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Anyone experienced faint lines every month but not pg?

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walkingout101 · 12/10/2020 13:47

Every month for 3 months now I have gotten faint lines on IC tests from about 6dpo til after AF arrives. I'm wondering if its the tests? I haven't gotten anything on frer or any other tests.

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SirVixofVixHall · 26/10/2020 14:40

It is annoyingly difficult to stick to a diet that helps ! I try and limit sweets and refined carbs to weekends only, but it is hard.

walkingout101 · 26/10/2020 14:33

@SirVixofVixHall So much of what you've said resonates with me. I've always been a 'tired' person but since I had my son its ridiculous. I can sleep 11 hours a night and still need a nap during the day. Sugar makes it worse, carbs make it worse. I've also got low vitD and lowB12, which I'm working on.

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SirVixofVixHall · 26/10/2020 14:25

Well I do still really struggle with fatigue, up and down. My vitamin D was almost nothing so I am trying to improve that. According to my dc’s doctor ( she has the same thing) auto immune disease is tiring in and of itself. I am definitely better than I was before thyroxine supplementation though, and not all people with thyroid disease feel so fatigued, I have four friends with it too, and we all vary. I find diet makes a difference, keeping off sugar and starchy carbs, but when I am in a v tired patch, which I am now, it is perversely difficult to stick to that as being tired also makes me crave sugar.
I also have coeliac disease and it is worth asking them to check for that when you next have bloods done as they can go together, and you can have no obvious symptoms.
Your adrenals take up the slack when your thyroid is failing, so I think my ten years of not being helped has affected my whole system and makes me more prone to exhaustion, so I am v keen for other women to get helped speedily. My Mum took over twenty years to get a diagnosis as her GP totally dismissed her tiredness, low mood and weight gain.

walkingout101 · 26/10/2020 14:12

Thanks for this @SirVixofVixHall I will push on. I'm sorry to hear you were so unwell with it, I can only imagine how awful you felt. Are you doing ok now?

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SirVixofVixHall · 26/10/2020 14:10

Levels do go up and down, but antibodies plus your previous TSH being higher shows auto Immune disease and although you will have patches where your TSH drops a bit, the overall trajectory will be your thyroid function getting weaker over time. I spent ten years going back and forth to several different GPs, in all that time nobody tested me for antibodies, and I was fobbed off with “fine” even though I know my levels were not fine. Even when pregnant with a TSH of 9, I was fobbed off and didn’t get medicated until I had been really unwell for a year, unable to walk up a hill without my heart going crazy, sitting about flat and exhausted all the time. I was only taken seriously and put on meds after a random thyroid test when I fell and passed out. My TSH then was almost 30.
So don’t be fobbed off, a good GP should be looking at how you feel as well as your levels.

walkingout101 · 26/10/2020 13:56

@SirVixofVixHall hi! I just wanted to report back.

I had my thyroid re-tested and TSH has gone up to 2.5, which may explain whats been going on. Weirdly T4 was better at 15. Antibodies have got even higher though, now at 123.

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SirVixofVixHall · 13/10/2020 23:12

You have autoimmune thyroid issues, your thyroxine levels are a bit low, and your TSH is creeping up.
Get tested as early as possible in the day.
When you have active thyroid disease you ideally want your T4 to be in the top third of the range , and your TSH to be under 2, many people feel best when it is between 0.5 and 1.
Yours is only just under 2 there.

eloiseislost · 13/10/2020 22:34

@walkingout101 I found this that seems to explain it, sounds like it is possible to have cysts every cycle and they are pretty much harmless.

intermountainhealthcare.org/blogs/topics/live-well/2018/02/ovary-pain-understanding-ovarian-cysts/

www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320433

I hope this helps!

walkingout101 · 13/10/2020 21:41

@eloiseislost Nono, not at all - I appreciate your input very much! I wonder how common it is to get these cysts every month.

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eloiseislost · 13/10/2020 21:22

@walkingout101 I hope you didn't take any offence, I didn't mean to imply that you are imagining pregnancy symptoms! Especially since I hold out hope that I might still be pregnant even when I'm on my period!! I actually tested after my last period was over because I still felt bloated! 🤦🏻‍♀️ 🤣
Actually, corpus luteum cysts can cause positive pregnancy tests and since you have a history, maybe your GP will investigate further! I'm sure that whatever it is, it will be an easy fix. The most frustrating part is trying to find out.

walkingout101 · 13/10/2020 20:44

@eloiseislost I completely agree with you, I don't for one second think I am actually pregnant, although the first time round I did wonder. It is curious. I spoke to my gp at the beginning of the month, I didn't mention the lines on the tests then as it'd happened twice so I thought maybe a fluke or weirdness. I explained my symptoms though and she did think perhaps I have hyperovulation, hence why I am feeling ovulation type pain at various times in my cycle and my hormones are everywhere. I wonder if it is ovulation being picked up, or perhaps something to do with the corpus luteum, which I know can form into a cyst - as I was hospitalised with a large and painful one before.

@Livingmagicallyagain My actual results (albeit a year old now) are:

TSH 1.76 mIU/L (Range: 0.27 - 4.2)

Free T3 4.16 pmol/L (Range: 3.1 - 6.8)

Free Thyroxine 14.900 pmol/L (Range: 12 - 22)

Thyroglobulin Antibodies 24.100 kIU/L (Range: < 115)

Thyroid Peroxidase Antibodies X 88.8 kIU/L (Range: < 34)

I am going to order a new test for this however, as I did mean to test again in 6 months time.

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SirVixofVixHall · 13/10/2020 19:46

Yes I agree with Living you need to ask what your TSH was. I went back and forth to the GP for TEN YEARS being told my thyroid levels were fine, when I really didn’t feel fine. Nobody even bothered to test my antibodies, until I passed out for another reason and the hospital ran bloods. Now I know my levels were not fine for me, and not fine for someone with antibodies who has active thyroid disease.

Livingmagicallyagain · 13/10/2020 19:27

What was your actual TSH? Mine was well within lab ranges. But far from the level needed to concieve.

eloiseislost · 13/10/2020 17:23

@walkingout101 Definitely push for investigations. GPS can be very dismissive, they need a gentle push to the right direction more often than not, unfortunately.

7, 8 and even 9DPO are too early to be getting positives even if you have conceived as implantation is most likely to happen at 9DPO and then it takes a couple of days for the levels to be detectable by an HPT. I have another theory and I could be totally wrong but here goes: you know how an OPK can give a positive result if you're pregnant? I wonder if the reverse can also happen: if a HPT can give a positive result if you are ovulating. Given that you say your period is a week or so late after the faint lines, could it be that you ovulate later than you thought? Are you temping, observing CM, etc?

Also, the pregnancy symptoms you describe can also be normal pre-AF symptoms. This is why the 2WW is such an excruciating time, it is so tempting to symptom-spot! Up until implantation has been completed to the point that the fetus is using your blood supply, hormones in your body go about their business as usual, i.e.: preparing for AF. I know that women describe feeling different, however, when a pregnancy is confirmed, all those symptoms are viewed in retrospect. I've had random cycles where my symptoms felt different and unusual and I wasn't TTC and I wasn't pregnant. Every cycle can be different as our hormonal balance is affected by many extrinsic factors every month.

I hope you get to the bottom of this soon! Best of luck!

walkingout101 · 13/10/2020 16:52

@daisychain1620 are you having pregnancy symptoms along with the tests at all?

I tested yesterday and today and again - faint lines. 7 and 8 dpo. I don't think I'm pregnant because it's been the same for 3 months in a row now, I get the sore boobs, nausea and tiredness and then AF turns up about a week late. I never get decent lines on the tests tho, just shadows. Yours are a lot darker. I would push your GP to be honest, it warrants investigation.

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daisychain1620 · 13/10/2020 16:31

Walkingout101, I will probably go back to GP at some point. They weren't really interested when I asked them if the positive tests could indicate something else and I don't have any other real symptoms so I don't want to waste their time but it is strange.
It is good to hear from someone going through similar. Have you tested again recently?

walkingout101 · 13/10/2020 15:05

@ivfbeenbusy I'm 33, I don't suppose it can be ruled out. I've had so many other weird symptoms too.

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walkingout101 · 13/10/2020 15:03

Ok this is all very interesting. Back in January I had a thyroid test and my antibodies were raised, which can sometimes be indicative of a thyroid problem further down the line, however my tsh was fine at that point. I've been meaning to get it re-tested. I'm going to do that right away.

Thanks so much for all the replies.

@daisychain1620 nice to hear that someone is in similar boat, will you see your gp do you think?

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Waiting4another · 13/10/2020 13:17

Definitely check with a GP OP and bring a test to show the GP (or even a few) there are some medical conditions that can consistently cause false positives and you would want these ruled out...

ellenpartridge · 13/10/2020 12:44

As well as thyroid issues this could also be low progesterone preventing implantation. I would ask for progesterone bloods at 7dpo.

daisychain1620 · 13/10/2020 12:30

Yes but they're the same lines I was getting for weeks back in the summer, GP bloods confirmed I wasn't pregnant. So weird isn't it?

SirVixofVixHall · 13/10/2020 12:27

Definite line there Daisy
Op I also wonder if you are not getting successful implantation ? As pp said, worth getting your thyroid checked.

daisychain1620 · 13/10/2020 12:25

This was my frer from a few days ago. I dipped one in water and there was no hint of a second line.

Anyone experienced faint lines every month but not pg?
daisychain1620 · 13/10/2020 11:46

This is happening to me too! I had previously started a few other threads. In June and July I thought I was pregnant but GP confirmed I wasn't. I used FRER (about 29 million!) Boots own, Clear blue and Answer all with slight lines.
Back in July i then dipped one FRER into water which also brought up a line so I just thought they must all have been faulty and put it to the back of my mind.
For some reason I tested again last week with a FRER and got a line. I dipped the second in water and it was pure white! I was thinking menopause related but I'm only 41.
I have ordered the little strip tests to see if they show anything.
Sorry for the long post!

ivfbeenbusy · 12/10/2020 20:57

How old are you OP? This can also happen If you are menopausal