TTC after miscarriage - February 2020

@TerribleImagination thank you!
My last two pregnancies (my two losses) I didn't get symptoms of AF which is a sign I know I'm pregnant but this time around I'm windy and bloated but not strong AF symptoms. Can early pregnancy symptoms be different with every pregnancy? I'm driving myself craZy arghh xxx

@shhhhs I’m doing a lot better this week, the first week I just felt so numb and empty and was going between being angry to just felling so low and crying all the time. I went back to work then and it has been good for me as the girls there were so good and I could take it easy whilst still getting my mind off everything. Also I found I was taking the anger out on DH so staying at home for longer would have just ended up being toxic. Have talked it through with a few friends too who’ve been through it and have come out the other side with healthy babies and it’s all helped immensely. I haven’t cried in a few days now! I know it’s all so raw still tho but I hope you continue to feel better over the next few weeks.xx

@GoldenBauble thanks so much for giving some good clarity on the hcg!! It’s really good to know and def makes it less stressful seeing a positive at this stage! And not an imposter at all!!😄 Even if not TTC right now we’re all unfortunately (and hopefully more fortunately for the future) on the same journey together regardless of the month!!

@goldenbauble that's good to know that its possible ovulate when still have HCG in the system.

Hi all, I'm on the jan thread but going to be hopping on to this one too! I'm not actually ttc until March so a bit of an imposter at the minute but I'm hanging around for company and positive stories 😂.

This is completely anecdotal and based on my experience but 4 weeks after my surgery for a MMC my pregnancy tests were still showing as being positive. Epu did bloods which showed as being 'borderline negative' and my hcg was 9. My period arrived 5 days later and I never got a negative pregnancy test before and I must have ovulated two weeks before when I assume my hcg was still reasonably high! I was convinced my period wouldn't come for another few weeks when I was still getting positive pregnancy tests so came as a pleasant surprise 😂

@sprkl I can't really say. I think I'm healthier and have not really had a cold this winter, and I have conceived twice....but I've also miscarried twice, so j don't know if that means anything. Just going to try again for third time lucky

@leok83 I'm sure it won't be long for you 🤞😁. How are feeling emotionally now following the MC? I was struggling with hormones horrendously, each day seems to be a little better though and today is the first day I haven't cried, winning!! 😂

@shhhhs ah yes I suppose that prob is why yours is routine as you MC naturally. Ya a lot of people do seem to get period at 4 weeks so def looks good for you especially if your HPT was so faint, hopefully I won’t be far behind you too🤞!!!

@leok83 yes I had HCG levels checked as routine. My miscarriage was natural with no intervention needed so whether that's the reason? They said it needed doing incase the pregnancy was in an unknown location. The midwife at the time said if the levels had been under 500 they wouldn't ask for another blood test, due to being just over that threshold I had a second test. Will be interesting to hear those results tomorrow to all how quickly it has dropped. A lot of people say the have had their period return at 4 weeks-ish. If this is the case I guess it makes sense for ovulation to be around 2 weeks after miscarriage. Of course everyone is different and depends on cycle length. I also wasn't told to do a HPT and the thought didn't even occur to me until reading posts, my result was very very faint so I'm hoping my levels are pretty low now. I definitely agree with you about asking for another blood test if you don't get a negative in a couple of weeks. I think I will re-test HPT in a few days to see if it goes completely.

Hey
I was on the last thread.
2 days until AF is due
Got stronger symptoms before my period last month. Just feel bloated this time around. I'm hoping this is the month, it's so frustrating that my symptoms change each month, it gives my hopes up :( xx

@shhhhs yes I’ve been googling the hell out of it too and there def doesn’t seem to be any definite info on it. It does seem from other forums I’ve read that some ladies def ovulated with low levels but they seemed to be under 50. So hard to know. I was never actually told to do a HPT after procedure but didn’t want the confusion of ttc of not knowing if was old or new HCG. Were your levels checked as routine after the MC? I think if I’m still positive by the 2 week mark on HPT I’ll ask for bloods to make sure it’s def dropping. I thought I’d be getting faint like you but mine is blazing positive within seconds still. It’s so frustrating and really holds you back from trying to move on😔

@leok83 since doing the ovulation test I have been reading loads into and seems I may have been a bit too soon to get my hopes up. I did a pregnancy test afterwards and although at first it looked like a negative, by the end of the time it was a very faint positive so would seem I still have HCG in the system. Been reading and there seems to be a lot of mixed opinions on whether you can still ovulate with this. A lot of opinions on it but not many facts unfortunately! My plan is to continue ovulation testing, and if it drops after a couple of days like it did before pregnancy I will hope/assume it's correct.

My HCG levels were pretty low at 520 on Monday, I was retested on Thursday evening but haven't got the results yet. Would be great it they dropped that quickly but now doubting it 🤦

@Sparkl no worries about the questions at all!!I used it to confirm ovulation mainly, haven’t been doing it long enough to see a pattern immediately preovulation but from what I can see the dip wasn’t too obvious so doubt I’d be able tell I was about to ovulate unless had a good few charts similar. I did I. Combination with OPK though..used both the cheap internet strips and CB smiley indicator so knew for definite what was happening and when! My OPK strips never really looked like a peak at the darkest point so I was glad BBT confirmed I had def ovulated. My DH said I was a walking chemical experiment 😂 honestly knowing what’s happening and when keeps me sane but I know other people could be driven mad by it!

@shhhhs good luck! I noticed you are close to me on times of MC (mine was 11 days ago), have you done a HPT to confirm it’s def your LH increased and not just false positive from HCG still in the system cause mine is still coming up as strong positive on HPT yesterday morning so an OPK would also look high but would be a false positive. 🤞it’s not for you and you are going to ovulate soon!!

@shhhhs 🤗🤗good luck!!

@Leok83 yeah I think I need to get a bit more organised doing the temping. So you mostly use it to confirm ovulation happened or do you usually notice the temp dip beforehand too? Sorry for all the questions!

@Timeforanamechangeagain1 thanks for sharing the supplement info, I haven’t seen any consultants so have just been going off my own reading and have read a lot of contradictory things! Have you noticed any results from any of the supplements you tried? (I’m only on first cycle of vit c and d)
I only heard recently about that 3 months egg maturing idea, and like you was trying to think back to what was happening at that time. This is my fourth cycle since mc so hopefully less stressed out eggs!

Just did an ovulation test and it's says 'high'. Exciting! 😁🤞🍀

Thanks @newmum2020. I think I will start testing today just to see what it says. It's been 9 days since I misscarriaged so hopefully heading towards ovulation. I have been incredibly lucky with my previous pregnancies in that they happened so so quickly, fingers crossed it's the same this time 🤞

Hi ladies I will join you! TTC after miscarriage at 8 weeks in November last year. First AF arrived Xmas eve. I only track using Fitbit ( was accurate last time as only DTD once, on day of predicted ovulation, when we conceived in October) I am currently 12DPO and AF due Tuesday....no symptoms at all whereas last time I had Uber sore boobs but I just can't remember if that happened before or after period was late!

@shhhhs I noticed you'd asked about OPKs after miscarriage. I tried this and got positive OPK on 9th Dec then AF turned up two weeks later which seems spot on! I just didn't get pregnant obvs😢but I've read about lots who do in that time before first period. The only difficulty is knowing when to test as you don't really know where you are in cycle (unless you just have loads and test daily!) I just picked random days!

Sorry for everyone's losses. Good luck and I look forward to sharing this journey x

@Annie0425 the consultant prescribed 5mg of folic acid, so that's what I'm taking. I am considerably overweight though, so that may be why.

We had a postmortem on the twins and I know that the

@Annie0425 I don't mind the questions :) I've been working with a nutritional therapist on the supplements, although I do my own research as well to ensure I understand what I am taking. So for eg most fertility docs recommend C0Q10 in preparation for IVF for egg health and quality, some miscarriage specialists recommend omega 3s and vitamin d. I've been taking them for a few months now, not just since the miscarriages (the second was only last week) although I've not been on them the full three months generally recommended to address egg health before you start trying, iyswim. I did work out that with the first miscarriage, that egg would have been maturing just as I went through the single most stressful experience of my life last summer, and the second miscarriage egg wasn't too far behind. The stress could have affected things. I don't know if that's nonsense but rationalising it in my head like that has helped a bit. I've had the Arvigo therapy once before, just after my first miscarriage. I don't know if it helped (I did get pregnant again!) But I found it very relaxing. I wasn't keen on the therapist so I'm just seeing if I can find someone else.

Thanks @Ejb86 and @Timeforanamechangeagain1 what dose of folic acid are you both taking? Any reason your were prescribed the higher dose?
Wow that’s a long list of supplements
Timeforanamechange... Are they all doctor recommended? have you been taking them since the beginning of your fertility journey or just after the MC? I have never heard of the Arvigo abdominal massage. Have you tried it before? (Sorry too many questions!!)
You are so strong to be making so many positive changes! Sorry that your journey has been so difficult...sending lots of love...hope you are recovering okay after the d & c and fingers crossed third time is your lucky time!!
I am thinking if I do get a bfp, I might ask for a test to check progesterone levels...didn’t get it checked in this pregnancy and I keep thinking what if that’s why I had the MC!!
Hi @henryshome... good to hear fro you...I am okay...work is keeping me busy so that’s taken my mind off everything... I know how you feel regarding work and colleagues....I initially found it hard to care about deadlines, priorities etc and had the constant feeling that all this doesn’t really matter...but I am better now, I keep busy and try not to think about it too much and carry on with things. But I agree it’s very difficult...

@TerribleImagination it really is upsetting. It doesn't help that next week we hit the date that our babies would have been born, had all been well. I'd hoped we might have been pregnant again by then.

@TerribleImagination sorry I’ve no idea why that cut out the first half of what I said there and tagged you 🤦‍♀️ Very annoying and can’t figure how to edit or delete it!

Meant to have tagged @Sparkl!! Take 2! I tend to wake up to pee at 5.30 but have alarm set for 5.45 in case I don’t and will go back to sleep after. Def works best with a consistent time for temp. I use the fertility friends app to put in details which def seems the easiest app to read charts from. Second half of what I’d said is in post above just for confusion😄!!