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TTC after pregnancy loss - Thread 29 - huddle up and bring on the BFP's!

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Laney79 · 24/03/2019 10:09

Hey ladies, we were nearing the limit on thread 28 so here's a new one.

Roll Call...

Name: Laney79
Age: 39
TTC: #1 since autumn 2017.
2 losses - MMC discovered March 2018, MMC discovered Sept 2018 both at what should've been 9 weeks, bean and bow measured 6 weeks.

@Lilimum6 @Russkispy @Catconfusion @Boboelephant @fnej01 please tag and pass on!

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Catconfusion · 01/05/2019 10:46

I didn't want to read and run. I'm so sorry @Russkispy for your devastating news. My heart goes out to you after seeing what a tough journey you've had to then lose in this way. It's so unfair! I'll be thinking of you today and sending you and your family love! Xx

Bluebelltulip · 01/05/2019 10:46

So sorry to hear that @Russkispy big hugs and hope tomorrow goes as well as it can.

Daisy hope your pregnancy continues well, it's natural to be tentative.

Daisyboo70 · 01/05/2019 10:40

I had ivf in 2017 which failed, got pregnant naturally in February this year and mc at 7wks. We started trying again straight away and had a faint line this morning 15dpo on a frer. I think I'm going to do another in a few days as I don't believe this one, when I was pg in February it was a ready dark line by this stage.

TTC after pregnancy loss - Thread 29 - huddle up and bring on the BFP's!
Russkispy · 01/05/2019 10:35

Bad news for us today. Had our second scan and it showed no heartbeat. All stopped a day after our first early scan at 7w3d. Absolutely devastated. Having a surgical procedure to remove it all tomorrow morning. We both cried out eyes out. And now just getting loads of cuddles from our little DD who seems more and more precious in these shitty situations like this. It reminds me how lucky we were a couple of years ago and fell pregnant first time with IUI. She's so special I can't describe it.

VenusStarr · 01/05/2019 10:25

Hi all, struggling to keep up but I am still reading.

Think my first period after the miscarriage is starting, 2 days after my usual cycle day which I guess is a positive that things are hopefully settling down quickly. Was at the GP yesterday as was feeling very dizzy and sick and my BP was high. He felt it was to do with impending af. Woken with awful cramps but the dizziness and sickness have subsided. Slow start to af but think it's picking up now. Quite emotional, it's horrible having a physical reminder you're no longer pregnant 😔

Got our first fertility clinic appointment next Tuesday. Feeling anxious they'll just send us off to keep trying. Don't think I can face another 16 months.

I also just got baby bombed as I walked into work 😥 colleague told me to give me hope I think but I've just come to my office and had a little cry. The world really likes to kick you when you're down doesn't it?

@MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue hope you get to see the GP and get some support. Fingers crossed for you 🤞

Mistymeow · 01/05/2019 09:45

@lilimum6 I think the chart looks ok, still above coverline. I also have some wacky peaks in my chart this month, largely down to hormones regulating (I'm assuming). When is your appointment? Mine isn't until July so I'll be very interested to hear how you get on. You will be fine, they will take really good care of you and do all they can :)
@boboelephant what lovely news! You must be so pleased and relieved. Do you think you will start enjoying the pregnancy? How are you coping emotionally?
@myheart totally agree with the others. Hope you manage to get a referral to EPU. Ridiculous, you are 4 weeks pregnant if you ovulated two weeks ago.
@frillyfarmer how are you getting on?
@tinypaws the new fertility clinic sounds really promising, hopefully you can get things moving soon.

InDreamland · 30/04/2019 21:44

Thanks @boboelephant, glad to hear your twins are doing well.

@AliceRR fx you're still in with a chance this cycle. Keep testing too.

@TinyPaws sounds like really positive stuff and like some progress is being made on the treatment front.

@Russkispy how are you doing?

Also wondering how @RedRobin7 is doing as not heard from you on here for a while. Hope you're okay x

AliceRR · 30/04/2019 21:40

@KnitKitty 😂 I will keep testing this month but think I might already be out of my fertile window (which would be fine) so don’t need to think about it for a bit but then think I will try to at least seem relaxed about it and try to initiate dtd around my fertile times of the month

@Yukka I think I had clearly / watery cm around that time

@bobo pleased things are going well for you

@TinyPaws sounds like a positive appointment even if not a little frustrating you didn’t get that sooner

TinyPaws · 30/04/2019 20:46

So I went to consultation at a different fertility clinic today. They recommended medicated FET with clexane and prednisolone. I'd previously pushed for prednisolone but my suggestion was poo-pooed by both my previous IVF clinic and the recurrent miscarriage clinic. After spending so much time fighting medical professionals it's weird to have one recommend everything I was wondering about and explain the pros and cons of different treatments and investigations to us so clearly. Treatment at this clinic costs a small fortune but we're impressed and seriously considering it. Got 2 more clinic visits booked in over the next 2 weeks.

Yukka · 30/04/2019 20:33

@alicerr ooh got my fingers crossed for you, my gut feel says you ov’d overnight Friday. With Cm you usually get 2-3 days before ov as your hormones gear up to create the right environment for sperm to thrive. Do you remember any cm last week?

@lilimum6 no internal at rmc for me either, there’s not a lot it would show really. Lots of talking around each mc, when/how it occurred, cycles, anything else on my mind, any other illnesses etc, any questions I had, then sent to give blood, about 12 vials for all the tests, then scheduled a non pregnant scan to check uterus health, position, no unusual growths etc. All results came back together after about 6-8 weeks. Don’t be worried, it’s a positive step and they are specialists x

@bobo so glad it’s going well for you :)

@myheart agree with the others, phone gp and make a complaint. Even if they can’t see you till 5 w they could at least reassure and book you in. Gp will sort it I’m sure.

KnitKitty · 30/04/2019 20:12

@Lilimum6 I didn't have any charts at all, but I did have what I've written down about my cycles (dates etc) so I was more clear when they were asking about average length of cycles and so on. I'm assuming your charts are how you keep track of your cycles, so I'd definitely have them handy.
It'll all be ok. They're there for you. Take your time. Write things down. (Take a note pad and pen). If they ask if you have any questions, take a moment to look through your list and pause for a minute to think if there's anything else. (I tend to rush myself and then afterwards remember things I wanted to ask, so have come up with these techniques with doctors over the years).

@MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue I absolutely agree with what the others have said. a) Talk to your GP b) Raise a complaint if you feel up to it. It's completely unacceptable how you have been left feeling. No reassurance, no sympathy; and the nurse you spoke to seems to have a total lack of understanding of how dating a pregnancy works! Unbelievable! You are already 4 weeks. By 5 weeks they can see if the pregnancy is in place with the gestational sac; and given your history you really should be offered this reassurance!
I'm always keen to play devil's advocate or try and see things from the 'professional's' point of view; but in this situation I cannot fathom why she fobbed you off and made you feel so bad! Sad Hugs. Stay brave, strong lady. xxx

@AliceRR Tell your husband you're happy to take a wait-and-see approach so long as you DTD every two or three days... If he's anything like my OH he won't mind the tracking so much then. Hmm

AliceRR · 30/04/2019 20:10

@InDreamland Oh I absolutely OPK in secret 😬 That sounds a bit weird but we both want a baby and DH knows I’m working towards that E.g. with thermometer by the bed and taking pregnacare conception but I think it’s more likely to happen if he doesn’t think it’s all so contrived

I’m relieved to think I might have already ov as I don’t need to think about it til next cycle but will keep testing in case I still get a positive

Boboelephant · 30/04/2019 19:58

Hi ladies! :-)

Thanks for asking after me @Mistymeow. I am going well thanks. 13 weeks 1 day and I had my scan last week which showed two babies growing well with strong heartbeats. I don't even have the words to explain how relieved I am. We've started telling people and I can't believe that after what the last 2.5 years has thrown at us that this is really real.

I'm sorry for everyone having a tough time. Sending hugs to everyone. Couldn't catch up on everyone but just to quickly say

@Laney79 I hope your mum is ok

@MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue congratulations on your bfp but I'm so sorry for that horrendous nurse. I completely understand how you feel having had a 10 week MMC and a ruptured ectopic too. I can tell you that the EPU definitely need to offer you a scan at 5 weeks to check the sac is in the right place. I have had three 5 week scans. Definitely complain about the nurse and ask GP to make referral for you. I went for my 5 week scan with this pregnancy and then he booked me in for 2 weeks later to check heartbeat due to my history. I know it feels like things wont work out after going through an EP but the odds really are in your favour. And falling pregnant so soon is amazing. I couldn't manage to do it naturally but my babies growing right now are proof that you can have a successful pregnancy after EP. Good luck.

@KnitKitty, @Lilimum6, @strawberrye, @TinyPaws, @InDreamland thinking of you all.

InDreamland · 30/04/2019 19:33

Have been getting very clear CM today though 🤔

InDreamland · 30/04/2019 19:31

Hi ladies. Just checking in. Thanks @KnitKitty, you're right. I need to find a new way to cope with comments etc.

@MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue tentative congratulations. I totally understand how you'd be anxious after what you've been through and it's perfectly natural to feel the way you do. I'd be petrified too. I really hope that bean is all stuck in the right place though.i agree with the ladies about calling your GP. They have to give you extra care for reassurance after everything you've been through. That's disgusting of the EPU nurse, I'd raise a complaint. You can't treat people like that when they're vulnerable.

@AliceRR could you try OPK'ing in secret?

@Laney79 fx for a BFP just before IVF. Try remind yourself that everything should hopefully be worth it when you have your baby in your arms.

CD11 and OPK still negative. Normally have a flashing smiley by now. Really hoping to Ov this weekend.

AliceRR · 30/04/2019 19:27

Well hoping I ov then

AliceRR · 30/04/2019 19:27

So at CD16 my OPK is negative. Tested slightly later today but shouldn’t make a massive difference. Assuming I ov on day 13/14 🤷🏻‍♀️

ale2992 · 30/04/2019 17:43

2dpo over here, exhausted and had bad bloating/cramps today!

AliceRR · 30/04/2019 16:20

*peace of mind 🤔

AliceRR · 30/04/2019 16:20

@MyHeart I would speak to GP as well. Ectopics can be dangerous and while I’m sure (and hope) everything is fine, it’s understandable you would worry and they should scan you even if only for your own piece of mind x

@Yukka I noticed changes in my CM have never tracked it so don’t know if it corresponds with ov but would assume it does 🤷🏻‍♀️ I tested around 5pm the last few days so will do the same but it would be good timing if I ov on Fri / Sat given when we have dtd

On another note hubby still doesn’t believe in tracking babymaking and things it should just happen naturally and is more likely to happen when we’re relaxed - well yes but it’s much more likely to happen if we are dtd in my fertile window 🙄

frillyfarmer · 30/04/2019 14:25

@MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue call your GP ASAP and chat through with them- most EPUs will scan from 4 weeks if you are an ectopic risk, which you are.

Don't stress out too much, there is a large possibility that you have a perfectly healthy and sticky bean in there. My BFP with my first was a real squinter until 6 weeks and he's a strapping chap now. Xx

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Bluebelltulip · 30/04/2019 13:05

Sorry you had someone so insensitive on the phone MyHeartIsBroken I agree with trying the GP.

Laney79 · 30/04/2019 10:56

@MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue that is unacceptable behaviour from your EPAU. Can you speak to your GP? They should be able to refer you for a scan.

I'd contact pals at your hospital too to flag up the unacceptable treatment from the epau nurse. You are clearly upset and need some help and compassion. You are not being unreasonable given your history.

I want to shout at them on your behalf xxx

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MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue · 30/04/2019 10:43

Thanks again everyone for your kind words and support.

I have just cried in my work toilets after speaking with the EPU who were not kind or helpful at all. I am also confused – so going off date of last period I am 4 weeks, although I know I only ovulated two weeks ago. The lady kept saying they wouldn’t scan me until I was 6 weeks and that I am actually now only two weeks pregnant? I know a clear blue weeks would put me at 1-2 weeks so what am I? In the past when I have booked scans the gestation I have said would have always been calculated off the last period. I kept saying to her that I know they may not see a heartbeat and that wasn’t what I wanted. I just need to know it’s in the right place which I thought they could see at 5 weeks? I am so worried and tried to explain that I can’t leave it too late as if it is ectopic again I want to find out in time to take the drugs. I am petrified I will lose my only remaining tube if this can’t be spotted in time. She was so rude and basically told me to call back in two weeks and hung up!! Now feel like an idiot and even more worried and confused!

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