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Penguin huddle 🐧🐧🐧 TTC after pregnancy loss - Thread 35 - time for some sticky BFP's

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SomeBunnyovertheRainbow · 19/05/2020 15:36

Welcome to the 🐧 huddle. This a safe place to give and receive support for everyone who has experienced the loss(es) of a pregnancy or baby. Pregnancy and child loss is one of the most difficult things we can experience and it can also be the most lonely time too. I hope you find this thread to be of some comfort.

I have found so much comfort from the lovely ladies on this thread and I’m hoping for lots of BFPs in coming months!

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Mumlili9 · 29/05/2020 11:33

@SomeBunnyovertheRainbow hi hun I'm OK.

I had a blazing bfn this morning at 10dpo so I'm considering my self out this cycle. Totally gutted as it's technically my first "normal length" in years. Bding was perfect for ovulation too. This pesky one tube isn't doing its job. On to cycle 4 😔. The only time I've ever had a later bfp was with my ectopic and that put me through hell so I don't want to see one later because I'll freak out. Does that sound stupid?
@Babytobe lol that was me (cheese). It's true I've been here forever, occasionally I get to leave for a few weeks and jump over to the sister thread (pregnancy one) but I always come back. Sorry you find yourself here.
Congrats and good luck @Rayray17
@marmitecheesetoast I hope your appointment date isn't to far away. I'm hoping for the best outcome under such circumstances (I hope you understand what I mean), hand hold coming your way x

SomeBunnyovertheRainbow · 29/05/2020 08:53

@Babytobe I was tested for vitamin D not long ago and was low so I’m taking vit D and I’m taking high dose folic acid. I called the GP this morning but wanted one particular GP who was lovely after I’d had my stillbirth and MC. At the time she told me I could call in to speak to her any time even if reception said she didn’t have any appointments but I haven’t spoken to her since. Apparently she’s in on Monday so I’ll call then. It’s helpful to know when progesterone is checked. Thank you x

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Sakura54 · 29/05/2020 08:50

Congrats and good luck @Rayray17

@SomeBunnyovertheRainbow I get spotting for 2-3 days and read that it should be counted as day 1 if it's directly before AF and a nurse also said this. If not then I've been tracking my cycles wrong all this time lol?! I think it's a normal thing though. Yes, deffo speak to your GP to get help.

AF came properly yesterday after 3 days of spotting which I've been waiting for following my MMC so right on time!

Babytobe · 29/05/2020 08:43

@somebunny im so sorry about the loss of your daughter. I cant bear to imagine how difficult that was and is for you and your family. Defo pop along to your Gp, especially after all you have been through and 6 mths of trying. They might do some hormone levels and vit D levels etc ( v important for cycle regulation and ovulation). Progesterone is checked CD3 and CD10 usually so at least this could be done for you now x

SomeBunnyovertheRainbow · 29/05/2020 08:25

@Babytobe Thanks for your reply. Yes we are all similar ages which is nice. Yes it is only when wiping. I had a daughter last year who died before she was born and since having her and TTC again I’m more in tune with my body. Before then I didn’t track so I don’t even recall whether I used to have spotting. Our bodies are amazing and confusing aren’t they?! The friable cervix must make things more confusing for you but hopefully it won’t prevent you getting your rainbow baby.

I might speak to my GP because it is now 9 cycles since I my second pregnancy (which was 6 months after DD and ended in mc) as they do say to speak to your doctor if you’re over 35 and trying for more than 6 months. Not sure what they can do at the moment.

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Babytobe · 29/05/2020 08:18

Thank you @somebunny. It sure seems like a lovely group, thanks all for having me! And with such similar age groups aswell which helps (smelly cheeses indeed - I had a good old chuckle at who ever said this in previous posts!!)

Ive always had spotting about starting 5 days before AF. Sorry for tmi but just for clarity sake, when I say spotting I mean when wipe only, not enough for a liner. I think thats the distinction between it and AF - if its requiring a pad change then its mother nature in all her glory! I looked into the low progesterone also and sure enough my levels were borderline low.
Also, with me I sadly developed a friable cervix/ chronic cervicitis following surgical interventions for past failed pregnancies. After a colposcopy to confirm it, it now means that I am extra likely to spot when when using the ladies so thats another added confusion. Funny thing is, thats definately related to my menstrual cycle and.only ever in luteal phase

SomeBunnyovertheRainbow · 29/05/2020 08:15

How are you @Mumlili9 @peperethecat @VenusStarr?

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SomeBunnyovertheRainbow · 29/05/2020 08:06

Also I didn’t notice any EWCM this cycle. I noticed some CM but didn’t seem to quite get to fertile CM so maybe that’s another I didn’t ovulate Hmm

Sorry I’m obsessing a bit now but I know it’s probably over once I’ve see the spotting!

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SomeBunnyovertheRainbow · 29/05/2020 08:04

@marmitecheesetoast 💕 I hope I haven’t said too much. I know how difficult it is waiting for PM results.

@Rayray17 I’m sorry for your losses. It’s understandable you would be worried. We do have a sister thread for our ladies who have got their BFPs. Hopefully someone can link it in case you want to join.

@Babytobe I’m sorry you find yourself here and for what you’ve been through but it is a lovely group.

I had some spotting yesterday and again today which is how AF usually starts so not feeling as hopeful now. I even read that not having PMT symptoms can mean you haven’t ovulated!

Also can I ask who else gets spotting before their periods? At least since I had my angel DD I seem to have this every cycle eg don’t read if TMI spotting on Monday, spotting on Tuesday then light AF on Wednesday, medium AF Thursday... I was reading all sorts last night like that this can mean progesterone is low which is obviously an issue if TTC but there seems to be conflicting info as to whether it’s even considered spotting if it’s just the start of AF.

I still count CD1 as the first day of proper bleeding rather than spotting, which is what Ovia does too.

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Babytobe · 29/05/2020 03:19

I forgot to say im sorry for all of you ladies that are here and reading through some of your posts and losses really shows what a sh*t time we have all been through in varying circumstances of the same sad outcome.I hope we all get the precious baby we so dearly long for, gotta have hope!!

Aww @Rayray17 huuuge congratulations to you!! Of course you are worried honey, thats totally understandable and prob expected. Sending you calming and healthy vibes for a healthy sticky little jellybean rainbow baby...You totally deserve this to be your time now!! 🌈❤💕

Babytobe · 29/05/2020 02:17

Hi girls, is it okay with you all that I join? Im 37, no children (yet 🤞) A week ago I had an ectopic pregnancy at 7.5weeks, required surgical management & I lost a fallopian tube Sad😭 This was my third pregnancy in 12 months, the ectopic the same week as my mmc 12 months prior.
1st BFP April 19 MMC 10.5 weeks
2nd BFP Sept 19 MMC 7 weeks
3rd BFP April 20 Ectopic 7.6weeks

The procedure I had was a "salpingectomy" which means I still have two apparently functioning ovaries but only one tube. The surgeon also removed three "spots" of endometriosis which I did not know I had. Hoping this will help our efforts carry a baby to term. Still feeling so so sad to have lost an otherwise healthy bean that implanted in the wrong place. But we are hopeful for the future. Any of you have any positive stories for me after ectopic? If this post is in the wrong thread im sorry, im new to mumsnet and, well, forums in general! 🤦‍♀️

Rayray17 · 28/05/2020 23:28

Hi all,

I hope you don't mind me joining this thread, you all seem like such lovely people.

My story is I've been TTC since Sept 17. I had a chemical pregnancy in March 18, then an ectopic pregnancy in May 18. We stopped for a few months as advised after that and then struggled to conceive for many months. I then conceived again in November 19 and miscarried at about 6 weeks and then caught again the next months only to find out that was ectopic and had surgery in Jan this year to remove the foetus and my right tube.

I don't have any children.

The reason I've dropped a message is because I've had a positive test on a FRER at 11 dpo today (I attached the pic) and I'm now super scared for the next few weeks with my history. It's hard as I don't want to get my hopes up but I really want this one to stick.

I'm 36 now btw.

Penguin huddle 🐧🐧🐧 TTC after pregnancy loss - Thread 35 - time for some sticky BFP's
Penguin huddle 🐧🐧🐧 TTC after pregnancy loss - Thread 35 - time for some sticky BFP's
SomeBunnyovertheRainbow · 28/05/2020 16:03

I’ve heard of people doing them by video call as well so that’s something to consider asking about. I only say this because I was at a Sands meeting recently and one person complained they’d had results over the phone but someone else in the group had had their meeting as a Skype or Zoom call which they found more helpful helpful. Might not be an option everywhere or course.

You’re right and I wouldn’t necessarily go out of your way to think of questions. I was writing them from almost the day she died. Every time I thought of something, I wrote it down, and it helped me to do that but they were all answered anyway.

Flowers
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marmitecheesetoast · 28/05/2020 15:56

I am just worried it may throw an additional obstacle in our course Sad

marmitecheesetoast · 28/05/2020 15:56

Thanks both. I’m still waiting for her to call, might not be til tomorrow as I know she’s in clinic all day. I Imagine the appointment will be over the phone with current covid situation. I will have a think and write down any questions but I imagine most of the questions will come as a result of what the actual PM says

peperethecat · 28/05/2020 14:37

I don't really know what to say in case I say the wrong thing, but I hope you get some answers as soon as possible. Flowers

SomeBunnyovertheRainbow · 28/05/2020 14:35

@marmitecheesetoast

Something similar happened to us. We were told the result would take about 12 weeks but we were waiting longer. Then I got a call offering me a same day appointment and it made it sound like it was urgent so we worried something was wrong. It turned out they’d just offered us a cancellation because they I’d chased for the results.

I hope you have a good bereavement midwife. It helps. Getting the results is never going to be fun b it I hope you are not told anything that could make things harder for you and I recommend writing down any questions as you’ll otherwise forget them when you’re there.

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marmitecheesetoast · 28/05/2020 14:25

Thanks @peperethecat.
I just can’t believe it can be so soon. I think this must mean they’ve found something?? But who knows. I’ve had to pour myself a wine to calm down Blush

peperethecat · 28/05/2020 14:17

Handhold for you, @marmitecheesetoast.

marmitecheesetoast · 28/05/2020 14:10

Fingers crossed @peperethecat !

I’m reeling I’ve just had a call telling me the post mortem results are back, which is waaaay sooner than we’d been prepped for. So of course now wondering what that means. Got to wait for The bereavement midwife to ring me with an appt time with her and a consultant to go through them now. Was completely out of the blue, we were told it would likely be July maybe even early August so a bit thrown now. I hope we don’t have to wait too long for the appointment.

SomeBunnyovertheRainbow · 28/05/2020 09:44

@VenusStarr I think we both maybe got confused Grin

Interesting to hear how things are there @peperethecat

Work is keeping me sane!

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peperethecat · 28/05/2020 09:39

Yes actually lockdown has been officially over since 11th May, although we still need a special authorisation to travel more than 100km (which I wouldn't be doing anyway) and we have to wear masks on public transport and in a lot of shops etc.

Bars and restaurants are still closed but the weather is nice now and people just seem to be recreating them outside. I went for a walk last night and saw lots of groups of people playing pétanque, some people gathered around a park bench having some drinks, huge crowds of people having picnics round the lake, teenagers making out in cars and a group of people who had gathered outside a bar (the doors were open, I think it must have been the owners and their friends) drinking beers and eating takeaway pizza.

Frankly they might as well just reopen the bars and restaurants!

I think the virus is here to stay for a while so we might as well go almost back to normal and just try to keep ICU admissions to a manageable level. But I might feel differently if I was high risk or knew someone who was. The current transmission rate and daily death rate is pretty low in France at the moment but I guess there's always a lag of a couple of weeks, so I guess in the next fortnight we'll see whether the easing of the restrictions has caused a second wave or not.

I wonder whether people are making the most of their relative freedom at the moment because they're worried we'll be back on proper lockdown in a couple of weeks.

VenusStarr · 28/05/2020 09:26

Oh no, that's not good. What are the restrictions like there, can you go out for a walk or anything?

peperethecat · 28/05/2020 09:10

Only work, but it's all gone quiet over the last couple of weeks. It's really annoying because my company made us take five days off to ease the wage bill in April (our holiday days get paid from a separate fund that was all paid up last year), and I was so busy in April I was having to take calls on my days off and work crazy hours on the other days, and if I'd chosen to take those days off and hadn't been going away I probably would have cancelled them due to workload, but because of the company policy I had to take them. And now pretty much since the end of April everything has gone quiet and I'm twiddling my thumbs!

VenusStarr · 28/05/2020 09:04

It is really hard, have you got something that can keep you occupied today.
You are definitely right, it's actually just a waste of money in these early days to test more than once a day - my logical brain goes on holiday during the latter part of the tww 😂

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