Over 40 TTC - lots of baby dust for us...3!

@Kimm123.. Hi! Sorry I only wish i knew the answer to that question. Someone else might know more esp the ivf ladies. Good luck x

Hi ladies...just a quick question how can i tell if i have enough eggs to concieve and the quality of them xx

Huge congrats @Crittertamer, your twins are beautiful, your DD shares the same first name as my DD1, I love it.

@Karryk, so sorry to hear your news. Onwards and upwards...

Thank you for your kind words ❤️ @Cleozeta @BooseysMum @Russkispy @littlemimosa @Cleozeta

The worst bit for me is the feeling nausea etc for days afterwards...just want to feel normal again. Other than that, onwards we go ❤️

Xx

@karryk sorry you're going through this again. But glad you've got a long term plan. And I'm more likely to go for donor egg myself if nothing happens naturally in the next couple of cycles. And I don't think I want to go through another ivf just to be told my embryos are not viable for transfer, i.e has chromosomal abnormalities. Spoke with my doctor and they already sent me a donor egg form. We've got holidays booked in July and once back, we will see when we start the process if not successful naturally
@turquoiseturtle Good luck with you scan. Hope it goes well!

Welcome @twinkledag. Sorry you have had a bad time of it ttc. Wishing you success now. It happened for me at 40 and I was almost 41 when I had DS. Baby dust blowing your way!

@karryk.. so sorry to hear your news. I think that focussing your energy on your DD will help you cope. Sending you hugs x

@turquoiseturtle ...Good luck for your scan on the 29th x

Mimosa - the cream didn't work for me, not hardcore enough! The pesseries have extended my LP from 9 days to 15 (or 3 days after whenever I choose to stop)
This cycle ovulation was cd14 so I could have a normal 28 day cycle!

Cleo - good to hear you feel your cycle is a bit better. In what way do you think the progesterone is helping? I’m interested to see as having just started on it myself I’m curious. I’m doing the cream morning and night as it only stays on your system apparently for 8-12 hours, even though the bottle says one a day. I think the guidance on the bottle is just general support rather than ttc support. How do the pessaries work?

Karry- I’m so sorry this is happening again. You sound quite accepting of it though and a plan always help you through. Thinking of you 💐

Sorry to hear it hasn't worked out for you karryk

Ooh @karryk sending big big hugs

Thanks @twinkledag and @Constance1234 thankfully not much discomfort yet - the last one wasn't more than my usual period discomfort so I'm hoping for the same this time around. Yes, I've been trying to focus on really enjoying DD rather than obsessing over a sibling as I'd hate to look back and realise that I didn't give her the attention and love she deserves ❤️❤️ if it happens, great, if it doesn't then it's by no means the end of my world albeit sad.

Fingers crossed for you @turquoiseturtle ❤️ I have to have an op before having any ivf (complex gynae history!) so I'm trying to put it off but it might be my last stab if things don't work out with my own stash xx

@@karryk Oh no, so sorry you are going through this again! It’s good you have a long term plan though. If things don’t work out for me this time (and I’m still feeling very unconfident) then we will try for another 6 months with the Clomid and if we don’t have any luck we will try to get our heads around being a one child family. I hope things go as smoothly as they can for you and you aren’t in too much pain xx

@karryk It's so tough going through this multiple times. But you're right, if you just keep rolling the dice, hopefully the odds will come up in your favour!

My long-term plans are similar to yours, i.e. if this doesn't work keep trying until the end of the year and then think about donor ivf.

Scan is booked for the 29th, in six days time. I can't feel any symptoms at all now, so I'm just trying to wait and see...

I'm so sorry @karryk 💐

Thanks @turquoiseturtle ❤️ sadly I know the drill by now as this'll be the 4th loss but I'm taking heart from the fact that I got pregnant so there must be a good egg in there somewhere!

Long term I think the aim is to try for the remainder of the year and early into next before switching to option B which is ivf with donor eggs but there's a way to go yet so let's see what happens.

How are you getting along - when is your scan booked in for? Xx

@karryk - I’m so sorry to hear that. Hang in there, let us know what happens with the EPU scan next week x

Whoops..meant third time lucky....but I am tired as well!!

Morning ladies

Quick update.. After a lull of a few days, the spotting is back and it's heavier so based on past experience and how I'm feeling I think this one is also on the way out. Taking some heart from the fact that I had more symptoms than last time so maybe it'll be tired time lucky at our next attempt.

Don't have time to go to the docs this week so will go next week and get a referral to the EPU to scan to make sure everything is passing through.

Gutted but on I go....

Xx

And why not 🤣

Things fine so far, plodding through another cycle. Much better than last cycle so far but I still don't think there will be any success, but I like having the control and predictability of the progesterone pesseries

Cleo - thanks for your thoughts. I do feel a bit weird slapping it straight onto my vag lol. Might try just a teeny tiny bit and see what happens though. For kicks😆 How’s things with you?

Mimosa - I've never heard of applying it to the privates. I think it's only supposed to be places like inner arms & legs, soles of feet, palms of hands, bum cheeks & face

welcome twinkle - don't give up hope, you have eggs so you have hope.

Hmmm - so sorry about AF x

Hobbes - congratulations on your 20 week scan - great news - it gives me such hope:-)

To answer a question from up-thread - I'm using Biovea Progesterone cream. It's 'natural' progesterone and is a really nice cream. It's easy to measure and apply. I'm only on day 3 of using it so have a way to go yet to get a true picture of it but hope that helps. I'm about 4/5DPO so i'll be using it for at least another week or so yet. My only query about it is this - if anyone can help - most websites say to apply it onto your skin where it is thin (so inner arms, behind knees, chest etc) so that it goes straight into your blood stream and not into fatty areas where it can just be 'stored' and will accumulate. Hoevever, I'm also reading that it should be applied onto the labia and vagina walls so it's as close as possible to your uterus and ovaries.

Anyone shed any light on this?!

Thank you @Hobbes39 for sharing your story and good luck with the twins! Wishing you safe delivery 😊

Who did you cycle with?

Hi @twinkledag - I remember you from before too . Sorry to hear you are struggling, but I dont think it has to be the end of the road for you, however only you and your DP can really decide that... I really had to be convinced to go for this round as like you i had multiple rounds and no reward, and money aside I just felt I was getting to that point I couldn't keep banging my head against a brick wall. We started IVF when I was 38.5, we transferred 9 embryos in total before these 2 (2 fresh, 2 fresh,1 frozen, 2 fresh, 1 frozen, 1 frozen) and all I had was a CP and 2 MMC to show for it. So we did this round being absolutely clear that it was def our last as I was approaching 42 and just had had enough.
Thank god we did do it though as I'm here now 21w pregnant with twins, and had my '20w scan' yesterday and all looks good with both babies measuring as they should and hearts kidneys etc all as they should be too. I don't think I'll truly feel we can say 'we finally got there' until the day I have them healthy in my arms, but it's looking good so far! I honestly feel that it was just finally some luck, as we did less this time than before. I think it's difficult to know when to give up, but I was getting close to the point where continuing was more heartbreaking than stopping, but I wasn't quite there... I think that's how you decide really. Good luck xx