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Advice for Women That Have Come off the Pill - Share your Experience :)

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MintGreenLife · 16/06/2020 09:51

Hi all,

I came off the pill two months ago, and after having a completely haywire 2nd post-pill cycle, I've been doing a lot of research to try and understand what's going on.

I thought it would be nice to share my research and what I believe is happening to me, in hope it might help others. I also thought you might like to share your experience and how you found/are finding coming off the pill, as being able to read that other people experience similar can be really comforting. So here's me...

I'm 31 and TTC DC1.
I came off the pill early April, had my withdrawal bleed a few days later, then first natural AF came 30 days later, so a 30 day cycle. First AF was very light and started and finished with brown spotting. Only lasted 4 days.

I'm now in cycle2 currently on CD37. I didn't ovulate until CD33! The day after ovulation, my boobs and nipples were agony. I'm now 3DPO and the pain is worse.

I recalled this pain the last cycle too, which I wasn't tracking. I assumed it was a sign AF was coming, as it arrived 5 days later. But from this cycle I now know it's actually a sign I've ovulated, so this would mean an extremely short luteal phase on that first cycle.

My research has included reading 'Taking Charge of your Fertility'.
I also found this article extremely helpful in understanding what goes on in your body when you stop the pill, as well as learning things you can do to take charge of your cycle again: avivaromm.com/post-pill-reset/

My sore boobs and possible short luteal phase points to an oestrogen dominance, which causes low progesterone.

This sums up why this happens:

'While not a symptom in itself, nutritional deficiencies can cause a host of symptoms – including hormonal imbalances. They are also a problem for women who come off the pill hoping to get pregnant right away because low nutrient status has been associated with fertility problems, and low nutrients in mom can also mean low nutrients in baby. The pill has been associated with robbing a number of nutrients including B vitamins and magnesium.

Hormonal birth control pills can deplete the body’s stores of certain nutrients, including vitamins B2, B6, and B12; vitamins C and E; magnesium, selenium, zinc, and folate. Vitamin D levels may also drop after coming off the pill.'

Understanding what is going on with my body right now has made me feel so much better. If I were to have a normal luteal phase this cycle, I'd be on track to have a 48 day cycle! The sore boobs tell me I'm probably going to have a short luteal phase though.

I've also learnt how hormones control the whole cycle. With oestrogen being the important hormone during the first half. It builds up and when it reaches a certain threshold it triggers the LH surge. Once you've ovulated, then progesterone kicks in. This cycle I had three LH surges in total spaced 12 days apart until I finally ovulated. Oestrogen and Progesterone have to be perfectly balanced, and so I think the three LH surges could indicate that my oestrogen kept building up over and over until my body finally managed to ovulate, causing an oestrogen dominance. I finally confirmed ovulation after three high temps.

As of a few days ago, I'm following some of the steps in the article I linked, by taking a prenatal multivitamin to replace depleted nutrients. I already take probiotics, vitamin D and folic acid, so will continue with those and will add in vitamin C too. I've cut out low fat dairy instead choosing full fat, and am trying to focus on eating at least 2 pieces of fruit a day and extra veg with my lunch and dinner. I may also look into including a b6 supplement for my luteal phase next cycle if it does turn out to be short again this cycle, as this helps with progesterone and during the luteal phase progesterone spikes to dry up cervical fluid, change the cervix position, stop anymore eggs from being released and build up the lining, so is really crucial.

Hopefully this will help someone :) would love to hear how others are finding coming off the pill x

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Pip1903 · 27/08/2020 12:26

Not really sure what to make of it all but fingers crossed 🤞 x

Pip1903 · 27/08/2020 12:26

@MintGreenLife last cycle was my first off pill finally ovulated cd 40 and af was cd53 ..so about right I think?
This cycle I got a higher reading on opk but not quite a peak same last month too, was hoping I might of missed it.
However since ovulation I've had terrible sore boobs x

MintGreenLife · 27/08/2020 12:14

@Pip1903 ahh thanks :) that's good to know your friend didn't have any issues! I was thinking the same as @Juno231 but couldn't remember if you were actively TTC either! You never know. How long is your luteal phase usually? x

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Pip1903 · 27/08/2020 11:26

@Juno231 it did cross my mind but the cramps are def there and not faint, I will keep an eye on it 🤞
Also were ttc number 3...I've never experienced it before, although they are older now and ttc seemed so much easier before we were lucky and both happened very quickly. I'd never heard of opks before 🙈.
Also being older this time round my body has changed and I'm noticing symptoms I never had being younger!
It was a big decision for me and hubby to try for a 3rd but it's something weve always regretted not doing sooner so decided to go for it! We have put a limit on trying as were getting older and the age gap between the children will be fairly big now.
Here goes to hoping x

Juno231 · 27/08/2020 11:16

@Pip1903 not gonna lie that sounds like implantation to me?! Unless you're not trying at the moment? I can never remember which of us are actively TTC vs just coming off the pill in anticipation of it.

Pip1903 · 27/08/2020 11:09

Morning ladies @MintGreenLife @Juno231 sorry to hear you've had abnormal cells before , a close friend has had the same at a high grade and was told the same but went on to have her baby full term 😊...I've recently had a smear in lockdown, not the nicest but so important!
Us ladies have all the troubles I'm defo coming back as a man 😂.
@Flowerkm sorry af showed but at least your on track with cycle 😊
I think my cycle is going the total opposite and going too short🙈
I'm 9dpo have cramps like af is about to start also alot more cm today I saw a tiny speck of blood first thing, now it's like a orange colour ( sorry tmi) I'm sure it will turn into af as boobs are not as sensitive today either and cramps are def noticeable.

Was really hoping was more on track this cycle...never mind what is meant to be will be 😊 x

MintGreenLife · 27/08/2020 10:45

@Juno231 @Flowerkm apparently they can put a stitch in your cervix as you get into your third trimester to strengthen it if it may be an issue, so at least something can be done :)

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MintGreenLife · 27/08/2020 10:44

@Flowerkm also just FYI, apparently it's a normal abnormality and doesn't cause fertility issues - 1 in 4 women seem to have a tilted cervix/uterus :)

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MintGreenLife · 27/08/2020 10:44

@Juno231 awwww I didn't want to say as it's a sensitive subject, but I had to have the same!! I had my first smear at around 26, so five years ago, and it came back abnormal, so I then had to have a biopsy and then the same as you - a LEEP procedure. That's why I've had a lot of intervention up there ha. Frustratingly initially they thought they were grade 2 cells which is why they removed them, but after removing it turned out they were grade 1, so they actually wouldn't have removed them normally, just kept an eye on them, but it's better to be safe than sorry I guess.

I was told the same thing - that I'd be at higher risk of premature delivery now. I was told I would be classed as a 'high risk' pregnancy and kept a closer eye on. Hopefully it doesn't cause too many issues. I've done lots of googling to try and see if the procedure itself can cause problems and I don't think it does.

@Flowerkm I've actually just done a quick google and it does seem that a tilted cervix can be caused by scar tissue, which would make sense in my case, but not in yours xx

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Flowerkm · 27/08/2020 10:38

@MintGreenLife Ah I'm glad i'm not alone. Haha, yep, she was like can you tilt up, i was dying inside but just kept saying to myself she does this all the time..it's fine!!
At least you've had other good ones, that's reassuring, I'm hoping she just caught me on a 'tilted day' lol

@Juno231 Oh wow, they are so important aren't they? I'm glad they managed to remove what they needed for you. I wonder if there are any precautions you can take to try and prevent pre-term labour.

Juno231 · 27/08/2020 10:19

@Flowerkm yeah mine have always been fine! And I do value them as I had one 3-4 years ago that came back with precancer cells so had to have a colposcopy and LEEP procedure to have them removed. Apparently that puts me at a higher risk of pre-term labour now?

MintGreenLife · 27/08/2020 10:18

Hands under my bum! Not my bump...wish I had a bump haha x

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MintGreenLife · 27/08/2020 10:18

@Flowerkm that happened to me last time too! She couldn't find my cervix...whereas I've had 3+ smears/other examinations and they never had that issue before. To be fair I find mine is tilted at certain points throughout my cycle too, but I can always find it no problem ha. But yep, I had to do the same, put my hands under my bump and lift up to help her out ha. I'm fairly certain on that occasion she was up in there for a good couple of mins...but all my other ones were speedy and fine :) xx

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Flowerkm · 27/08/2020 10:17

I'll just add she did manage to take the swab, just had to move around a bit to get there!

Flowerkm · 27/08/2020 10:11

@MintGreenLife Aw, thank you. I hope so to. Just sending lots of luck and support to you. Your honeymoon sounds lovely, that will be just what you need, recharge yourselves :)

@Juno231 Haha, that made me giggle. I had my first one a year or two ago. I had to sit on my hands and tilt upwards as apparently i have a tilted cervix and she couldn't do what she needed to do?? It was sooo painful and i had spotting afterwards. Honestly though, that would never put me off going, I'd happily go back, it was like 15 seconds of being uncomfortable which is nothing really. Not putting anyone off! Everyone else i spoke to was like i didn't even realise she was doing it..guess I was just unlucky xx

MintGreenLife · 27/08/2020 09:57

@Juno231 haha, oh no! It's all going on, the things us girls have to put up with! I had mine late last year, so think I'm good for a while now, thank goodness! x

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Juno231 · 27/08/2020 09:53

@MintGreenLife 4DPO today, 36.66 temp. I'm just eager to see what the TWW will look like temp and RHR wise, this first week is always boring in comparison. Got a letter yday calling me in for a pap smear - seems like everyone wants to see my foof nowadays. Think it'll be my sixth smear already!

MintGreenLife · 27/08/2020 09:45

@Flowerkm I've read similar, but I feel like you might be OK?! I totally get that it's hard not to worry though. Fingers crossed you will continue with a nice normal length cycle, and you've already learnt how to pinpoint ovulation perfectly, so think you'll be in with a good chance to catch fairly quickly! I think 6 months is a fair time to wait :) will leave it until we are back from our little Scottish honeymoon and see if they would be willing to do some bloods and a scan or something xx

@Juno231 Haven't had any EWCM yet today - I find that if I'm going to get it I don't tend to see it until late morning and then I'll have a big blob at once! My temps are much lower this cycle though, not sure if that means anything. Today was 36.02, yesterday 36.03 and day before 35.95. Lowest I've had is 35.75! They were sort of a bit up and down for the first 15 days and now seem to be staying low. How many DPO are you now? x

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Juno231 · 27/08/2020 09:34

@MintGreenLife I think calling the GP sounds like a good idea too! How are the signs today?

Flowerkm · 27/08/2020 09:19

@MintGreenLife I am pleased, still feel nervous though as I’ve read of people having nice cycles and then cycles that just get longer and longer each time. I’m just worrying over things that I shouldn’t even worry about. Just hoping when we TTC I’m still in this cycle but also preparing myself to see some changes as that’s totally expected.

I think a call to the GP would be fine after 6 months, especially if it can help put your mind at ease. It already sounds like you are having good signs this cycle though which is all happening a little earlier than last. Hopefully you see a rise in temp this week :D
xx

@lalababy2 Welcome 😊 good luck on your journey and please keep us posted xx

MintGreenLife · 27/08/2020 08:35

@Elsie2021 I was similar in that my first cycle was 30 days, so I was thrilled thinking I was back on track right away, but it turned out I had a very short luteal phase of just a few days - that happened for my first two cycles, and then third one I had a normal luteal phase which made my cycle 55ish days long 🤦🏻‍♀️

I think for now I'm not worrying too much, I've got too much going on to distract me from it. I guess it does just go through your mind doesn't it, like 'why me?' And makes you wonder if there's something bigger going on.

Let us know if you do decide to start TTC! See you were sensible coming off early. I was kind of thrown into this as we decided to TTC because it looked like our wedding would be postponed and so we didn't see the point in waiting, so I just came off the pill, waited until I had AF and then decided to get on with it. This is only our third cycle trying, but as it should have been 4/5 cycles by now feels a lot longer 🤦🏻‍♀️ Xx

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Elsie2021 · 27/08/2020 08:21

@MintGreenLife I feel exactly like you. This is my 6th month off the pill and I think I’ve had 4 cycles. First one came after 43 days, then 28 days (and I thought everything was great!) then 34 days, last one was 41 days and now on CD25 with no ovulation yet.

I have only just started charting so I dont even know if I have been ovulating which is what really worries me. At least you know you have so your body can. I have read through other older threads where people are the same as us but have had their BFP so I wouldn’t worry! But if it is causing you stress then maybe you should go to the doctor because stress won’t help either.

I didn’t plan on TTC just yet, I wanted to wait until the new year when we will also have a bigger house. But me and my partner have started talking about trying now just to know if we can, which I know is for the wrong reason!

Sending you love. We will get there!

MintGreenLife · 26/08/2020 22:28

@Flowerkm af arriving sounds positive as means you had a good length luteal phase! Bet you were pleased in a way ☺️ Haha love that the workout brought it on xx

@Juno231 I think with everything else we have going on right now I've kind of naturally defaulted to worrying less about TTC and just focusing on DTD every other day and charting BBT. I did have a fair bit of EWCM mixed with creamy (was more opaque than clear but stretching several inches) when I wiped today but also the same around my cervix, so taking that to be a positive! I've looked back at my last cycle and I put EWCM on my chart from CD23, but then I went on to have it on and off for around two weeks 🤦🏻‍♀️ It's CD18 today so hoping as it's earlier that might be a positive and I'll ovulate in the next 5 days or so. Just praying it happens before we head off to my sister-in-laws next Wednesday ready for the wedding prep!

I'm not sure about Agnus Castus. I've looked into it and apparently it only helps if prolactin is high or dopamine is low. I'd be worried about doing something wrong and making things worse, but then from this group it seems the majority go back to cycling pretty regularly so am starting to feel like I'm a minority. It even says on the NHS website that your natural cycle should resume after 3 months, and I'm over 5 months off the pill now but have only had 3 cycles in that time. Think I'll leave it until 6 months and then maybe contact the GP x

@Elsie2021 I used OPKs for the first time during my second cycle off the pill and during that time I had three false peaks. My LH would go up to being super close to a positive and then would drop back down again the next day. That happened three times 🤦🏻‍♀️ It could be that your body is trying to ovulate and not quite managing, although as you say I think 37% is still pretty low, so maybe not a surge at all really x

Welcome @lalababy2 ☺️ Did you come off the pill to try for your first? Hopefully if you got back on track quickly then the same will happen this time round x

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Elsie2021 · 26/08/2020 20:50

I just did another OPK and it’s back down to 0 😭

Why would that happen?

lalababy2 · 26/08/2020 16:14

Hi all!

Just thought I would jump on... I came off the mini pill in July, (I was terrible at remembering to take it anyway, so surprised I didn't fall pregnant beforehand!)
I had a withdrawal bleed, then I had my period early August, so in theory should be ovulating around now! Trying to be optimistic in our first cycle of TTC baby number 2 SmileSmile

Good luck to everyone else in your journey!! Xx Daffodil