Short Luteal Phase Gang!

@Slk3558 I had my day 21 bloods done and they came back as 13.3 and the gp said it was only borderline low 🙄 I knew I had ovulated that month but this proved to me that I was deficient in progesterone and had a luteal phase defect. When I took this information to a private consultant he also did not feel it was significant but I insisted it was and that I needed prog. He gave me it and said it wouldn't make a difference and that month I got my bfp...!

I used the prog cream and it didn't really do anything. It gave me sore boobs and possibly half a day to a day more of an lp.

I took b6 also and it did increase lp one month but then delayed ov the next. I also tried acupunture and was doing that the month I got bfp. So between acupunture and the progesterone something worked.

I had 2 chemical pregnancies before I got the prog and I know it was my low prog that caused them. Sorry you're going through this, it's really shite and there are so many who do not believe in an Lpd! But it does exist and can be treated easily xx

Anyone else had a day 21 progesterone (7 dpo for those who ovulate late) test done?

I sent for a medi checks progesterone blood test on on 7 DPO and got my results back it was 19.8 n/mol which is in the ‘inconclusive ovulation’ range as it should be more than 30 to confirm ovulation. I know I ovulated though because I temp and got my sustained temp rise as I always do after the lH surge.

So it seems I have ‘inadequate’ progesterone as many of us suspect with short leutal phase. I suspect my progesterone was either low to begin or started dropping too soon as I got my period evening of 11 DPO.

I stared taking progesterone cream about 8dpo because I was scared to take it so I guess I started it too late. I already take high dose vitamin b complex with 100 mg B6. It gave me a BFP in December which I miscarried.

Really would like to hear any success stories/ similar experiences/ advice. Xx

@Boc86 did you have any luck with the prog? I am hoping you had a similar experience to me and got your bfp xx

@MintGreenLife I am so so sorry, I never got notification of your message. I decided to have a wee look through old thread again and that's when I saw it. How are you getting on? My thyroid although underactive was always under 2.5 with the medication. That was first thing doctor ensured. I think issue with thyroid is it can inhibit ovulation, not sure it had much to do with lpd. The only thing that worked for me was getting prog suppositories viabprovate consultant. My lp was consistently 8 days and it is so infuriating. I hope you have found a solution since last we spoke. Please let me know how you are getting on and again I am so sorry xx

@GlassLily well I started using the cream about 7 dpo.. don’t know why I started so late. Had really good temps this month but dropped to cover line this morning at 10 dpo :( had lower back and tailbone pain since 8 dpo similar to what I had when I got my first BFP..really thought I’d get a BFP but BFN on frer this morn at 10 dpo. .

@Slk3558 I say go for it with the progesterone cream! My progesterone is normal 7 days after ovulation but that doesn't mean it continues being normal after BFP. The only issue I have with the progesterone is I get cystic acne while I'm on it. Otherwise it does no harm according to my dr.

That's fascinating that you took B complex then had 2 X CPs in a row, that's exactly what happened to me. How strange. I hope we both get a sticky BFP soon.

@acaciabluebell Try a high dose vitamin B complex tablet, aparantly vitamin b 6 works best in complex form with vit b12 etc.

Holland and barret busy B times release is really good it’s got vitamin C 500mg and 100mg B6 as well as all the other vitamin Bs. I believe that helped me get my BFP the first time around.

@GlassLily I really hope you get your BFP soon which sticks.

I do take a high dose vitamin B complex supplement, that also got me my BFP after 4 months of trying with a short leutal phase, I still miscarried though, twice in a row now and now I’m on cycle 2 after my 2nd mc. I will keep plodding on as well. I’ve bought some progesterone cream but I’m scared to use it! I’ve ordered a private progesterone blood test online which I plan to take on 7dpo which should hopefully give me an idea of my progesterone levels!

I had a short luteal phase on average of 9 to 10 days (sometimes shorter) and conceived after 6 months.
I tried reflexology and fertility meditations.

Hey everyone, I have an LP of 11 days usually. I took 100mg of B6 daily last cycle to try and lengthen my LP, but then it dropped further to 9ish days! 😣 I don't understand why this happened!

@Slk3558 I'm so sorry about your miscarriages. Have you tried B complex? I am a bit convinced that is really helpful. It got me my first and second BFP but at the time I didn't realise how important it was, and I stopped taking it or reduced the dosage and then miscarried.

@Slk3558 thanks for the reply! I am still plodding along, we've passed the year mark now.

I started out on 200mg progesterone daily which got me to 12DPO, so my doctor doubled it to 400mg in the hope of getting to 14DPO. I can still only get to 13DPO then start bleeding, even if I'm still taking the progesterone. This seems wrong to me, but the specialist says he doesn't want to increase the dosage any further and says it's impossible for me to be progesterone deficient on that dosage.

Just finished third cycle on progesterone. Had 1 "maybe" CP with a v v v faint line. It was nothing like my other MCs though. After that I started on aspirin also, which is another "won't hurt, might help" drug suggested by the specialist.

In terms of getting a referral, I'm afraid I can't help - I live overseas so it's straightforward to get a referral and I have been seeing a specialist since the 6 month ttc mark (I have to pay though).

It's nice and reassuring to be able to see a specialist, knowing I couldn't have in the UK. I really feel for you, not being able to get progesterone. In reality though, it's not a magic solution. It's a whole load of guesswork and trial and error. Even the progesterone may not really do much.

My specialist said as we are conceiving, our only real treatment option now is IVF, where the embryos are screened - so now it's just a waiting game to see how long we want to keep trying before going down that very invasive and expensive route.

@GlassLily hi and sorry for the delayed response. Well after my last post I got another BFP but unfortunately had another miscarriage at 5.5 weeks. Most recent cycle after mc no BFP and had a leutal phase of 11 days, which is slightly disappointing. Currently on CD2. Hope your ttc journey is going well? Can I ask how you managed to get the progesterone after two MC, my GP won’t even consider until I’ve had 3 when she said she would refer to specialist . So I feel a bit hopeless - I do believe there could be a connection between the leutal phase length and the two miscarriages I’ve had.

I'd love to join this thread if you'll have me! I'm 11 months into ttc #1 and usually have a 10 day LP. I started taking B complex 2 cycles ago and have had CPs in both those cycles, mc at 4.5 weeks. Have just been prescribed progesterone pessary which I'm using for the first time this month - which is great as the 2 MCs seem to me like my progesterone is just dropping off too early.

@Slk3558 I am so sorry about your MMC. I am just into TWW after ovulating today/y'day, and I'm full of hope. Are you still in TWW? Or have you had AF or BFP?

Hello everyone I’m back ttc1 after my mmc. . I’ve made it to 10 DPO no AF so far. Anyone else in the TWW?

@Slk3558 Oh I am so sorry to hear that... I can't even imagine the disappointment. I just hope you are feeling okay, aside from the obvious emotional difficulty.

@Slk3558 Oh no I'm so sorry to hear that 😞 I hope you are both doing OK??

Hi girls. I may be joining you all again soon. Just been diagnosed missed miscarriage at 7 weeks. It stopped growing at 5 weeks. Looks like I was unlucky. It hasn’t passed yet but I’m spotting as soon as it passes I’ll be looking to TTC again as soon as I ovulate ! ☹️

@Rose2108 hello! I've started on the recommended vitamins at the start of this cycle and just about to ovulate, so I'm excited to see if they have made a difference.

@Slk3558 congratulations!!

Hi Ladies... I've got the same issue as so many of you! Nice to find people discussing the things I Google all day long 🤣

I've made some notes on the vitamins you all suggest, thanks so much for sharing. Lovely to see success stories too!!

My cycle is about 26 - 28 days, at around 9dpo I start spotting brown discharge. This can last anything between 2 - 4 days and then AF will properly arrive. We've been ttc our first for 6 months now, I'm 31 like many of you! I was on the pill for about 12 years and came off a year ago.

Looking forward to following your journeys and sharing advice! X

@Pinklilly thanks I am still in shock. It’s mad that we both got our bfps.

How are you doing and how are your symptoms? I’ve just been having intermittent aches down there and in my back and peeing a bit more often .Apart from that nothing really. supposed I’m really early tho 12 dpo today.

@Slk3558 oh this is such wonderful news! I am so pleased for you!!! Eeek so so exciting!

@Pinklilly leutal phase normally 10 days but had some intermittent cramps starting 8dpo and then really strong lower back pain 9 and yesterday 10 dpo so I had a feeling and tested yesterday.

@Pinklilly just did a FRER this morning very strong positive. can’t believe it!

@Slk3558 omg I see it! This is so exciting. Have you got an frer? How long is your luteal phase normally? Eeek I've got everything crossed that this is it for you!