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IVF students! for August and Sept, come and join us and lets share the hope and prayers!!!!!

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tempi · 23/08/2007 19:09

Hello girls, just wanted you to know that there are 2 of us that are running with IVF this august and sept ... wondering if you want to join us?

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munz · 21/09/2007 17:45

good luck tempi - I don't know much of things re ivf but keep positive, you never know - it only takes one little fighter

cedar12 · 21/09/2007 17:43

Hi everyone. Just popping in to say hello. Hope everything went ok today Tempi and some of the eggs fertilised. Good luck for the transfer.

Ready · 20/09/2007 21:46

Great minds Choc Thinking of you!! x

Chocolatedays · 20/09/2007 21:41

Tempi - laugh AND cry... I know I did through most of my treatment.. so much easier than having to make a decision and bottle the other one up!

HI READY!! I nearly hijacked one of your threads today - just wanted to say hi!

Choc xx

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tempi · 20/09/2007 21:25

choc and suss.............. thank you so much, I don't know whether to laugh or cry!

You both sound so positive!......I know I should be and I think deep down inside I am!

That 11am phone call will be a killer. I have a new birth visit to one of my clients at 11am!.....how about that for irony!

girls... thank you so much for being so positive! I needed it. My dh is not much a talker and doesn't believe in 'harping' on about things you can not change!

Of course my donors health id far more important than our needs

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Ready · 20/09/2007 21:03

Chocolatedays and Coggy - Biggest, warmest wishes to you both

Chocolatedays · 20/09/2007 20:52

Hi Suss
Come on then, spill the beans - which clinic do you rate!

Choc xx

Chocolatedays · 20/09/2007 20:51

Coggy - my hospital does not believe in short LP either.

Did you see my post about acupuncture with a gynae specialist? His take on it is short LP is often a sign a a problem in the first half of the cycle.... in which case even a truck load of progesterone supositories wouldn't help.

Choc xx

Chocolatedays · 20/09/2007 20:48

Hi Tempi
5 is good and 65% fertilisation is the average.
I get the impression most clinics are trying to keep the level of stimulation drugs as low as possible and means 5-8ish seems to be the norm - it is much kinder to your donor's body and health (they are trying to avoid OHSS/the +30 egg scenario which is severe health threat).
I understand you were hoping for more - & hoped to have two put back and save some just in case in the freezer.... but from where I stand it is still looking good.

I sincerely hope it is your time - it is frustrating there is little you can do to help things happen - just take good care of yourself.
with love Choc xx

suss · 20/09/2007 20:09

that's good news tempi - as I said you only need one! keeping everything crossed

Coggi, sadly progesterone won't make you have a longer luteal phase, in some people it shortens it but it does help support an early pregnancy.

Choc - yes I have been at the same clinic. they have a good embryologist there which is apparently the most important thing. yep I can tell you most things! I've done long, short and flare protocol (flare is my favourite, if you can have a favourite!)

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tempi · 20/09/2007 19:43

They got 5 eggs from my donor and she is disappointed!

They will ring me tomorrow at 11am to tell me how many have fertilised

Don't really know how I feel, a very selfish part of me wanted more eggs than this

The emryologist says 50-60% usually fertilise.

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coggy · 20/09/2007 16:35

Ooh...todays the day Tempi....how's it going?????
Six is excellent.....!

Thanks for all of the support...I've been really snowed under at work this week so this is the first time I've been able to get on MN!

I haven't had progesterone pessaries with the IUI Rosy....although I did have an extra shot of hcg to trick my body into thinking it was pregnant and that gave me a LP of 14 days.
My point of annoyance though is ...if that is my problem....why isn't there something they can give me (eg.progesterone pessaries) before needing to go down the IUI/IVF route...it could've sorted me out YEARS ago and been a much lesser strain on us and the NHS fund!

Chocolate...I wrote to my consultant with reference the short LP (I also didn't see a specialist consultant for years and now...after a total of seven years of trying...I have seen him once ....that can't be right surely??!!!)
Anyway, my original local consultant wrote back and basically said he didn't believe in short LP?????!!!!!!
And the specialist consultant wrote and said that IUI would sort it out....which is fine...but....back to my origianl point of why couldn't something less invasive be done sooner??

I will definitely ask them about my raised FSH levels and if donor IVF would be a better option for us.

Sorry...this is pretty long!

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tempi · 19/09/2007 22:09

Thanks everyone for your advise! very much appreciated, I am in an NHS hospital, but I am a private patient, so I am expecting that my consultant will perform the EC and ET. I am at the Leeds General Infirmary. If I don't see the consultant I will be asking why!!!!!!! I also work for the NHS, I am a Health Visitor.

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Chocolatedays · 19/09/2007 21:13

Hi Suss
Trying again soon (2nd attempt - no kids so far!)

Any advise or top tips - you have bags of experience and success - have you been with the same clinic the whole time?
Choc X

RosyBelle · 19/09/2007 20:59

I saw my consultant once at the beginning and then not at all until he did both EC & ET.... so its not unusual... both my cycles were privately funded...

If there is a good crop of eggs they can split it on the EC day - and do half IVF & half ICSI... it means that if IVF didn't work so well you still get a chance with ICSI.. but if your consultant says you will be fine with IVF then thats good news... and its cheaper!
Good luck Tempi xx

suss · 19/09/2007 20:53

I am at the chelsea & westminster and usually my consultant performs the egg collection and the embryo transfer, but I know in the nhs it is not uncommon not to see a consultant during treatment. DS was our 10th ivf attempt and I am plucking up the courage to give a fourth attempt (since ds) if I am not too late in November. Good luck tempi I hope everything works out - I am sure it will. Choc you seem to have much experience of the fertility clinic! Are you trying again?

Chocolatedays · 19/09/2007 20:34

I didn't see a consultant through mine either.
Are you at Hammersmith?

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tempi · 19/09/2007 20:09

We are private patients in an NHS hospital, but we have never seen a consultant through all our IVF, do you guys think this is strange??????? apart from the initial start consultation. A registrar had a look at dh sperm analysis and he said it was that good we do not need ICSI

all our appointments have been with a donor nurse or a junior doctor!

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Chocolatedays · 19/09/2007 18:53

Not sure who amy is!!

amy = any!

Chocolatedays · 19/09/2007 18:52

Hi Tempi - amy news or just waiting?

All the best for tomorrow.

RosyBelle · 18/09/2007 21:37

Oh sorry tempi - I didn't know coggy had previous history with other problems. I thought that her IVF was using her own eggs. Sorry to be talking about you coggy!!

I mentioned on the other thread my fertilisation rate of 100% - & choclatedays is right - this was with ICSI. IVF may not produce such a high success rate but as they will be self selecting sperm they may be great embryos... its all a juggling act I'm afraid but the consultants will guide you in the right direction.

Chocolatedays · 18/09/2007 21:26

Hiya - I saw you have another thread on the go - and I agree with the qual vs quant comments.

Are you doing IVF or ICSI. Fertilisation rates are higher with ICSI (pay for this if Private and may be able to ask for it if NHS)
Down side with ICSI is you loose the natural selection process ... but may be wortha quick chat with teh embryologists??

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tempi · 18/09/2007 21:19

choco.......You do make me laugh!!! yes we only need 2 embies to transfer! but would have liked some to freeze in case they don't 'take' as we will never ever find another donor and can not afford another IVF cycle!

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tempi · 18/09/2007 21:15

rosy! sorry...... I meant any IVF will provide the hormones to sort out coggy's short LP...I only mentioned donor IVF cos of coggy's history!

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Chocolatedays · 18/09/2007 20:43

Hi Tempi
6 good size and 7 small ones is great. It may well be a few of the 7 also mature enough too.
6 is plenty! (assuming you don't want more than 6 embies tranferred )
Good luck for Thurs!!

Hi Coggy
I also have a short luteal phase (8-10 days). I have been told by Hammersmith Hospital they do not think it is a problem and one of the docs has a 20 day cycle and 8 day LP and two kids naturally. (of course I was not jealous at all!!!).

However.... my acupuncturist is interested in the short LP and he is the first person to have said he thinks my short LP is less about the quality of the second have of my cycle and more of a problem with the first half. His treatments have made me ov earlier and is starting to lengthen the LP.

In my experience of IVF my LP was still shorter than 14 days - and next time I may have intramuscular progesterone injected for 14 days past transfer... so there are things that can be done... so don't despair.

Hun - if you can, don't fret about IVF - there is plenty of time to do that when you are going through it!