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Just want AF to arrive so new cycle can begin...

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CaribouCarafe · 26/05/2020 15:52

AF due in 3 days.

Am sure I'm out this month - negative FRER today and I have the usual PMS acne.

Just want my period to come already so that I can get this useless cycle over with and have a commiseration beer.

Just frustrating as have been taking pre-conception vitamins for months, cut out caffeine, no alcohol during TWW, have DTD every other day, tracked ovulation and with no success.

Anyone else fancy a moan whilst waiting for AF to show up?

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CaribouCarafe · 28/05/2020 11:21

@AnxiousAnnie86 ooh that looks interesting - do you have a link for the source?

I like the idea of trying to get multiples (am getting greedy now Grin)

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AnxiousAnnie86 · 28/05/2020 11:14

WHEN?
You take Soy Isoflavones, like Clomid, on either CD 1-5 , 2-6, 3-7 , 4-8 or 5-9.
If you take soy Isoflavones during the later time bracket, for example CD5-9, you shall strengthen the egg that has already started growing producing a healthier egg. The earlier in your cycle you take It, the higher your chance of releasing multiple eggs but these eggs will not be as mature as the eggs grown from taking Soya later.
A lot of women will choose the middle cycle (3 -7) allowing time for a strong and healthy egg to develop without erasing the chance of a second egg being developed and released.

1-5 = you produce more eggs, and ovulate sooner, with a stronger ovulation.

2-6 = you produce more eggs that usual, but not as many as taking it 1-5. Eggs may be more mature, and ovulation will be slightly more strong than 1-5.

3-7 = The best of both worlds, a few more eggs, and all eggs will be strong & mature, and ovulation will be alot stronger than 1-5.

4-8 = No more eggs will be produced, but the ones already there, will be matured alot more than usual, and ovulation will be very strong. Ovulation may only be brought forward a teeny bit.

5-9 = You'll have one very mature strong egg, from the ones you already produced on your own. Ovulation will either happen when it usually does, or a few days later, but your egg will be of great quality.

DOSE?
The dose is really down to you but you should always use the lowest amount that works for you.
With Clomid the starting dose is 100mg. Soya Isoflavones are said to be half the strength of Clomid, so it makes sense for the starting dose to be 100mg.
The trouble with 100mg of soya is that the capsules tend to come as 40mg. So you have a choice of starting at 80mg.
Some women change the dose on different days. So they may start at 120mg for the first 3 days then give an extra boost for the last 2 days with 160mg.

AnxiousAnnie86 · 28/05/2020 11:12

@CaribouCarafe you could also try soy and take it later as it produces a more mature healthier egg hang on let me find info x

CaribouCarafe · 28/05/2020 10:55

@LS2020 I was the same at 2am last night - fished out the very negative pregnancy test out of the bin (that I'd taken 15 hours earlier) and was ferociously squinting at it. Really mental.

Thankfully DH doesn't realise what a nutcase I am (although he does occasionally shoot a judgmental look at our growing pile of recycling with the increasing number of HPT boxes in it!).

@AnxiousAnnie86 really hope you get the shorter cycles you're hoping for. Thankfully mine are only 29 days long and I ovulate around CD9/10, but having earlier ovulation then makes the long wait until AF hellishly long as well.

Does anyone know how to get your body to ovulate later? Am getting convinced that I'm ovulating too early for a viable egg...

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AnxiousAnnie86 · 28/05/2020 07:06

@cariboucarafe I could of written your post 😂 I get to about 11 dpo then just want AF To come as I know I'm out!!!

I'm currently 3dpo this month will mark a year of trying if unsuccessful:( I'm starting soy isoflavones today as my OV date ranges from 17 to 32 so hoping to bring it forward as waiting 32 days for OV is torture! X

LS2020 · 28/05/2020 06:28

@Littlebee1990 I feel that, I’m trying to convince myself that because I can see where the line should be that must mean there’s something, ignoring the fact 9 times out of 10 I lose sight of it again 😂
Yeah I promised myself last month I would keep really zen this month and not worry about and on here I toddled at 2dpo with all my apps on the go and documenting every move I make Hmm

Littlebee1990 · 28/05/2020 06:23

@LS2020 - I’m going to try and switch off from apps too, didn’t realise how much of an obsessive personality I have. I was staring and squinting and trying to break in to a BFN FRER yesterday at 5AM 🙈

LS2020 · 28/05/2020 06:15

@Littlebee1990 thanks for that - think I needed this this morning as currently squinting at a BFN thinking I can maybe see a small shadow of a line 😂 I’m wondering about deleting my Fitbit app for a month so I can’t obsess over my timings as much

Littlebee1990 · 28/05/2020 06:07

This is a really good read ladies.. helped me anyway!

www.cosmopolitan.com/lifestyle/a10309507/trying-to-conceive-pregnancy/

dogmam · 26/05/2020 22:36

Ah right I'll have a look, thanks! Yeyy, another thing to obsess over haha

mrswilso · 26/05/2020 22:33

@dogmam there seems to be a pattern in rhr that links with stages of the cycle and a lot of girls have discovered they're pregnant because of the changes that happen to that pattern when they conceive! It's fascinating and I'm obsessed with watching mine haha 😂
I'm on a thread about it - I'm sure it's called fitbit rhr and bfp or something like that. I'm sure you could track it with your Garmin too!

dogmam · 26/05/2020 22:26

@mrswilso well I tried to put the possibility of being pregnant out of my head after the 4 tests and decided to check if ovulating today instead but then I kind of stumbled across a YouTube video of someone who said a positive OPK could mean either positive pregnancy or ovulation.. but because mine was negative it was just another reminder I'm deffo not pregnant!!

Ooo what's the RHR thing? I don't have a fitbit but I have a garmin which does the same, only thing is I run a few times a week so not sure if tracking RHR would be accurate?

mrswilso · 26/05/2020 22:21

Oooh @dogmam - fingers crossed for you, hopefully you just need another couple of days - maybe you ovulated later?
I've heard of people using them, never personally but I'd always want to confirm with a HPT x

dogmam · 26/05/2020 22:10

Hi everyone...

Haha sounds like we are all the same! I stupidly thought as soon as I came off the pill that I would be pregnant. Honestly I never ever thought I would be checking a forum constantly, spending hours researching ovulation, and desperately trying not to take another pregnancy test, this time 6 month ago!! Yet here I am!

I'm a week late and 4 negative tests deep!!

Anyone heard of using ovulation strips as pregnancy tests?

LS2020 · 26/05/2020 20:05

@cariboucarafe yes they check LH/FSH/testosterone/progesterone/oestrogen and thyroid so felt comprehensive. For me, I was looking at Ava and some weird moon cup but for swimmers which were £150-£200 plus, as started to feel desperate (again ridiculous for such a short time but similarly we’ve been off contraceptive since July last year and nothing) and I saw someone else mention and I thought well I don’t want to spend x amount and then get a year down the line and find out it was a hormone imbalance and then wasted the time and effort. I think I was really worried about this because I was on depo for over 10 years so wanted to know my balance was back to normal too. My results were back in 48 hours and got GP review on it and was so reassuring with some advice so was worth the money for me.
Honestly I don’t think there’s one body part left on my body that I haven’t googled is looking odd in the TWW and could it be a secret symptom 🤣 I did have a google because was very bloated on Sunday but had to face the fact my local Pizza Hut had reopened and I’d eaten half a large cheesy bite pizza and half a bottle of wine which may have more to do with it!!
The soreness is supposed to be a good sign though so hope so for you!

@mrswilso I’ve loved it every month because mine rises and rises until the day before AF and it would drop but it would give me so much hope! I had a big dip at 5dpo and then a mini dip at 7-8dpo but it’s only gone up 1bpm since then and stayed there 😞 fx for you!!

mrswilso · 26/05/2020 19:57

Oooh @ls2020 - I'm absolutely OBSESSED with the Fitbit RHR thing! I was actually just overanalysing my graph for the millionth time again today just now haha! This cycle does look very different from last month at this time... 🤞🏻
I've had a dip at 7dpo and risen again today so naturally I've convinced myself it's implantation 🤣 will update the Fitbit thread in a couple of days if I start seeing anything else that's different from my usual!

CaribouCarafe · 26/05/2020 19:56

@LS2020 I had convinced myself I was pregnant this cycle because I fainted last week and have had really sore boobs for the past week.

Pregnancy tests (including the FRER and Fortel Ultra Sensitive ones I took) have all said 'nope' so far though, and over the past few days I just feel PMS-y so I'm certain AF is coming. Gah!

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CaribouCarafe · 26/05/2020 19:56

@LS2020 I had convinced myself I was pregnant this cycle because I fainted last week and have had really sore boobs for the past week.

Pregnancy tests (including the FRER and Fortel Ultra Sensitive ones I took) have all said 'nope' so far though, and over the past few days I just feel PMS-y so I'm certain AF is coming. Gah!

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CaribouCarafe · 26/05/2020 19:52

@LS2020 I hadn't considered getting tested so soon, but it might be useful just for sanity's sake. Were they just checking your hormone levels?

@mrswilso I remember reading a post once where someone had said that for all the success they've had with pregnancy tests, they may as well piss on a piece of cardboard and draw a single pink line on it! That one made me giggle - absolute money saver!

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LS2020 · 26/05/2020 19:52

@mrswilso yes that’s exactly what I’ve been like. Last month had it all, the aches, nausea, cramping and was so excited and then AF arrived 3 days early. Then this month silence, and still BFN. I know the logical aspect that even if I was pregnant that my HCG wouldn’t even rise until AF so I’d have no way of knowing but it’s just nice to feel something is happening!
I promised myself I would try have a chilled out cycle this month and now I’m down a Fitbit RHR rabbit hole upset because I’ve managed to keep my HR calm and therefore can’t be pregnant because my HR isn’t rising 😂

mrswilso · 26/05/2020 19:45

@ls2020 I'm like that this cycle too - last month had everything, bfn. This time I've had nothing that I've noticed. Bodies are weird 😕

LS2020 · 26/05/2020 19:43

I really feel you all. I actually started my journey because two close friends took over a year to conceive their children so I wanted to get ahead on it but it still pains me every month it doesn’t happen.
I’m on cycle 5 now and I can’t bear to think what I’ll be like in another few months time. This month just seems to be worse, I’ve had absolutely nothing in my TWW, not even my normal AF symptoms, feels like my body has just missed an entire cycle 😞

@mrswilso you’re right, I wonder why I spent so long trying to avoid getting pregnant if it’s this difficult to do!

@CaribouCarafe I did some day 2 blood tests this month to try and stem the pressure I kept feeling that I was infertile and that’s was why it wasn’t happening and they were expensive at £79 but it did put my mind at ease a lot!

mrswilso · 26/05/2020 19:42

@cariboucarafe 🤣 "translate the runes on my piss sticks" has me actually pmsl hahaha

MyGossip · 26/05/2020 19:40

@CaribouCarafe I use Flo too and then downloaded Premom and found that they were showing different days for my ovulation by two days. I started using easy@home OPKs and you can upload them to Premom and it gives you an indication of your ovulation levels from the picture. It's pretty helpful I must say! I done it mid month as they didn't arrive in time but I'll be ready ready month and hope to catch my ovulation date properly 🤞🏻

CaribouCarafe · 26/05/2020 19:35

@mrswilso ha! Yes I think you're right, sods law would have got me pregnant at 16 otherwise!

@MyGossip I'm using Flo at the moment, but am thinking of maybe downloading a second app to track my OPKs (maybe Premom?).

I decided against using OPKs this month as I thought it would be less stressful to just do the 'every other day' approach rather than trying to translate the runes on my piss sticks. But it didn't actually relieve any anxiety any more - in fact it added to it because then I didn't know where I was in my cycle!

Next month I'll be doing the OPKs properly again, and probably do the SMEP plan.

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