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The July 19ers - All aboard the rollercoaster for a 3rd lucky thread

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Frazzlerock · 31/01/2019 10:32

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The July 19ers - All aboard the rollercoaster for a 3rd lucky thread
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tigsyboo · 18/02/2019 20:06

I dunno about supplements.... I took pregnacare conception last month which messed cycle up - stopped this month and FX it's going right...

I found out my boots own pregnancy supplements today - then suddenly had a churning in my gut thinking - what if I take them and that caused the MMC!! I know it sounds daft, but if conception ones mess with your hormones so much it can fuck up Ov, is there a chance pregnancy ones can be counterproductive too??

I think I'm sticking to my folic acid and maybe get some seperate Vit d and magnesium?? I don't know if I'm being really daft 🤷🏼‍♀️

Frazzlerock · 18/02/2019 19:26

I take EPO too @Betty but only until ovulation. My temps weren't affected by it after ovulation. But before ov they were crazy, like the Rocky Mountains!
I'm interested to see what will happen this cycle on EPO...

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BettySwoll0cks · 18/02/2019 18:51

Crikey thanks @Frazzlerock. Funnily enough I am worrying that I have done exactly that by taking evening primrose oil, which has upped the oestrogen and now my progesterone is low? I don't know how else to account for the low BBT and heavy periods. Really I just need to see a specialist instead of messing about with supplements but I don't know where to go (except the referral to the nhs clinic which I've been waiting for for over a month)

Frazzlerock · 18/02/2019 18:28

A couple of quotes. One from the lady I mentioned below

"Do not take this. I did, against all advice and it gave me a 142 day cycle!!

Its a very strong herb and shouldn't be used unless done so under the supervision of an expert.

Search the threads and you'll find other people with horror stories. Also agnus castus won't increase your chances of getting pregnant. it doesn't make you more fertile."

"AC can in some cases make hormonal imbalances worse.

It can be a bad idea to self medicate with AC: if you really want to take this you should only do so following the advice of a medical herbalist."

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Rose68 · 18/02/2019 18:22

@Betty I’m glad you got to see someone. I think there are a couple of ladies on the over 40’s thread who are taking vitex, one in particular whose LP was quite short.

@edidxb I hope you are having a lovely holiday!

ratherbeshowjumping · 18/02/2019 18:21

What an amazing story... imagine waking up and being given a baby would be my absolute dream

Hope you're having a fab time @edidxb xx

Frazzlerock · 18/02/2019 18:21

@BettySwoll0cks it sounds like you've been given tranaxamic acid?

Re Angus Castus, I've read a lot about this since I was TTC DS2 and it's one of those natural remedies that can jeopardise things. I was warned against it by a woman on here who was like a PCOS oracle. I can't remember why its not good, I think it can really screw up your cycles or something.
But that was 10 years ago. Just be really careful with natural supplements.
I might see if I can find what she said about it.....

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TwittleBee · 18/02/2019 18:11

Yeah I saw that yesterday Buggles ! Bloomin scary for her surely when she woke up and how close she was to being potentially dead with preeclampsia! Imagine finding out you have 2 wombs too! Reminds me of a similar story last year about a teen that went from being perfectly flat stomach to being popped out unexpectedly 2 weeks before she gave birth, she also didn't know she was pregnant.

edidxb · 18/02/2019 18:05

Hi all. I have hardly had any internet as I am away at the moment. But congratulations @tigsy! That's fantastic news!
I have just scanned the last couple of days of posts but sorry about the anniversary @frazzle. I am sending much love.
@@buggles totally know what you mean about being away. I am away at the moment and terrified of having a miscarriage here. But on the other hand being away is keeping me.distracted and making me think of other things.
Good luck tomorrow @pegase.
Xxx

Buggles1 · 18/02/2019 18:02

Seen this?? Oldham teenager in coma wakes up with 'surprise' baby www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-47282950

BettySwoll0cks · 18/02/2019 17:42

Good luck @Pegase, will be thinking of you. Let us know how you are?

The nurse got me in with the GP who I have been seeing already for my referral to the infertility clinic. She gave me some pills to control the bleeding and has suggested we do another blood work to check my levels. Doesn't really explain why this is happening, she said if it's prolonged (ie the pills don't work) then I should have a cervix exam and that perhaps my body is still recovering from the last mc and my hormone levels might still be a bit out of whack.

On that, is anybody taking Vitex- agnus castus? It's meant to help boost progesterone and regulate cycles, really handy for PCOS apparently.

Btw I'm also in the nearly-40 club....

Buggles1 · 18/02/2019 16:42

Understand where you’re all coming from. I carry around our scan picture close to a locket I have with some of my Mum’s hair in it. Both are so precious. Occasionally I’ll get them out but I have to be feeling strong else it ends in tears.

I can’t believe that 111 operator Betty. What the hell is their problem. Hope your appointment has gone ok since though.

Thanks for the ‘almost 40’ support Frazzle! Also told my husband I only wanted a baby and that I didn’t want a party celebrating how much smaller my chances are now. He’s told me to book some time off work at the end of March so I think he has something planned... I just don’t know what yet! My fear now is having a mc while abroad on holiday... not great ay.
Given this is the third pregnancy in a row do you think they’d offer a reassurance scan at 7-8 weeks? Think I may book privately otherwise cause getting to 12 weeks and finding out is unbearable.

ratherbeshowjumping · 18/02/2019 16:37

Glad you've managed to get a slot @Pegase... thinking of you...

@Betty, hope you're ok xxx

TwittleBee · 18/02/2019 16:31

Really got everything crossed for you Pegase I am sorry you have this horrid situation potentially occurring again! Will be thinking of you

Pegase · 18/02/2019 16:20

@Frazzlerock no judgement here- I didn't even get to see my lost one on the scan, all over by that point and still devastated.

Have a referral from GP for EPU tomorrow AM. More lost hours...hope I will at least get the damn scan this way.

Frazzlerock · 18/02/2019 15:07

Get some iron into you in the meantime @Betty

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ratherbeshowjumping · 18/02/2019 14:45

Keeping everything crossed for you @Betty, sounds horrific. Is your DH able to come home and sit with you? xxx

TwittleBee · 18/02/2019 14:44

Ah good! Usually I find nurses pretty good in these situations. Really hope they can offer you something - advice / treatment anything. Heavy periods are horrid

BettySwoll0cks · 18/02/2019 14:42

There wasn't a GP appt available so I'm going to go to the nurse's clinic at 3. See what she thinks, she'll drag a doctor out if she thinks it's really bad. I'm lying in the floor til then, my head is spinning. This is ridiculous.

TwittleBee · 18/02/2019 14:38

Betty i am horrified! that phone call needs to be reported for sure. I phoned 111 in regards to my heavy bleeding a while back and I was sent straight to an out of hours GP who assessed me! Please do get checked out by your GP if you can.

ratherbeshowjumping · 18/02/2019 14:30

@Frazzle it's totally one of those, if you know, you know. As @Betty said, the fierce love you have from the instant you see that line on the test... you can't beat it. I must have spent every other minute picturing what my babies face would be like, dreaming what his/her favourite colour what be, what their first word is... and when that's ripped away...
I still think our mc was caused by the internal examination. We saw a perfectly healthy heartbeat and 2 weeks later, I mc'd. Just doesn't line up...

Comments like all of those are awful... like you Frazzle, my relationship with my mil has irreparably broken down... popping in 48hrs later and asking if I was "feeling ok now?" and then going on to ask whether my family has a history of infertility. FFS.

Omg what an awful woman @Betty....!! Has the bleeding subsided yet? Is it worth going to a walk in centre? I can't believe people can be so rude.

Rose68 · 18/02/2019 14:26

OMG Betty that’s terrible! They are supposed to advise whether you need to be checked out properly. Maybe try phoning your doctor then? Is it still really heavy?

We have just left, fortunately things seem slightly brighter for the long journey home. Our argument was about some olives, bloody ridiculous.

I need to go back and read today’s thread properly now....

BettySwoll0cks · 18/02/2019 14:18

Oh but although she wasn't giving out miscarriage advice, she did think to tell me that I shouldn't ttc again within 6 months of having one. Because it would almost certainly result in another. Thanks for that...

BettySwoll0cks · 18/02/2019 14:14

Just phoned 111 and regretted it. Quite unpleasant foreign woman who said she wasn't there to give out miscarriage advice, and I just had to wait for my referral. I said I know, I wasn't phoning about the miscarriages I was asking advice about the heavy bleeding. And so she said ok well if it's that bad I'll send you an ambulance. So I said it wasn't as dramatic as that otherwise I'd have phoned 999. So then she said she didn't know what I was phoning for. Brilliant.

BettySwoll0cks · 18/02/2019 14:12

As I get older and go through more painful stuff in life, I increasingly believe that you should never judge or criticise someone else's (genuine) reaction to a trauma. I'm not talking about people who you know routinely go in for amateur dramatics but those who experience genuine grief, in a way you don't fully understand. Because you just can't know what's going on for that person, can you? I know a lot of people like that who take the "they're making a fuss about nothing" stance. Really? How the fuck would you know? Would be my reply to that...