The Hut of Gl/Doom Part V- for the unapologetically despondent

oh lissie i know there aren't any words that can make it better, and no, having one doesn't change the need/desire for another. don't know about you, but the fact i have one makes the desire for another greater a) because i know the joy she is and b) perhaps more importantly, i want to give her a sibling as i know how much she would love it.

ok, back down to earth with a crash. i hate myself.

dh's friend has announced that his gf is 8w pg with their first. dh told me onthe phone and i cried, he kept saying "we have one" but thats not the fucking point.

i want another. i want one of my lost babies back. everyone else is moving on,and i cant

Meant unlikely this month - not wanting to jinx myself!

I doubt I'll be any better Lissie tbh - even though it's very unlikely I'll conceive given my tsh levels.

lol and this is the right place. the first rule of the hut is: noone talks about the hut!

talk some sense into me ladies... its 3w since my latest mc, and im symptom spotting. will it never fucking end?!!

dbno - totally identified with your shouting! When all else fails, have a tantrum. Doesn't get you what you want, but lets off steam

Btw santasmissus I have one (dd) already too. It should help, but it doesn't always does it? I always imagined I'd have three - didn't think I'd be struggling to get two.

Sorry - have calmed down a bit now. Sorry for shouting at you too, santasmissus. Sudden rush of blood to the head.

af turned up yesterday. very fed up. oddly don't feel stressed about it, just fed up, think either it's not going to happen or it has been happened but it's not stuck. starting to think a singleton is not so bad even though i had always wanted a big brood. i'm not so bothered or can't be bothered ttc and that may be af talking and it'll all change mid-month and 2ww, who knows?

Can I join too? Fed up with my wonky womb, elderly eggs and stupid tits (actually latter haven't done anything wrong as far as I know, but they're probably in on it).

WHERE IS MY BLOODY BABY???

hello can i join you over here? i've looked in on the thread from time to time but have been a bit shy

Mich, glad to hear you have a consultant appt coming up. Lissie has a lot of good advice about what to ask. I would suggest you ask them to check your thyroid (not only TSH and T4 levels, but anti-bodies too since women with anti-thyroid antibodies are more likely to miscarry/have problems with conception). They don't check it routinely. I had to ask my GP - the Miscarriage Clinic didn't bother to check. I found out my thyroid is not working as it should and I am now taking thyroxine to help this. I really think this problem was the cause of 2 or more of my m/cs.

Ronshar - I'm sure you have pushed to see a consultant but I would recommend going back to the doctors & pushing some more. I am 4 years older than you (so if your over the hill then I'm positively past it)and I did bring my age up in conversation, however after my 2nd miscarraige in 4 months and a mini tantrum(I know it's bad)where I told the exactly what I thought of the - have a third with the same partner - and you can see a consultant rule they referred me.

Seeing a consultant on Dec 31st and illogically hoping the date is a good omen, role of shitty 2007 welcome, hopefully, new baby in 2008.

I feel guilty saying that. There is good and bad in every profession. I hope you get some good ones at the LWH

I know! I am still stunned. Such is my faith in healthcare

ll thats great news!

Rx for prescription - not px. Brain fog that is hypothyroidism See - I can use it as an excuse for a whole range of things now

I can imagine. I thought I'd have a battle tbh, but the dr did not quibble and gave me a px for Thyroxine with a form for bloods in 6 weeks. Apparently I get free pxs for life now - woo hoo. Actually, I'd rather have a baby

Although you are on the upper side of the range, you can show them the research that shows that your levels should be between 1-2 for conception/pregnancy purposes. I wrote a letter outlining all the research findings, because I felt that if I wrote to them they'd be less likely to fob me off. Though the dr agreed without reading the letter (incidentally, she also agreed that the tsh levels for conception should be lower than 4)I asked her to keep it on my file as a record. Just in case anyone had the bright idea of stopping the treatment when I need a repeat px.

As for Dr Google, well she was very positive. She said she thinks it is great that people read widely and take responsibility for their own health. I resisted the temptation to retort "It's just as well as nothing would get done otherwise" I am so relieved that I have been given the treatment.

sorry there should be an underscore between topic and review

Duchesse, I agree with you. My T4 is normal at 15.0. Look at the nhs link (cks.library.nhs.uk/hypothyroidism/view_whole_topic_review)
It doesn't state what the tsh range should be for women with sub-clinical hypothyroidism but it does say that for women with the overt type that tsh should be 0.4-2.0 and a T4 concentration in the upper range. Seems reasonable therefore that it should follow for subclinical. I think you should push for Thyroxine. Reference ranges have changed and are now high at 3.5 Were your anti-bodies checked?

Thanks Duchesse - did you manage to get thyroxine px by your endocrinologist? My TSH is 7.8 so I will be livid if they don't treat it. I posted on the health board seeking your expertise! Having run a search, I saw that you had written a fair bit on the topic.

thanks ready.

LL, i couldnt agree more!