The 2ww Symptom Spotting continues....

Good morning everyone. Hope everyone is feeling a bit better today - sounds like we were all fed-up one way or another yesterday.

Thanks to everyone who allowed me to whinge yesterday! I think it's great to have a place where we can all be honest with how we feel.

Bucky Don't apologise for moaning - i wish i had something really helpful to offer regarding your social life, but the only thing that sprang to mind was the evening class / course / voluntary work type thing that someone else has already suggested. And don't worry about the G&T's - i'm sure that won't hurt!

pixie hope you are feeling a bit better today. I think it's natural to feel insecure at times, i know i certainly do. And anyway,i think that as a woman, on this ttc mission, a tantrum from time to time is compulsory!!

Well, i felt generally emotional yesterday, which wasn't helped by the fact that we went to a christening in the afternoon. The place was full of babies!! I don't know if other people have felt like this, but i couldn't bring myself to cuddle the baby in question at that point. I do feel guilty that i felt so sorry for myself yesterday. I know lots of you here are trying for your 1st, and i have been very fortunate in that i have 2dc already. I just can't help hoping that new DH and myself will be able to have one together. It would mean the world to me to have a child with this man i love and give him the gift of being a parent. Although i've done this ttc thing before, obviously, it feels like the first time in some ways, as last time was 11 years ago. I also panic that i'm too old now!

Sorry, i'm rambling, i just wanted to acknowledge that despite my sorrowful state yesterday i realise i'm lucky to have the dc children i already have, and i don't want to upset / offend other people by appearing otherwise. Does that make any sense???!!

So CD2 now, and i have made some resolutions...

1. I will only check my cervix once a day. it can't change more frequently than that.

2. I will NOT test early this month.

3. If i fail to keep to no. 2. I will definitely not go out and buy a different brand of test immediately to see if that is more "accurate"

4. If i test and get a BFN, i will then not retrieve the test from the bin after an hour, pull the test apart, peer at the strip in every possible light, and convince myself there is a line.

5. I will not constantly lift my top and peer down my bra looking for nipple changes.

6. i will not do 4. and 5. whilst driving. It attracts strange looks and may be dangerous.

Ladies - it is your duty to help me keep to these!

My DH may disagree with you!! Glad to be out rambled (is that a word?) any day!

OOps, I type too fast for my hands???
eh?
Anyway, ramblings not amblings
Though I do amble, drives my sister insane, she power walks.
why???

Glad that I am making someone with my amblings
But you really should not be apologising for yours 07mum, call that a ramble?...pah!!! I laugh in the face of your feeble attempt, haha

I put this on the Oct thread but thought as I'm now in the 2WW you may have some ideas?

Can anyone help, I'm confused again!

I'm CD14, had EWCM Thurs, did one and only OV test today (wasn't going to bother but had a moment of inspiration at FME) and it seemed to show OV (I didn't get face as you all seem to mention, which type would that be? I used ClearBlue) Despite poor DH's man flu and my cold BD'd Thurs, Fri and today. My query is sorry TMI alert that I had slight show of blood afterwards. Has anyone else experienced this? Any ideas?

Also I always seem to get a cold/sinus problems around OV? Is this coincidence or has anyone discovered this?

Do you know I consider myself to be reasonably inteligent (well Almost) but when it comes to all this I find I'm a fish out of water. Sometimes there are just no answers and I have to be patient.

Sorry I'm going on again, any guidance much appreciated.

Oh FS you do make me I like your rambling . Sounds like you and DH got a great compromise today.

Bucky I see how you've moved around now. I met a lady at toddler group who's husband is in the armed forces and she moves every 3 years. She's a lovely lady but I doubt if we'll keep in touch when she's gone as havent got to know each other that well. She's expecing her 3rd DD any day now, I don't know how she does it as her family live far away aswell. Do you think you'll stay put this time?

I lived in the same town for 31 years then moved in with DH 3 yrs ago knowing a couple of his friends wives since then I've so many friends I struggle to have a morning in to do the ironing and that is down to ante-natal classes and toddler groups. I've been so lucky with the people I've met and children really seem to help you be in the right social situations. I hope you are as fortunate with your groups.

God I've gone on yet again! Talk about ramble.

Awwww, its been a rough old day in the 2WW thread today, how is everyone feeling this evening?

Madoldbird sorry to hear about bfn followed by af - double bugger.

Bucky - surely you don't have time for a hobby with MN to keep you occupied?! Have you thought about doing a course or something? I did one a few years ago in photography and loved it - it sounds like you enjoy being outside so you should do something connected. How about volunteer work of some description? Like helping out at a nearby nature reserve or something? Sorry, prob nothing helpful in there at all (as I don't really know you!) but just trying to suggest some things.

Fairy sounds like DH came good in the end - I quite often have arguments discussions with my DH - sadly I'm a bit spoilt as I generally get my own way with him (I think more for an easy life on his part!!!)

Shrek hows the jam??

I'm still suffering from af style cramps, sore boobs (altho not as sore as a few days ago ) and the need to eat everything in sight! Am pretty sure af will turn up soon. BFN this morning so rapidly losing hope for this month.

Oh dear, poor pixie fairy is flying around your head sprinkling sparkly happy dust^
I too can be very resentful of DH if he has had a night out and is then left in his lazy pit whilst I have to go to work, admittedly it has been a while, but I remember it well. I think that is pos where most of your resentments come from?
That and having to clean the house, after a days work, whilst he plays with cars. DH hates it when I say he is playing, 'would you rather the garage bill, fairy?'
Blah bla, it's all fun and games to him

I am sure he can be trusted though? I hope so, but can't comment on it.

I was feeling that I was being taken for granted this weekend too, what with his late night on Friday, he wanted to go for an hour on sat (but changed his mind, only cos he was too lazy though OK, to be fair to him it was cos he wanted to spend time with DD and I) But then he wanted to go this afternoon too. Which would have been fine, he norm goes when DD is sleepin, but she did not sleep long today. I was well gutted, I was looking forward to a nice bath. But he wanted to go to the pub anyway and leave me dealing with DD. So I wouldn't get my bath but he was still gonna go for his pint anyway?
Arguments Discussions ensued and we agreed he would go but then, as soon as he got back, I was upstairs for my bath. No if buts or maybes.
To his credit, DD was fed and in her bed clothes before I took over so he can watch topgear.

So not a bad day in the end

what a ramble!!

I hope your DH has made it up to you when you got home pixie
Perhaps you should have an argument discussion, telling him about your fears?

Message withdrawn

Pixie04 forgot to say as DP was out last night and you are now working and doing a food shop perhaps he could do the cleaning?

Oh dear what a lot of people out there.

Digitalgirl Sorry BFN. ANy signs of TEW yet or is there still hope?

madoldbird Sorry for BFN You are intitled to be whingey if you want! I get symptoms which make me be hopeful to be PG when AF due but they can be so similar to PMS sometimes!

Bucky Why have you moved around so often? I'm sorry to hear you don't have any RL friend close by to confide in but we are always here for you. Hope you feel better soon.

Pixie04 Recently posted here (think it was to FS) that I'm insecure and my mind can go mad. I only got married to DH last December and since then I'm so much better (even though we lived together 3 yrs and have 1 DD) but before that I would suspect the worst and imagine all sorts of things which were probably even a dream by his standards

Hope you all start to feel better soon.

I forgot to mention I haven't acctually seen DP awake yet this morning all of this rage is completley unprovoked. Yes I am a physco Now I just feel guilty for being angry at a sleeping man...!? I hate hormones I hate hormones

PS pixie is bright red in the face and is stomping her little pointed toed shoes, you know the pair, the ones with the bells on. I am in grave danger of throwing a full on tantrum without due cause..is this a criminal offence?

I'm feeling crap today too. Heres my self absorbed post:

DP went out last night and whilst I don't know that he was flirty with other women I do know he has a lot of female friends none of whomb I've met. DP and I don't go out drinking together mainly because I'm a homebody and Im not a big drinker especially now that were ttc. Not just that but his friends aren't my kind of people.

Whilst to my knowledge nothing has happened and I don't think it would I feel very hormonal and insecure today and want to have a go at DP for having so many bloddy female friends when I'm at home feeling fat and unattractive on my own while he's out drinking. I'm having one of those days where he can't say anything right and everything he does points to him taking me for granted. I want to go home and sulk but instead I'm at work and when I finish I have to go and do the food shopping then clean our disgusting pit of a house before I can sulk meanwhile DP hangs out at the garage fixing his stupid bloody car...

Rant over sorry everyone.

Just popped on for a quick flick through, DG so to hear it was a BFN - as others have said it may not be a definite no yet, lets hope.

Well, yesterday morning there still was no sign of AF, so rushed and got a test, feeling quite hopeful. However that was a BFN, and now AF started this morning. Have had to accept that bigger boobs, tingling nipples, nausea etc really do mean very little in my case. Felt a bit miserable, but on to the next cycle i suppose! Have heard talk of EPO, pineapple juice etc being benefical - i need to read up on why, but want to try everything i can. May go for OPKs this month as well, although i have come on more or less at the right time, which probably means that we did it at the right time, but that it just didn't work!

Sorry to be whingy (sp?) today, hope everyone else is ok - lets hope someone gets some good news soon!!

thanks pixie I'm off out tonight, might have a glass of champers to see my friend off (she's emigrating) but still hoping.

got metal mouth, my body is playing a cruel trick on me this week. brown cm last friday, 48hr bug on monday, disappearing cervix ewcm, sore nips, ewcm (again), reappearing cervix, now metal mouth.

I'm ignoring all cramps I've had/am having, as I had loads of cramps last cycle which meant nothing.

Very quick post... will read the rest of the posts later just wanted to say sorry to hear about your BFN DG it could could still be too early to test they say you should get an accurate result by 18 DPO sooo if AF hasn't arrived by next Saturday then I think you should do another HPT then. Hope you don't feel too crappy as until AF shows her face then there are soooo many if's but's and could be's. Big

PS keep BDing x

yep, will also be dragging DH along to docs too.

Just remembered I've got a full body massage booked tomorrow . Which is what i had two days before AF arrived last time. Hopefully it'll bring it on again.

2 weeks IS a long time.

bucky glad the rest did you some good
If AF turns up in the next few days I will know that we just didn't get the egg (despite lots of bd'ing), be pleased that I actually produced an egg and be pleased that my cycle is shorter than last time.

Until then, though, I'm still toying with the idea (just posted a new thread about it) that my EWCM all this week was the real egg-hatching. In which case, will have to wait ANOTHER two weeks for AF/testing time...which means my cycles are definitely getting longer making it less likely that i'm producing good eggs.

This TTC is so confusing, I wish i was one of those ladies who had a 28-30 day cycle and wasn't made to hang arond like a twat for 7 weeks only to get AF at the end of it.

I know I should go to the doc, but everytime I book an appointment something happens to make me feel stupid for going (like AF turns up), so I cancel.

DG really sorry to hear about the bfn, but its still not over yet - need I mention the 'may be clutching at straws' thread from a few months ago?

Flippin hormones, eh? I'm sure there should be a much easier way of doing all this rather than having the agony of a 2ww each month. Have to say I'm finding taking my temps quite therapeutic as it gives me something proactive to do each morning and has shown that my body appears to be working ok.

Bucky pleased to hear the resting of your eyes seems to help a little

Right am off shopping in Brighton now - wish me well as I prepare to do battle with the saturday crowds!!!!

FS i don't know what I'd think of my DH if he was in the pub flirting when I was ovulating. I'd find it very hard not to be , start a row and sulk for the whole weekend, thus ensuring no bd'ing got done. I hope he does his very best to make it up to you!

picknmix hope your cramps aren't to do with TEW

shreksmissus good luck, hope AF doens't show up for you!