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anyone remember basilbrush? Qs on recurrent m/c tests

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basilbrush · 01/10/2007 12:34

Hello ladies -

I've been Mumsnet Free for 2 months now but found an inescabaple urge to log on

For those of you who don't know me, have been TTC No.2 this year and have m/c twice in March at 7 weeks and July at 10 weeks.

Was going to take a BD break till New Year but you know how it is, the little voice in your head (or maybe your ovaries!) talks you into thinking about going for it again.

Have had one AF since m/c and am just about to have another. All that progesterone is probably why I feel so weepy. I visited my friend's new born yesterday, picked him up and burst into tears. Rather embarassing

Obviously the standard line I got from EPU and GP was "we don't do any tests after 2 m/c, you'll very likely be fine next time, go away".

But I have been reading up (Zita West, Lesley Reagan) and I am starting to get worried and wondering if I should convince DH to get some private tests done before we rush into a potential 3rd m/c

My questions / concerns are:

  1. The "oh well you've had one child, you must be okay" is a myth. Apparently you have the LOWEST rate of m/c with your first child (only 5%)
  2. If I have some sort of autoimmune problem that is causing the fetus to be rejected,(maybe helped by heparin injections) then this gets worse with every subsequent pregnancy. So a 3rd m/c would lower my chances even further.
  3. Autoimmune probs are rare but they focus on the placenta and in a milder form cause problems when the baby is well into pregnancy. I suffered placental abruption with DS and the said when they removed it that it was very small and had not been nourishing him properly for the last couple of weeks. This is why he only weighed 5lbs at full term. This is why I am concerned I may have this type of problem... 4.Similary a m/c after a fetal heartbeat has been found (as in my case with second m/c) indicates strongly that there wasn't a genetic problem with baby but rather a problem with the mother in some way 5.My other different concern is that I did have a "very" emergency C-section with DS (the consultant said it was the fastest he'd ever seen!)and I'm worried my uterus may be scarred or damaged in some way. All the GPs have been at great pains to deny that a CS could ever affect further early pregnancies but I do have a colleague who took 10 years to get No.2 (!) and she was told her by her specialist that her womb had been damaged by the first delivery and that it had needed all that time to recover

Anyway, sorry all that must make me look like a bit of a psycho... I just have so many questions and am SOOOOOOO scared of a 3rd m/c

Do you think I'm paranoid and should just get on with TTC or should I try and get tests done??

I would esp love to hear from anyone who's had two m/c (maybe where a fetal heart was seen)and then went on to do it third time lucky

Many thanks for reading
BB xx

OP posts:
torres · 01/10/2007 13:39

Hi basil- I had been wondering how you were getting on.

You do not look like a psycho at all. I think getting answers is a way to feel more in control and will help you reduce stress and thus help ttc. I think it will also make you feel more empowered if you believe you have done everything you can to help your next pregnancy.

I got super paranoid about all the twinges and aches after the ERPC and convinced they had done some structural damage so I went for a private scan for peace of mind.

If you can find a private consultant I think it would be really helpful to chat through your worries and he/she can then recommend the best tests for you.

Sending you a big hug xx

Original poster
basilbrush · 01/10/2007 13:35

Hi Speckle

Yes, I think you are right. If I could get tested for autoimmune problems at least I a) relax and forget about it if tests are negative b) get treated if there is a problem

At any rate, I might feel a bit more in charge of the whole situation. You know, empowered man. And skint

Have also heard that some women who have boys have problems hanging on to subsequent female babies (again an autoimmune thing) - hope it's not that causing my problem

Yay for you! in 13 weeks you'll have a baby Congrats!

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becklespeckle · 01/10/2007 13:26

Hi BB, saw the thread title and had to pop on to say hi!
Its totally understandable to be concerned about having another m/c, I was terrified with this pg that it would be my 3rd in a row - it is a devestating thing. A fetal heart was seen during my first pg but my baby died at 12.5 weeks. I then went on to have 2 healthy boys before 2 missed m/c last year - both quite early but did not find out until 12 weeks. I am now 27 weeks pg and (touch wood) things seem to be going well.
If you can go private for some tests or even just a chat with someone professional to get your questions answered then I definitely would.
Once you have had a m/c it takes a lot of the enjoyment and excitement out of future pgs. I still now can't quite believe I will have a baby at the end of this pg and the first 14 weeks were soooo tough mentally. Perhaps having some reassurance and your questions answered would make this part easier.
Big hugs x

Original poster
basilbrush · 01/10/2007 13:20

Hi nh101

Congrats on your BFP, what great news I will keep everything crossed for you...

The info was in Lesley Regan's What every woman should now about miscarriage, an excellent book

Love BB xx

PS JJ, thank you, you are a star, have emailed you

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HuwEdwards · 01/10/2007 13:14

BB - my lovely friend suffered 2 miscarriages within a few months. She's now due to give birth next month .

nh101 · 01/10/2007 13:12

Hi Basilbrush! I was thinking of you recently cos I am now pg again after MC in March and terrified it will go wrong again (I am only five weeks gone) and remember that you got PG a few months ago and was so devastated to be back on the TTC after MC thread again afterwards.

Sorry to hear you are still in turmoil over this bastard ttc lark!

I went to a private consultant about my missing periods after MC (GP just said that it was stress) and I am so glad I did cos he put me on Clomid and now I am PG. If I'd taken the GP's advice I'd probably still be waiting for my period to come!

So I would say if it is stressing you out, go to see someone privately about it. But the chances are next time you get PG you will be fine. If you can put it to the back of your mind, then do, but I couldn't and going to see the private consultant was a godsend for my sanity.

I had a MC at 13 weeks after the heartbeat had been heard at 10 weeks - I also thought this was unlikely to be genetic as I'd seen all the baby's arms and legs at the scan! Where have you seen info on this being a problem with the mother? I'd be interested in reading up on it.

Keep us informed on what you do!

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