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Advice for Women That Have Come off the Pill - Share your Experience :)

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MintGreenLife · 16/06/2020 09:51

Hi all,

I came off the pill two months ago, and after having a completely haywire 2nd post-pill cycle, I've been doing a lot of research to try and understand what's going on.

I thought it would be nice to share my research and what I believe is happening to me, in hope it might help others. I also thought you might like to share your experience and how you found/are finding coming off the pill, as being able to read that other people experience similar can be really comforting. So here's me...

I'm 31 and TTC DC1.
I came off the pill early April, had my withdrawal bleed a few days later, then first natural AF came 30 days later, so a 30 day cycle. First AF was very light and started and finished with brown spotting. Only lasted 4 days.

I'm now in cycle2 currently on CD37. I didn't ovulate until CD33! The day after ovulation, my boobs and nipples were agony. I'm now 3DPO and the pain is worse.

I recalled this pain the last cycle too, which I wasn't tracking. I assumed it was a sign AF was coming, as it arrived 5 days later. But from this cycle I now know it's actually a sign I've ovulated, so this would mean an extremely short luteal phase on that first cycle.

My research has included reading 'Taking Charge of your Fertility'.
I also found this article extremely helpful in understanding what goes on in your body when you stop the pill, as well as learning things you can do to take charge of your cycle again: avivaromm.com/post-pill-reset/

My sore boobs and possible short luteal phase points to an oestrogen dominance, which causes low progesterone.

This sums up why this happens:

'While not a symptom in itself, nutritional deficiencies can cause a host of symptoms – including hormonal imbalances. They are also a problem for women who come off the pill hoping to get pregnant right away because low nutrient status has been associated with fertility problems, and low nutrients in mom can also mean low nutrients in baby. The pill has been associated with robbing a number of nutrients including B vitamins and magnesium.

Hormonal birth control pills can deplete the body’s stores of certain nutrients, including vitamins B2, B6, and B12; vitamins C and E; magnesium, selenium, zinc, and folate. Vitamin D levels may also drop after coming off the pill.'

Understanding what is going on with my body right now has made me feel so much better. If I were to have a normal luteal phase this cycle, I'd be on track to have a 48 day cycle! The sore boobs tell me I'm probably going to have a short luteal phase though.

I've also learnt how hormones control the whole cycle. With oestrogen being the important hormone during the first half. It builds up and when it reaches a certain threshold it triggers the LH surge. Once you've ovulated, then progesterone kicks in. This cycle I had three LH surges in total spaced 12 days apart until I finally ovulated. Oestrogen and Progesterone have to be perfectly balanced, and so I think the three LH surges could indicate that my oestrogen kept building up over and over until my body finally managed to ovulate, causing an oestrogen dominance. I finally confirmed ovulation after three high temps.

As of a few days ago, I'm following some of the steps in the article I linked, by taking a prenatal multivitamin to replace depleted nutrients. I already take probiotics, vitamin D and folic acid, so will continue with those and will add in vitamin C too. I've cut out low fat dairy instead choosing full fat, and am trying to focus on eating at least 2 pieces of fruit a day and extra veg with my lunch and dinner. I may also look into including a b6 supplement for my luteal phase next cycle if it does turn out to be short again this cycle, as this helps with progesterone and during the luteal phase progesterone spikes to dry up cervical fluid, change the cervix position, stop anymore eggs from being released and build up the lining, so is really crucial.

Hopefully this will help someone :) would love to hear how others are finding coming off the pill x

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Flowerkm · 02/09/2020 20:02

@MintGreenLife 😂 aww, oh god, they really do! I just said to the vet do everything and anything, just make sure shes ok!
So cheeky but so grateful she's doing better. Just watching her and re-doing bloods in a week to check they've all still ok 🤞🏻

How are you feeling about the big day? 😀 xx

MintGreenLife · 02/09/2020 19:12

@Flowerkm ohhh bless her, I remember when we had ours as a pup and they do just get into everything! I once momentarily left a bottle of antibacterial spray on the floor while cleaning and turned around and she was chewing on the spray nozzle! I picked her up and threw her into the sink and started running the tap and trying to rinse her mouth out, so ridiculous but you worry so much when they are pups. Well done for noticing she had eaten some, as many wouldn't have. Glad to hear she is OK now :) xx

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MintGreenLife · 02/09/2020 19:09

@Juno231 no positive OPK today unfortunately, also we DTD but kind of messed it up...won't go into detail ha. Hopefully we will manage again tomorrow as won't be able to on Friday.

That's great news about your progesterone test! Do you think your OH would consider getting some tests done? x

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Juno231 · 02/09/2020 18:21

Oh and I had my progesterone test yesterday and it came back today at 62, where anything over 30 means you've ovulated. Not only do I def ovulate but seems like low progesterone during the LP shouldn't be a problem for me! It's made OH worry the problem is on his side though - which I weirdly enjoyed him say because I think that's the first time he'd even considered it?!

Juno231 · 02/09/2020 18:11

@MintGreenLife ah that's brilliant! I hope you get your peak OPK today and tell tale temp shift tomorrow!

@Elsie2021 could be a long peak - I'd expect a temp rise tomorrow though otherwise it sounds like your body is trying to but hasn't managed this time round.

10DPO - BFN this morning as I caved! Had that pinching groin /uterus sensation all day today and my resting heart went up so I can't help but still feel hopeful. Even though I know I shouldn't be symptom spotting...

Flowerkm · 02/09/2020 16:53

Hey everyone ☺️ sorry for being quiet. Hectic few days with our 9 month old pup. She ate some ibuprofen from a closed packet in my bag (dog mum guilt is real - still no idea how she got them if Im honest but i guess a pup can get anything, learnt the hard way there) So after 4 days at the vets she is now home where she belongs. Literally cried for 4 days straight but shes doing ok and playing with all her toys, so fingers crossed she stays like that.

Ive been reading your posts daily so feel all caught up but just wasn't in the right head frame to reply. Nothing exciting my end, CD8 for me ☺️ xxx

Elsie2021 · 02/09/2020 11:17

Just did another OPK and still peaking! Does that mean I am still trying to ovulate? Or could my peak just last a long time?

MintGreenLife · 02/09/2020 10:11

@Elsie2021 think ovulation can happen 12-48 hours after peak OPK, so could be today is ovulation day and you'll get your rise tomorrow :)

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Elsie2021 · 02/09/2020 09:45

Fingers crossed for you @MintGreenLife!!

I had peak OPK yesterday and day before, but no temp rise this morning :(

MintGreenLife · 02/09/2020 08:45

Had loads of EWCM first thing too - I don't usually see it until later in the day, so taking this to be a positive sign also. Hoping I get a positive OPK today as think you can ovulate the same day as your LH surge 🤔 To be honest even if it happens tomorrow instead of today I'll be thrilled 🤞🏼

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MintGreenLife · 02/09/2020 08:31

My temp has dropped down to 35.87 this morn! So am hoping today might be ovulation day 🤞🏼 That would be very helpful as we are going away today. Will try to get OH to DTD before we go!

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MintGreenLife · 01/09/2020 10:28

@Juno231 I got it for 2/3 days in my first cycle, but then AF came a few days later! Does make me wonder what all the EWCM says about what's going on with me! I tried EPO briefly for one cycle but I worried I was taking too many supplements so I stopped x

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Juno231 · 01/09/2020 10:24

@Elsie2021 I have been lucky with them so far! This is only my third one though so I'm sure I'll have a horrible one before the year is up Grin

@MintGreenLife yes I'm not complaining - I take lots of EPO to make sure I get it in the first place! Before March I think I only noticed EWCM once since I came off the pill in Oct and since I started taking supplements I get it every cycle now :)

Elsie2021 · 01/09/2020 10:15

@Juno231 I wish my chart looked liked yours! It’s so clear!

MintGreenLife · 01/09/2020 10:04

@Juno231 think lots of EWCM is probably a good sign :) in my case from past cycles I took it to mean my body was trying to ovulate and not quite making it, from the stop start EWCM for a few weeks, not sure what that means. Really hope it happens in the next day or two as then I guess that would be normal-ish after 6-7 days of proper EWCM x

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Juno231 · 01/09/2020 10:01

@MintGreenLife yeah that was new to me - normally it's just for 2-3 days before OD. Although saying that I just looked at the chart from last month and I def logged EWCM on CD12 (OD was on CD17). So maybe this is normal for me !

MintGreenLife · 01/09/2020 09:59

@Juno231 argh I know, would have been so helpful if it had been! Definitely facing ovulation over the time we're at my sister-in-laws now, or later, if later that would be fine as we'll be on our honeymoon, but that's not until next Monday, and would also mean very late ovulation again.

Your chart looks great! Interesting that you had EWCM for six days, I've had it now for around 9 days, but the first 3 days was mixed with creamy and very little of it, so maybe I shouldn't have counted that. Cervix still hasn't gone soft though, who knows what's going on! x

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Juno231 · 01/09/2020 09:44

@MintGreenLife ah in a way I was hoping CD22 was it for you! I've attached my latest chart, it looks quite similar to my June one actually, down to the dip at 8 DPO.

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MintGreenLife · 01/09/2020 09:37

@Juno231 lots more EWCM today, so clearly haven't ovulated! X

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MintGreenLife · 01/09/2020 08:49

@Juno231 thanks, it's a wishy washy chart 😂 I wasn't convinced by what FF was saying either tbh!

That's great, sounds hopeful 🤞🏼 Will keep my fingers crossed for you xx

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Juno231 · 01/09/2020 08:43

@MintGreenLife hm it seems a bit premature. If you'd ovulated I'd think CD22 has more potential actually. I'd carry on on the assumption that you havent yet, until a proper temp shift can be seen. Sorry for the wishy washy answer!

Speaking of temps, after the big dip yday it's luckily shot back up to the highest temp yet I think. Fingers crossed 🤞

MintGreenLife · 01/09/2020 08:35

Morning everyone ☺️

@Juno231 would you mind casting your eye over my chart? On inputting my temp this morn the crosshairs appeared, but I'm not convinced. My temp this morn was 36.29, which is higher than it has been, as my temps have been as low as 35.75 and average around 36.05-10 this cycle, which is much lower than last cycle, but then my post ovulation temps last cycle got as high as 36.9, but I guess the average was 36.5. What do you think 🤔 X

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Elsie2021 · 01/09/2020 07:36

Sorry @lawandgin, I remember you saying now. I find it so hard remembering whose story is whose! I understand the need to want to know your body is ‘working’, but if it is upsetting you and causing you unnecessary stress, especially when it isn’t essential for you, then maybe have a month or so off the whole lot and see how you feel when you try to forget about it for a bit.

I know this is much easier said than done. Especially as after my positive OPK yesterday I was super interested in my temperature this morning and then if all went wrong so now I’m annoyed!

My temperature is always quite low, 35.70-36.00 roughly, then this morning when u woke up it was 36.84! At first I was excited thinking ‘that’s great, I ovulated!’ But then I realised that is a very big jump plus the room was super cold cause I slept with the window open and if was a cold night. So I took it again and it was 35.64 and again 35.71. Went back to sleep and took it again when I woke up 35.94. Gr! What happened to the first temperature?! I didn’t do anything different.

lawandgin · 31/08/2020 23:07

@Elsie2021 no, I don't temp. I said I wouldn't because it's ANOTHER thing to do and we need IVF anyway, so I kinda wondered what the point was. I am starting to change my mind though... we will be having IVF in the New Year (although the prospect of a second wave/lockdown is making me think maybe we should start sooner) but I would like to know I am at least in some kind of working order. I guess some people would say what's the point, if you know you're going to need IVF? I can't explain it, other than to say that I've always assumed my fertility. DH had a vasectomy when previously married, I didn't think I would have any issues. It's only since taking an interest into TTC that I see how naive that is! Just feeling a bit fed up tonight 😔

Elsie2021 · 31/08/2020 22:50

@lawandgin sorry you’re so fed up :( do you temp as well as OPKs? I’ve only recently started using OPKs but I understand they’re not that reliable. Are you actively TTC?

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