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4th chemical since May

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Whyhaveidonethis · 13/02/2020 23:45

Hi all, I feel so low. Got a bfp a few days ago and then negative yesterday morning. Tested again with a frer last night and the line was there and very slightly darker. this morning another faint line but tonight after a 5 hours hold, it was bfn again.

This happened in May 2019, then July, then September. Could have possibly had one in November too but I refused to test. Now again. What is wrong with me? What could be causing this? Has anyone had recurrent cps and gone on to have a successful preganacy?

My age is against me. I'm 41 been trying for 21 months now. I have high FSH levels but very regular but light periods.

Every chemical i have had really really strong symptoms. Yesterday and for 3 days before that my boobs were huge, I felt sick and had an awful taste in my mouth. Today its all gone.

Nor bleeding yet but its just a matter of time. I've been referred to a gynaecologist and my appointment is on 26th Feb but I'm fairly sure that they will just say its my age and do nothing.

God, this is so horrible

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pumpkinpie01 · 22/02/2020 09:05

I was in your situation 7 years ago I had no trouble getting pregnant just couldn't stay pregnant , couldn't get past 6 weeks and when I did miscarry - 4 times . it was just like a period. I felt like the egg and the sperm had no trouble meeting up but just couldn't implant . I had all sorts of tests ( I was 38 with 3 older dc) and they all came back clear it was so frustrating. I became obsessed and did so much research I decided I needed progesterone supplements. I went to the drs armed with my research and asked for it he said he didn't know enough about it to prescribe it. At my next hospital appointment I asked for it the dr shrugged and said it wouldn't do anything but I could have it anyway. The next time I got pregnant it started off the same - no symptoms . I took the progesterone religiously and we will never know if it was coincidence or not but we now have a lovely 6 year old ! Good luck I wish you all the best I remember so well how upsetting each month was x

Livingmagicallyagain · 22/02/2020 08:43

@VenusStarr the Health Unlocked Thyroid forum is brilliant. And I have PMed @Whyhaveidonethis lots of info that helped me. Would you like the same?

@Whyhaveidonethis you may be right. That's exactly as it was with me. Is your appointment on Wednesday?

CurbsideProphet · 22/02/2020 08:42

@Whyhaveidonethis I'm just about to have my 2nd chemical pregnancy in 3 months. I've not tested this time (I had a bfp at new year), but same as you I get the full symptoms including extreme nausea, sore boobs, fatigue. I'm now at brown discharge and cramps, so I know what comes next. I'm 34 and ttc #1.
I've booked to see my GP next week to ask about blood test for thyroid function after reading this thread. I have a family history of thyroid issues, so I don't know if it can be genetic. Would the GP test for natural killer cells? Do you know how I can get that done privately?

I'm sorry to read you're on your 4th. It's heartbreaking.

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Whyhaveidonethis · 22/02/2020 00:02

Clearly my TSH is unstable, it was 3.23 last month and 1.39 this week. I will see what the doctor says about it.

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VenusStarr · 21/02/2020 19:56

I know @Livingmagicallyagain, I wasn't sent my latest results but I'll check at the hospital next week.

Livingmagicallyagain · 21/02/2020 19:27

@VenusStarr that’s not much. What were your latest TSH/T3/T4 results?

VenusStarr · 21/02/2020 17:39

Thank you @Whyhaveidonethis will do

VenusStarr · 21/02/2020 17:39

Only 25mg @Livingmagicallyagain we have struggled to conceive - it took 16 cycles for my first pregnancy, second cycle for the next (but I'd had the hsg test too so I think that had an impact). I was prescribed the levothyroxine, started it immediately and then had the chemical that cycle. Maybe a coincidence but considering our history I'm more convinced its related to my thyroid.

Livingmagicallyagain · 21/02/2020 17:13

@VenusStarr what dose are you on at the moment?

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Whyhaveidonethis · 21/02/2020 16:57

And you @VenusStarr let me know how you get on

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VenusStarr · 21/02/2020 16:44

It's definitely worth mentioning @Whyhaveidonethis the recurrent miscarriage clinic told me if it's over 2.8 I could ask to be medicated, so sounds like it's not routine. My GP was not impressed, he just kept saying but it's fine, he did repeat my prescription though. I'm unclear what to do about the dose if I do conceive again, I've head it may need to increase.

Good luck for Wednesday :)

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Whyhaveidonethis · 21/02/2020 16:37

@VenusStarr I've also got the gynaecologist on Wednesday, for my first appointment though. My thyroid function is very up and down too. I'm going to mention it on Wednesday

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VenusStarr · 21/02/2020 14:23

I'm really sorry to hear this @Whyhaveidonethis. I've had 2 missed miscarriages and a chemical last month. I'm going to have a biopsy to check for natural killer cells (nk) to see if there is an issue with implantation. We're paying privately for this as it's not a routine nhs test.

I know your thyroid tests recently are OK, but I've found mine fluctuate - in November mine was 1.9, in December it was 3.06. I am taking levothyroxine now to try and stabalise it.

Could you be referred to the recurrent miscarriage clinic? Mine has done routine blood tests to check for clotting and lupus antibodies - all clear as far as I'm aware, but I'm due a follow up next Wednesday.

Take care x

shelly10111 · 21/02/2020 12:50

@Whyhaveidonethis I feel you, I never realised it would be this hard, two easy pregnancies before and now I'm at a brick wall! Doing everything I can, the folic, vitamins, no caffeine etc xx

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Whyhaveidonethis · 21/02/2020 12:46

@shelly10111 I also have older children. It's just so horrible to feel like my body is letting me down like this.

I've just been to the GP as I'm still not bleeding and he thinks I'm having a missed miscarriage. I've got to go back if I get pain or if I've not bled by this time next week.

I feel so fed up

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shelly10111 · 20/02/2020 12:45

I feel your pain I've just had my second chemical and it's heartbreaking, I'm almost 27 and not sure what causes it ? I've been taking folic each day since and vitamins and hoping this month will end better! Been trying for 6 months now, two healthy children conceived first months so this is all new to me, o feel like a broken woman because it's frustrating !

Livingmagicallyagain · 20/02/2020 11:50

PM me your email address and I’ll simply send you on screenshots of the plan

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Whyhaveidonethis · 20/02/2020 11:47

I will buy the book when I get paid next week. Thank you for all your help. I'll let you know how I get on.

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Livingmagicallyagain · 20/02/2020 10:38

Great that you have the appointment soon.

I was able to fall pregnant, as my TSH was up and down. One reading may not be helpful, and not long ago your TSH was over the range for holding onto pregnancy, it’s very personal for each person though.

I fell pregnant in May with TSH of 1.4 then lost that early as my TSH regularly fluctuated to around 4. None of this was noted until well after 3 CPs.

Thyroid may not be your issue, but worth making sure it’s healthy either way.

It’s so hard, isn’t it? We’d stopped and decided to focus on getting my cycle healthy. Still can’t believe it actually happened. But that as after 4 months of following ISWTE, so I think that also helped, as well as the thyroid meds kicking in at the right level.

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Whyhaveidonethis · 20/02/2020 10:17

So why can't I stay pregnant? I'm leaning towards the fact it's my age, but seems weird I fall pregnant so easily. Oh well I suppose I'll have to see what the gynaecologist says, although somehow I'm sure that I will be left without any answers.

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Livingmagicallyagain · 20/02/2020 09:36

Wow that is great service!

And as TSH definitely needs to be under 2.5 to conceive/support early pregnancy seems you're good to go!

Frustrating now though. My TSH fluctuated so I was able to fall pregnant (I had a reading like yours once last year but the rest were 4 or 4.5 when I look back at my records).

I found It Starts with the Egg most useful once I was under thyroid meds. And acupuncture. 6 weeks now so still early days but I didn't get this far before when my thyroid was fluctuating.

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Whyhaveidonethis · 20/02/2020 07:26

Wow, super impressed with medichecks, they had my tests back this morning!! They only received them yesterday. Still no further ahead though. All came back clear.

4th chemical since May
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ceebee21 · 19/02/2020 20:43

Hi,

I have an under-active thyroid and have had a MMC and a CP.

TSH defo needs to be under 2.5....I am still workinG on that having had medication doses changed frequently...my TSH was over 10 when I had my MMC and I was already on medication!!!

One GP told me it needed to be under 2.5, the other told me my 4.5 was within range.

So frustrating I wish they would just refer me.

I have used medichecks to check my antibodies, they are pretty quick at getting the results back xx

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Whyhaveidonethis · 19/02/2020 20:21

Medichecks received my test today so I should have my results on Friday. I'll let you all know what they say.

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PMB123 · 19/02/2020 17:47

Wow, I had no idea. Had a miscarriage at 8wks in 2017. Only decided to try again last month. Got a faint positive, and then a BFN a few days later. I'm 44, so of course age is a factor. But, after reading this, went back to check regular bloodwork that I had done in 2017 and 2019. TSH in 2017 was 2.91 and in 2019 was 3.57. I wonder now if this could have something to do with it? I feel like crying.