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The July 19ers - All aboard the rollercoaster for a 3rd lucky thread

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Frazzlerock · 31/01/2019 10:32

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The July 19ers - All aboard the rollercoaster for a 3rd lucky thread
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Frazzlerock · 26/02/2019 07:26

Hi all,

@Kinsters good luck lovely xx

@Twittle I know they are overstretched but to leave you hanging like this is awful Sad

Hi @dartmoor, I'm so sorry to read this. May I ask why your DH is getting the snip if you're TTC? You don't have to say if you'd rather not xx

I'm not going to keep moaning but things are still shit.

Also, I will open up a new thread as this one is coming to a close soon, though I'm not sure if I can hang around with you guys much longer as I think DP is pulling the plug, at least temporarily if nothing else. Hello heartbreak again!

I will post a link in a sec for new thread xx

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DartmoorDoughnut · 26/02/2019 06:56

Hi guys, I’ve been lurking but hope everyone is ok Flowers

I had another MC in December at 8 weeks which fucking sucked and I’m currently 4dpo and keeping everything crossed that we’ve managed it this month as DH is booked in for the snip at the end of March so this is probably my last chance ... so yeah hopefully third time lucky?!

TwittleBee · 26/02/2019 06:39

I couldn't get hold of anyone after work so going to try again on my lunch break. Guessing they really are over stretched here.

Good luck Kin ! FX.

Kinsters · 26/02/2019 06:21

Thanks Buggles! How are you feeling?

Buggles1 · 26/02/2019 06:14

Good luck @Kinsters, fx.

Kinsters · 26/02/2019 02:07

I think I ovulated as my temperature was up this morning plus the opk I did this morning (a non-IC) was resoundingly negative so I think last night I just read too late. Whichever day it was I'm quite happy with our timing this month and think we definitely have a shot.

So now I'm in the TWW at 3dpo according to fertility friend. Anyone around the same time as me?

Did you manage to speak to a midwife Twittle?

TwittleBee · 25/02/2019 15:43

I also find it a turn on too! (actually so does DH... which is why I think it was post Ovulation that he suddenly realised maybe we shouldnt have been TTC...)

Frazzle I think you have hit nail on the head actually, he does sound like he is putting the pressure on himself. Maybe he feels as though he isnt performing well enough as you two havent had any luck yet (it is common for us women to feel like that after all?) and that is why he gets so reluctant to actually BD? No clue how you get him out of that hole though!

Frazzlerock · 25/02/2019 15:37

I also find it a turn on. But if I told hi that he'd think that any sex after we make a baby won't be any good.

He says I pressure him. When in actual fact I've said nothing until today about babymaking in fear of him feeling pressurised. So I think he's pressurising himself and projecting it onto me.

I've left work. Can't cope. Going home so he can tell me some more how shit I am

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Kinsters · 25/02/2019 15:02

Frazzle I don't think you saying in the heat of the moment that you'll stop TTC is a viable solution. You and your DP both know it'll make you seriously unhappy.

Is there any way you can get to the bottom of what he has against baby making sex and TTC "stuff" like OPKs and temperature charting? As Rose I think it was said, if he could just be relied on to BD at the right time that might take at least some of your stress away.

Maybe I'm weird but I find baby making sex kind of a turn on. Would your DP follow your lead if you went down that route or would it just put him off?

tigsyboo · 25/02/2019 14:33

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6739479/EastEnders-star-Lacey-Turner-announces-shes-pregnant.html

Fair play to her speaking out about 2 miscarriages before a successful pregnancy. 👏🏼

Frazzlerock · 25/02/2019 14:29

Sorry @Twittle I keep highjacking when you're going through this worry 😢

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Frazzlerock · 25/02/2019 13:58

Well I don't know what to think now. He is of course, skewing everything I say. At least by text I can see that is what he is doing. When this happens face to face I end up questioning myself. He has now stopped texting back. This all started with me sending him a good morning message and asking how he was today.
I'm so tired of this battle with him. I just want it to stop now I have nothing left of me. Every time he is down he makes me feel like shit and I have to either fight back and make things worse, or just take it all. If it wasn't for getting pregnant with Emily then none of this would be happening. I wouldn't be thinking of babies. I just wish I could get rid of this feeling. I gave myself up to him by saying we should stop TTC if it is making him ill and I will take it.
His response: "your way of caring for me right now is to say "right fine, we can look at ways of managing your illness, but it will then be on you that I will get ill" Unbelievable.."

I don't think I can ever make him happy, even by offering myself up to a lifetime of heartache so that he can feel better. That is the biggest sacrifice I can give him but it wasn't enough.

I'm exhausted. I want to go home and cry so much. I've cried for three fucking years and I feel like I could carry on crying forever. I honestly don't think it will ever stop.

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TwittleBee · 25/02/2019 13:51

That is true though! I'll see if I can get hold of anyone after work! x

Rose68 · 25/02/2019 13:48

Maybe you wouldn’t need a scan if the mw could find the heartbeat on a Doppler x

TwittleBee · 25/02/2019 13:35

Tbh no I havent spoke to anther MW - last time I had bleeding though not even my MW could get me an app earlier than 5 days with the EPU! And even then I never was offered a scan! I was told to come back on another day for the scan!

Rose68 · 25/02/2019 13:18

@Twittlebee have you spoken to a midwife? I know yours is on holiday, but there must be others covering. They should be able to get baby’s heart on a Doppler by now, or you could try to get hold of a Doppler and try yourself? I used one with DS2, and I do understand you have to be careful with them, but bloody hell did it help put my mind at rest on a few occasions! I used it from about 10 weeks until when I could feel him kick, which was very early (about 14 weeks I think).

@Frazzle has DP actually pulled the plug or have you just suggested it? FX he won’t listen to you. Sometimes I wish I wasn’t doing this ttc lark, it would be so lovely to get back to a normal life and not feel so bloody depressed all the time. A switch to switch off broodiness sounds fab, how do I get me one of those?

@Kinsters maybe thrush has messed up your cm? If the test line is the first line on the left, I don’t think it looks darker than the control line, but the control line does look dark. It does look like you might be close though.

TwittleBee · 25/02/2019 13:01

It really isn't Kin unfortunately, money is seriously tight as DH is unable to do any Extra Shifts currently and we just had the whole car issue to sort out plus we are trying to do our house up.

In some good news though, my mum and step dad announced their engagement to us last night! So that is pretty sweet.

Kinsters · 25/02/2019 12:54

That sucks Twittle. Is paying for a private scan an option?

TwittleBee · 25/02/2019 12:41

keep trying to type and then a colleague comes over! right...

Frazzle - firstly, those bloomin eye worms, i thought i was gonna go blind when I first got them when I was in my teens (optician laughed at me and told me its stress) but they arent unbearable imo, kind of used to when they appear now (I actually hallucinate spiders when I get too stressed and that is something that is real horrid). I am so so so sorry you think you have dug your own grave! It is so fricking frustrating! Why cant your DP just agree that you guys will DTD on the days required, and yes okay those will be about BM but all the other times you have sex can be those romantic ones where he isnt "just a sperm donor" to use his words?

Kin Oh not too sure! Do another one when you can, tbh you could just do another one in a couple hours and see if it gets darker then you'll know? Try and see it after 10 minutes though rather than waiting 30 minutes if you can! I find IC OPKs so confusing sometimes for how they seem to get darker outside of the window.

Yup - as suspected. The next available spot they have isn't until Monday unless its an emergency and apparently I am not bleeding enough to be seen on their emergency scans on Friday. I cant see them on their walk in clinics as I havent been referred by my MW (who is away) and havent had enough MCs (only had 2 on their records as I didnt know CPs counted FFS) to self refer for them. So I have been told to wait till my dating scan on Monday as they cant do anything anyway.

Kinsters · 25/02/2019 12:39

Oh Frazzle I don't know what to say. It's just an impossible situation. Do you think it would help for your DP to go and see his GP and look into getting therapy or maybe medication? Really the solution to both your sadnesses is for you to be pregnant and happy so I guess medication and therapy won't really help the root cause Sad

I wish we had a switch to turn broodyness on and off. Scratch that, a switch to get pregnant...

Frazzlerock · 25/02/2019 11:48

I think I have just dug my own grave.

DP: Like I said last night, yes I am doing everything to make yours come true. I think I am realising, to the detriment of my own health/happiness/mental state. xx

I told DP that if the sole reason for him being ill is due to the babymaking then he should pull the plug and I should be the ill one again as I can't be responsible for making him ill.

Great, I guess this is it then Sad
I've got to try and accept that I will now be unhappy for the rest of my life.

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Kinsters · 25/02/2019 11:42

It sounds like loads of us are having a really shit time at the moment. Hugs to you all. TTC and miscarriages and just life can be so shit and unfair sometimes.

Do you think this OPK is positive? It didn't look positive when I first did it so I left it for thirty minutes now it looks like this! I'll do another one tomorrow morning. Idk why my body is doing this. My vag is dry as a bone but apparently LH is rising! Whyyy?

I added my chart too. Thought maybe I ovulated CD16 but perhaps it'll be tomorrow (CD19) instead.

The July 19ers - All aboard the rollercoaster for a 3rd lucky thread
The July 19ers - All aboard the rollercoaster for a 3rd lucky thread
Rose68 · 25/02/2019 10:22

@Indreamland 8/9 dpo is way too early to test! There is still time. x

Thank you for the supportive comments, we currently aren’t speaking to each other and I guess that will continue for ages. @Frazzlerock my DH is also constantly having a go at our boys, but I do undermine him and he gets really pissed off about that. I know it’s bad to undermine but he snaps at just about anything and everything, and I am trying to protect them.

@Frazzle you don’t need to apologise, we all get it, tbh I could have written your post, except for the bit about DP’s health problems. I am so sorry and I pray that it’s not something like a brain tumour! I don’t want to say ‘hopefully it’s just stress’ because obviously stress isn’t great either, but at least it’s not a brain tumour, if you get what I mean.

And it looks like I’m joining the thrush club 😩

Frazzlerock · 25/02/2019 09:08

Hi all,

Not really sure where to start. But I wanted to send lots of thoughts and love to @Pegase and @Twittle.

I have lots to catch up on. @Kinsters, as @Tigsy says, I haven't ever experienced language problems but I would hate to be in your position.
@indreamland How could I ever think things would actually work out for me. All my positivity is zapped. - I feel you. This is soul destroying.

As for me, I'm still an utter misery.
DP is depressed about work, his health, and my desperation for a baby. I consistently feel like all this is my fault. He keeps on having a go at the boys and I can't say anything as it will be undermining him, but my protective mode is kicking in so much it hurts. He says it is because he cares about them.
As soon as it goes quiet regarding finding work his mood plummets. His health has been bad for a long time. He has had labyrinthitis symptoms since around September 2015, has terrible opngoing tinnitus, and now he has 'worms' in his vision again which, he's been told before, is stress and lots of men his age have it. But it is back. The ENT couldn't find anything wrong re lab symptoms so has booked him in for an MRI scan. So now he thinks he has a brain tumour. His dad has had a slow growing one for years so he thinks he now has the same. This then has a knock on effect for his work as he is going to go contracting for the first time hopefully soon, but can't do that if his health is fucked.

Meanwhile I'm dying inside because I'm still not any closer to having a baby with him. And this is just going to delay things further. Then I feel selfish because obviously his health is more important.
Last night I told him I just want him to be happy, then he said "I just want you to be happy, but it's killing me"

So there we have it. If it weren't for my desperation for a baby everything would be fine.
I am currently hating myself and wish more than anything in the world that this crippling desire would fuck off forever.

Sorry, I know some of you have real worries about your babies so this feels completely insignificant in comparison.

Happy Monday all Sad

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