The July 19ers - The rollercoaster continues, scream if you wanna go faster

Thanks @Kinsters. I'm now thinking the focus had shifted ......

So ..........DH finally got his DNA fragmentation results. Doesn't look good and there is apparently a strong link with mc's. Low quality plus not enough good quality swimmers. My head is all over the place! Recommendation is IVF with ICSI or he sees a urologist to hopefully get medication to help with sperm quality. I've told him he must get appointment asap with private urologist plus our GP. I have so many emotions right now and with mothers day this weekend I'm so emotional.

@ratherbeshowjumping that is not what you needed. Definitely need a night out after that baby bomb.

@Rose68 enjoy skiing! I've never skied ever!

@Twittlebee I am also thinking it’s a boy. It will be great for your DS if it is. I do think same sex siblings have a special bond. My 2 boys do fight, but they also play together for hours and they do miss each other when one is away.

@Ratherbe, you definitely can’t tell at 4dpo. Any symptoms you have or don’t have will just be due to your changing progesterone levels.

@Kinsters I think that is a tricky one, I think you guys need to work out what is best for both of you long term. My DH is away a lot with work and I do find it hard, but I guess it depends on the life you have made for yourself where you are.

I am just waiting for AF to arrive, and we are going skiing a week tomorrow! Yay! I am bringing myself into the 21st century and looking at skiing apps. I have never had any way of tracking where I have been or how fast I am going, so this is exciting stuff. @Kinsters do you use a skiing app?

I'm also thinking it's a boy too! DH thinks a girl.

That is a tricky decision Kin of family is really a big part of your lifestyles! And 4 hours is a big move. Would his family be able to move too or is that not possible? Bit much to ask of them I guess

rather a night out sounds great! Hope it's a brilliant time! Sounds like you need it after that pregnancy announcement too.

I know symptom spotting is the worst, and I know at 4dpo it's highly unlikely for anything to be significant but it's so disheartening knowing that the only time I never had achy legs was when I pregnant. Oh well, we'll soon find out next week.

That's really interesting re the charts. I cannot believe how similar they are! Was the purple one the chemical?

@BettySwoll0cks how are you getting on with your OvuSense? I'm tempted to get one if this cycle doesn't work out.

Oh no rather, totally understandable that you feel shit about that.

Symptom spotting at 4dpo is a road to nowhere! If you've made a blastocyst it'll be floating around in your fallopian tubes or uterus right now with your body totally oblivious. I've put my two definite pregnancy charts side by side with my definitely not pregnant chart and up until today (9dpo) they're pretty much identical! I'm expecting an even bigger dip on this cycle's chart tomorrow. Anyway, at 4dpo you really can't know so don't count youself out. Do feel free to wallow though, TTC sucks. I've found it quite refreshing to have a month off (wouldn't do it again unless I had no choice but for me this enforced month off has been good).

I feel so miserable - a girl who rents a stable off of me, who I see at my yard every single day announced her pregnancy today. Completely irrelevant but she hadn't even met him when I was pregnant.

Ffs.

Thank you Kin, I think so too, but aware that I'm slightly biased.

4dpo & my awful achy leg cramps have started. Such a shame as I thought we timed it really well this month

Such a nice looking nose! I'm a bit scared of horses but their noses look so inviting to rub! That's nice that you've got a night out planned. I think it's important to have these "not pregnant" things to look forward to, even if we'd rather not be able to do them.

Not sure why everything's come out bold... but if we are guessing gender, I'm voting a boy too for Baby Twittle the 2nd 🤞🏼

Honestly @Kinsters it's the weirdest thing - poor thing, I hope she doesn't have to announce that she's lost it!

Ps your cat is gorgeous 😍 gingers are my favourite.
This was my horse this morning, very sure that my phone needed to be eaten 😂

Huge congrats on the job @TwittleBee! How are you feeling in yourself?

Sorry you're really so shit @Kinsters.

@Pegase How are you getting on?

Close friends due date today... feeling a bit rubbish, so my best friend has organised a night out for just us on the weekend which I'm really looking forward to. Haven't been on a girls night out since my hen party in May so it's long long overdue 👏🏼

That's amazing about the job! Congratulations! I guess you'll have a boy, no reason for that, I just like guessing!

Next cycle I'm not sure, DH travels away so much. Basically his job is in a city 4 hours away so he's gone most of the week. We're considering moving up to where he works which would be great (although further from his family who we're very close to). In fact it would be the first time DH and I have lived "alone" i.e. no housemates/other family and no going for dinner at his dad's every night (we live in a house just us at the moment but see his dad every evening and weekend).

It's a shame there's no way you reckon you have a chance this month kin . How's next cycle looking?

Yeah 15 weeks now and finding out the sex in a week's time. Also found myself a new job too that know I'm pregnant so that's a relief after being made redundant.

I know Twittle, it's so weird how consistent they are! How is everything with you? You must be well into the second trimester now?

kin that chart is like a complete match for last cycles! And very adorable cat too!

Wow rather that's very strange. Who posts pics of sticks they've peed on?! I hope it works out for her but 7 weeks is really very early to announce (as we all sadly know).

InDreamland I don't know what to suggest, I know the feeling of fearing that you're broken/defective and it'll never happen. I was in a really rubbish place after my Drs appointment where she said my lining looked thin. It's not nice. I'd go for the NK tests if I were you.

My chart is so similar to last month! Almost identical post ovulation. I've also been bitten by mosquitos again so wondering if it's a luteal phase thing cause there's no way I'm pregnant this cycle. Also included a picture of my cat just cause she's cute 😍

@ratherbeshowjumping could you step away from Facebook? Since our first mc in July last year I've been on probably 3 times but not looked at my newsfeed, literally just posted on baby loss awareness and wave of light then checked birthday messages. I cannot face seeing everyone's supposedly perfect lives with pregnancy and birth announcements - I've chosen to be ignorant of their news for self preservation.

Great news on your scans @Buggles1 @Tigsyboo

Thanks @Buggles1. I'm nearing the point of losing all hope.

@Rose68 they don't recommend because it not actually widely accepted in the medical profession so is seen still as not conclusive in terms of research as something that does cause mc. Then if it is found to be something I do have which is so rare it's unlikely then the treatment itself carries risks.

AF is lighter this month. I think I'm broken/damaged and this will never happen. Feel like being reckless and blowing all our savings I had for when I took mat leave and first couple of years supporting our baby.

Talking of not announcing too early... this came up on my Facebook yesterday 🙈

Congratulations on the scans tigsy and buggles.

My DH leaves it totally up to me when we tell people. I'd probably be waiting till a bit later to tell wider friends and family. Last time we saw a strong heartbeat and correct size at 7+5 but then it ended in miscarriage anyway. I'd probably wait till 16 or 20 weeks before telling anyone other than immediate family. If we ever get that far...

My chart is really nice this month. Shame I'm definitely not pregnant!

Ahhh @Buggles1 I'm so thrilled for you! Enjoy your hols!

Hmm maybe I am being a bit harsh then. It was the not telling parents until 12 weeks part that he objected to...! Hope so @tigsyboo, but we did see a heartbeat last time (was below on measurements though) hence why I feel so strongly about keeping it a secret all hypothetically of course 🙈

Ah @Buggles1 I'm so happy!!
I was crying in my scan too, which set the DH and the sonographer off!! 😂😂
Only a few days behind you then as I'm 8+6 today xx

Now you can enjoy your holiday ☀️

Just had the scan @tigsy. I have tears of joy thankfully. We saw a strong heartbeat and seems to be measuring just a couple of days short of expected at 9+2. I can’t tell you how relieved I am. I never seem to stop crying lately but I’m so glad it is this way round this time. Thanks for all your support everyone.

@ratherbeshowjumping I guess I see both points of your hypothetical row.... 20 weeks is a bloody long time not to allow him to share his obvious excitement when you get pregnant.... but telling the world after a positive pee stick isn't on either.

I think when it comes and you are seeing scans with heartbeats and things you will feel more positive and relax a little more. I banned DH from mentioning it until 12 weeks .... but after a great scan yesterday we were chatting away last night about names etc. X

What time is your scan @Buggles1 ? Xx

Yay @tigsyboo congrats on the scan & I'm so pleased that you told your mum, I bet she was thrilled ❤️

@Buggles1 I'm keeping everything crossed for you today 🤞🏼🤞🏼

CD15 today, we dtd Friday (cd11) & Sunday (cd13) (plus preseed). I usually O either CD13/14 so hoping that's enough. I am starting to feel anxious now about not testing/charting this month but up til now it actually has been so refreshing to have a month off.

Had a bit of a mini hypothetical row last night with DH - I said that when I do fall pg again, I want to keep it to ourselves until 12week scan, then only tell parents (& my best friend). I don't want anyone else to know at all until all clear at 20week scan. Last time he shouted it from the rooftops from the BFP...
Apparently I'm being unreasonable & a control freak & our families have a right to know?!