TTC after pregnancy loss - Thread 33- huddle up and bring on the BFP's

@Shefliesonherownwings sorry to hear about DH. Maybe he feels a bit better today? 😊

@BunnytheBlueWhale no idea about baths and temperatures but I don't think you need to worry too much about it. For men and their swimmers I believe there's more caution to be exercised. Saying that DH and I've happily sat in the bathtub and DTD after and I think one of those times resulted in a BFP, so....

I know we all try to do what we can in our fertile week! But don't deny yourself some of the pleasures that make you feel great! Being in a good mood and stress free I'm sure goes some way to helping TTC!

Thanks! @Avocuddles No I have no idea either! I ended up just having a shower but going into the 2WW now so will try to avoid v hot baths L! 🛁 Hope you’re ok

Ps an article I read online advised no warmer than 103 degrees Fahrenheit but I have no concept of how warm that is!

@BunnytheBlueWhale I definitely had hot baths all the way up to my BFP. I'm still loving baths now but making them a bit cooler. The second time is got a BFP I'd spent a whole day during the 2WW at a spa enjoying saunas and hot tubs and implantation still happened properly (the issues were later on) so I personally wouldn't worry too much about the bath. If you're concerned maybe just make it a little cooler so that it doesn't significantly raise your heart rate?

ok, not on

And I mean hot baths.

Selfish question - do we thinks baths are on around ovulation time? i.e. not quite 2WW but not tracking and think I’ll ov in the next day maybe

Hi all. @Avocuddles thanks for that picture, it's really helpful. @Mumlili8 sorry you got a BFN, has AF arrived?

Typically now that we've decided to properly TTC this week, DH has an injury downstairs so not sure we will be able to DTD again this week which looks like my FW, I suspect ovulation will be in a day or two going by CM. We DTD Sunday but I'm not holding out now for this month. We'll see what happens.

Fingers crossed more of us will be moving over to the graduates thread soon enough.

Can’t wait to join! @Avocuddles dreaming of rainbows

@Morganmom Sorry just seen this. I would try to do it two days after peak but only if we are up for it. We get tired too! I am not actually tracking this month but I think I’m due to ov tomorrow and will try to dtd til Friday but we don’t necessarily dtd very day anyway

Pregnant after loss and dreaming of rainbows.... www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/3801729-pregnant-after-loss-and-dreaming-of-rainbows

@SunStruck @LASandOtto a place to share without fear. Hopefully plenty more to come join soon!

I will still be hanging around here though to follow everyone's stories.....

@SunStruck an early pregnancy thread sounds like a great idea!

Working away and just about to go out with my team for dinner. Grateful that I have the (genuine!) dry January excuse to get me through.....

Hi all!
Seems there have been some busy bees, congratulations to those with BFPs!

I'm currently awaiting my period. I'd be really shocked if I was pregnant but I cant help but hope. Cd24 today... cycles are normally 23/24 days with the odd 27/28 every few months.

@Mumlili8 sending a hug! AF arrived for me yesterday 3 days early 🤦🏻‍♀️

@Avocuddles thanks for the link to supplements! X

@SunStruck I think that's a good idea! I don't want to be on a thread where everyone is way ahead in case something goes wrong - of course, hoping it won't. But after two MCs I think we all err on the cautious side. Cautious optimism, right? 😊

@avocuddles I had a quick look at the thread and I saw lots of ladies 6+ months into their journey! I'm with you, I definitely do not feel confident enough to join a thread like that. Thinking of maybe starting a "limbo-thread" for between now and the 7 weeks? 😅 we could carry on on that thread if all goes well too, and more people who will hopefully get BFP:s on this thread can join? 🤔

@Avocuddles thanks I’ve been staring at this graph all morning! I’m a visual person so it’s great and congrats esp on getting it on a one time shot!!! I hope I can get my BFP that way. We just had our pregnancy lost in Nov so 2 months out but we still really want it

Awesome! Cuz I just feel like added stress takes away from it. My husband looks at me like “ do u need me to get on that whipping post again” even though usually he luvs to do it!

@SunStruck it's at The Graduates of TTC after pregnancy loss thread #6 - 🐧 The Penguin Huddle 🐧 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/birth_clubs/3767241-The-Graduates-of-TTC-after-pregnancy-loss-thread-6-The-Penguin-Huddle

I was on it previously, at that point most ladies were early on but a lot are quite far into their pregnancies now. I don't think I'll feel comfortable there until I've had my 7 week scan as at this point my default position is to assume the worst. I'm either 4 weeks or 4 weeks 1 day today.

@MissSparkles81 the gist of it is that days -3 to -1 (before ovulation) all have a very similar chance of success, but even at day -4 the chance is high. Good to know there are multiple opportunities!

@Sunflower1608 I definitely see a line too.

@Mumlili8 I am so sorry about your BFN ... sending you lots of love.

So AF is finished for me so back on with the opk's this morning. @Avocuddles I couldn't download that image but I got the general gist of it. It was really helpful so will def try and try being the word to dtd a few times before ovulation this month.

@avocuddles sure,where is that thread? Or should we start a new one? I also concerned it might be triggering, but not sure I want to join a fully fledged graduates thread where people are near full term (as it is still so early for me). What's your thoughts?

Thanks @avocuddles and @lasandotto for your thoughts in regards to the digital test. I'll try to hold off for now :) I'm currently 4 weeks and 1 day. Early!

Hi all.

@Mumlili8 I'm sorry you've had a BFN. Crossing my fingers that the show's not over until AF arrives....

@Morganmom (and others) you might find the image below helpful re the optimum times to DTD - this comes from my fertility clinic. They also recommend sticking to every other day (maybe with a 'bonus' go after a peak opk) as this gives the swimmers sufficient time to recharge in terms of both volume and speed. This said, this time round we had been using contraception in anticipation of starting fertility meds, and only had unprotected sex on the day I received an encouraging (though not definitely peak) opk. It feels a bit strange that it took just one shot as when we started our TTC journey we were at it like rabbits but it took a full year to get my first positive.

@SunStruck I also took ubiquinol and vitamin d whilst TTC. I was on monthly very high dose (prescription) vitamin d when TTC but have had to stop them now and instead take 1000ug daily (400 in the pregnacare plus an additional 600).
Apparently the ubiquinol takes a couple of months to impact on egg quality, I'd been taking it for around four months this time so crossing my fingers that it may have helped. (@Bumblebee999 note that if you do take ubiquinol you should stop taking it if you get a BFP. The one I took was www.amazon.co.uk/Ubiquinol-Softgels-Enhanced-Absorption-Coenzyme/dp/B00U0G1HVU/ref=mpsa17?keywords=ubiquinol&qid=1579598754&sr=8-7 - it's an expensive supplement but this was the best value high dose one that I found).
I do wish I had been prescribed progesterone but try to take comfort in the fact that the recent trials have not found any proven benefit for women in my circumstances. I will definitely be pushing for it if I have a third loss though!
We could probably afford to go private but as I have a fairly complex medical history due to my blood clot I think for the time being it's probably best to remain in the NHS as I have access to a very experienced specialist consultant for that side of my issues. I was told that without the blood thinners my risk of another life threatening clot would be between 1 in 5 and 1 in 2 which are pretty scary odds!
I've used the digital pregnancy tests - they do give an element of comfort but they're notoriously unreliable so I would wait and take one at least a few days after you would 'expect' a particular result, and not get hung up on it if it's not as you expect. I had a 1-2 on Sunday, I might use the other one in the pack towards the end of the week or at the weekend as seeing a 2-3 would be comforting. I do take comfort in seeing pregnancy test lines get darker and darker. I took another FRER last night and the lines were pretty much the same colour which made me feel a lot better (for the time being). In my experience you'll get a 2-3 on the clearblue when the test line on an frer is stronger than the control line.

@LASandOtto yes I'm very glad we've got each other at this scary time! It might be a good idea for us to move such conversations to the graduates thread though soon as do appreciate that early pregnancy talk may be triggering for some?

Thanks @SunStruck. I’m 33 so not far behind you guys. It’s good to know you both have conceived even with the PCO. It was delighted that I could conceive. I didn’t think much about the next hurdle of keeping the baby until I lost it. Thanks for the tips on the supplements I will definitely ask the dr about those. X

@SunStruck forgot to say, I wouldn't bother with the digi tests to say how many weeks. I've read they're honestly just more to confirm yes or no pregnancy, not how many weeks. I doubt they can measure hCG as well as a blood test and there's a lot of variables given how diluted the urine used for the test is, etc. Don't cause yourself unnecessary worry, if you want to check those results go for repeat blood tests as they're accurate. 😊

@SunStruck 6th Feb is a day before my birthday - have my fingers and toes crossed for you. My next scan is the day we move house on 31st Jan so I really hope it will be fine. Continue to keep my fingers crossed for us all! What are you now, 4 weeks and something?

I'm on 2 clexane injections daily, 1 baby aspirin, vitamin D 1000, progesterone pessaries and a daily progesterone injection called lubion. Also taking a thyroid med called levothyrone and predisone. I've got an autoimmune disease and my clinic does test for NK cells and I did the Chicago test too and some values came back quite high. I'm paying for everything privately, my insurance doesn't cover any fertility related items.

@Mumlili8 I'm really sorry about BFN, when is AF due?