Trying to concieve 11 thread for October!! For us Unlucky ones on 10

Shely, thanks for your lovely message of support. You're right about knowing the facts, I am not due to see af until tomorrow or Friday. And since I'm not a total expert (like some of the gals on here) I don't want to jump the gun You are exactly right; blissful ignorance allows you to hope beyond hope that you are pregnant.

Cobweb, one of the main purposes of this thread is to allow us all to be as self-indulgent as we like, whenever we like. We are all in the same boat, all at different stages. Don't feel bad, it's what we're here for

Cobweb,

I think I speak for everyone on here when I say........

Please, please don't feel like you can't come here and have a good old moan, cry, etc etc etc.

Thats what we are here for. If it wan't for this thread I'm sure alot of us would be weighed down with the pressures of ttc, miscarriage etc.

I really really hope that things work out for you but in the meantime we are ALL here to support you and should things take a turn for the worse (which we are all hoping won't happen) we will all be here for you.

Everyone needs to talk about themselves sometimes (I am possible the worst offender) but thats what we're here for so please don't feel bad. You have enough on your plate already!!!!

Lots of love, sh xxx

Sending you big hugs Cobweb. If only we all had a little window on our stomach so we could peek in and see what's going on in there.

The pregnancy symptoms can come and go, depending on your hormone levels and the fact that your body adjusts to them, so please try not to worry too much (impossible I know).

Thinking of you and sending you big hugs.

Shely, you seem like an immensely strong and positive woman, and your posts have made me all tearful today.

Hi girls sorry I haven't been in touch today.

Feel so guilty just taling about me me me and know that I should probably be on another thread but I feel that we have all been through so much.

No news so far. No more bleeding but I don't feel pregnant today. Still got a massive stomach and sore boobs but that's it.

Keep fearing the worst and the days are dragging.

Sorry again for being selfish and thinking about myself.

Fingers crossed for those of you testing (((hugs)))

Lots of positive thoughts for those of you BD'ing LOL

and

Welcome to the newies waves good to have you on board (((hugs)))

Hi guys - it's me again!!!

I promised myself a full day of gossiping on MN but unfortunalty my boss DRAGGED me to the pub (kicking and screaming you understand!!!)

Shely - you post moved me to tears and yet you are such a strong person. I'm sure the other mums on here sympathise with the feelings you discribed earlier of feeling you would fall apart if you lost a child. I hope you don't mind me asking but was your ds ill from birth. Your post sounds like you had been prepared for his death. I'm sorry if this is not the case. I haven't had a chance to catch up on everyone's posts.

Anyway, I promise to be more dedicated on Friday.

Oh by the way cd21 here, ov'd at the weekend, bd like CRAZY!!!!! Just waiting now - ho hum!!!!

Hello girls. I'm still here, lurking...this is definitely the nicest place to be on mumsnet.

Onabreakbut...my boobs were exactly as you described this month. They weren't sore but really tingly, I kept looking down to see if they were twinkling or something, it was really odd. Minnie1, I have been chuckling at your description this afternoon!

I am keeping my fingers crossed for everyone, especially those coming up to testing time.

Havent been around for ages...Sorry for not being there for you all like you have been for me in the past..
Welcome to the newbies and Congrats to Mrs flowerpot..Thinking of you Cobweb..
Havent read much of this thread as dont have much time but what have i missed?How the devil are you all....

hi lipstickmum, i know exactly what you mean about testing. in some strange way, it kind of feels, like if you don't test at all, you got a better shot of being pregnant. the reality is it doesn't, and its really better for you to have the facts, no matter how dissapointing and painful, they may be. believe me, i went through this 3 times, in the past few days, and af just came. iam depressed about it, but now that i know, i can prepare myself for another month of trying. i wish you lots of luck that maybe you will get that + result you are looking for, but if you don't, ya got us here to support you for yet another month! hundreds of us here are in the same boat. God bless!

I am desperate to test!!!

For:
it will put me out of my misery

Against:
I will be miserable if it's BFN
It could be too early, but I don't monitor my cycle too well atm so I'm not sure (cd27)

I said I'd wait till Monday unless AF arrives sooner. I obviously have too much time on my hands right now. Will go for a walk with dd

SHELY
Sorry about AF, It always show's when you just don't want it !!!! I have to admire you, you have such a positive nature.. Hope this month is your..
And you will have all of us, if needed.

Tess- no info on the boobs, Just says that they could be swollen and tender, i fell big but don't really know.. I had a meeting with my boss and i had to take of my jacket!!! hangers is all i can say.. I could have nearly hug my jacket on them!!!!! it has to be the cold weather!!

Shelly what a loveley posotive person you are. I feel quite hunble. Well done you xxxx

no more af's for anyone the bus stops here lol!

OMG that is so funny, tessiebear, my guys been wanting me to get that brazilian wax, for awhile, not that iam super hairy lol, but he just loves the butt, and ya know, that position for sex, so i may just do it. gotto get the mojo coming for this month, did it hurt really bad? definately worth a try.

anyway, about my son. he passed on 8/21. i always thought if he ever passed on (which i never let enter my mind for his entire life, i couldn't think about, or come close to even discussing the possibility, not even with my counselor), i thought i would surely lose my mind, and end up in the looney bin or something, but i held it together so well, it frightened me, was i doing the old "repressing" my feelings thing?? totally have a breakdown down the road somewhere? i mean, i cried, and i mourned, and i planted a tree in his name, but i didn't go loco, as i expected. ya know what, it's strange, but i feel like he's the one who gave me the peace not to fall apart and go insane. he's up in heaven now, and he's no longer in any pain, and he's happy, and i can feel him letting me know that, so i can have some peace inside. i only hope my next child, will have half as beautiful a spirit as he always had. cry i know he's with me. i appreciate your condolenses very, very much!! you guys are so sweet on here!

hi everyone
ive been ttc for a while now,my af is due in bout 4 days and for last 4 days i have had stomach cramp like feelings down really low,ive never had this before,any ideas as to what this is??

i had to pop in and see how everyone is doing. As a former member and founder of this months thread i wanted to see how you were all getting on and all i can say is WOW

Well done to the graduates

and so sorry for the af's but that does mean more bding

Im on cd 18 now and ov'd early on cd 9 or 10 and i swear to the heavens above that i am pregnant otherwise i am going nuts. I have no obvious symptoms its just a feeling, an aura iyswim. Something is different. Anyone experince this

My boobs arnt sore or tender but they are noticably just there, im aware of them, like when i put a top on it feels tighter, if someone brushes by me i feel it,when i go up and down the stairs i can feel them rubbing, my nip nips are tingley. Its so hard to explain but i bet some of you know what i mean

Two nights of waking with a hot sweat (unfortuanltley it wasnt Dp trying it on)

And my eyes, yes my eyes, they fell heavy and glazed but when i look in the mirror they are really bright and sparkly.I look really healthy.

Ill let you know how i get on, good luck to you all. Tessie bear any graphic details of anything you need to share with us xxxxx

Tessiebear, my eyes water at the mere thought! Shely all the best for on going tests and for this coming month +++++++++ Sweetheart I'll probably not get the chance to catch up with you before you're off again - on shift until tomorrow at 2.30pm - too lazy to read back down the thread, but have a good time whatever you're up to - can you leave the cake with runtus again?

Cobweb, another day closer, thinking of you, take care x

Shely - Sorry about your AF. I forgot to say when i posted earlier but - so sorry for your devestating loss.
Re: spicing things up for BDing - last month i had a Brazilian wax - certainly did the trick

well, unfortunately af reared her ugly head this morning, after being almost 7 days late boy oh boy is this a painful one. craming and backaches like never before ughh, at least now i can safely take a painkiller. iam quite dissapointed. even though i say i won't get my hopes up, i guess i can clearly see now, i kind of did. i guess it's impossible for us gals not to right? gotto drag on for yet another month! i am starting to use my clear plan easy monitor today, and now i can schedule an HSG test appointment for mid-month, in this cycle, plus we have a specialist appointment to go to tomorrow morning, so at least things are getting done.

as for the ultrasound, the damn technician, would not disclose any information about the test results. there was a sign in the waiting room that say, don't even ask, but i can usually finagle an answer out of them one way or the other, this time---nothing!! i was dissapointed, cause i was so nervous about the test, especially after my hellish nightmare about it, but i gotto wait till this afternoon to hear. i know now for sure, it's not going to tell me iam pregnant at least i got you gals to help carry me through another month. i better get to the store, and get some new lingerie, to fire up the hubby's engine this month. he's got alot of work to do, wink, wink. thanks for soo much support, you gals are the most awesome bunch of ladies, i have ever encountered. i'll keep you posted!! ps- wow i see why you have to keep making new threads, you guys can chat, i love it

Tessiebear - its been happening for a while (bout 5-6days) boobs are'nt sore as such.. CD27 for me.. havnt got any other symtoms though.. I'll have to look on the net and see if i can come up with an answer..

Minnie- my nipples are EXACTLY the same today!!! I have been wondering if it is the weather or "something else" (am CD 28 and symptom hunting!)

i know keep checking in,
I have put off testing until the wkend..
A quick question!!!!
Does anyone have this problem?? When its cold does anyone feel the nipples tingling ?? Mine are gone mad.. I have even started to wear a body wamer jacket.. and i'm in an office all day. HELP!!!

Gosh - its a bit quiet on here today - where is everyone - anyone testing today?

Thank you so much Bibi20 that really makes sence now. This is the first month that i have been able to use a test that i can use everyday so i think you are right i haven't really noticed till now. Maybe this is where we have been going wrong. Thanks again.

Bibi, that was a really comprehensive and well explained description of ovulation, cycles, luteal phase and all that.

I haven't really started to monitor anything like that... yet. We're in about our 3rd month of ttc, so I didn't wanted to try and be as relaxed as possible at the beginning!!

cd27 here big sigh Keeping busy, trying not to think about it.

Hi Tania2

I'm no expert either, but had a few thoughts:

Firstly think this is the month you were taking the chinese herbs - this could well affect the length of your cycle, so might not be easy to compare to previous ones?

If your luteal phase is at least 10 days this should be long enough for implantation, and if you ovulate on day 17 then a 10 LP would give you a 27 day cycle so this would be consistent with your previous cycles...

Can't remember your history but have you been checking your ov dates before now - could it be that you always ovulate a little bit later in your cycle (I do, but my cycles aren't considered 'long' as they're 28-32 days with a 12 day LP) but you are only aware of it now because you're checking more?

Another thing is that, as I understand it, whilst your ovulation can be delayed / variable, your luteal phase is always the same length, so if you do ovulate later than usual, your cycle will be longer but that shouldn't affect your chances.

Hope that helps and doesn't just make you more confused!