multitasking haha)

@MrsKin90 sorry you got a bfn - like someone else said, it’s never nice to see that lonesome line, even if it’s not yet definitive - but hoping that your heart rate is a good sign!

@eloiseislost swnding you lots of love this december. On christmas day, I couldn’t help but think that if my Marxh pregnancy has stuck, I would have been celebrating with a little bubba and how different this holiday would have been. Then again I also realised I would have been given birth as London was about to go into tier 4 and how incredibly stressful and lonely that would have been! 😬 gotta look on the bright side, always.

AF did the polite thing at least and didn’t visit during christmas. I’m still cramping so expecting her to arrive any minute now, though! Big love to you all and hoping for some good news soon xxx

@eloiseislost I really do hope you're okay. It's such a hard time of year anyway but with your miscarriage on top of that it can't be easy. I hope you get a bfp this cycle.

@Bluey18 welcome 😊 my hubby has DE as well. It's lovely and positive your DH finally agreed to SI and you're feeling positive!! Fingers crossed for you it happens quickly 😊

I've stopped taking my BBT after 6dpo for my sanity but here is a picture of my resting heart rate at 14dpo. It usually goes down the day before AF. It rose like this last cycle and my period started three days late so I feel like it's teasing me. It's gone so high up now though 🧐 if I get my period I'm going to be so angry 😂 I am having cramps though and have headaches for three days so I won't hold my breath 🤨

Looking forward to some positive news for us all! The new year isn't far away 😊