The July 19ers - STILL never beaten, and rocking our FJs for a lucky thread

That sounds awful @ratherbeshowjumping

Someone I know got pregnant while on depo injection and then had a very traumatic mc requiring emergency hospitalisation. Horrific.

So I have maxed out the fertility monitor. Over 10 days of high and no peak (LH surge). Am pretty sure am having a normal cycle however so have ordered some one step opks to use for future. Do people do these morning or evening?

Yes, I can't even imagine. If you can't trust your contraception what can you trust.

@Kinsters it was awful. It was the mirena coil.

Oh wow ratherbe that's crazy. And coils are supposed to be really reliable. Was it the copper one or the mirena?

Thank you @Rose68 & @Kinsters 😂 should have mentioned that LH was the horse!

Haven't really mentioned the mc 18 months... Jesus actually closer to 2 years ago... much as the Dr has encouraged me not to think of it as a "pregnancy." I fell pregnant on the coil, thought I had a sickness bug, did a test to rule it out & found out I was 6 weeks. They told me that the baby wouldn't survive if I opted to keep the coil in & if I chose to take the coil out, it was a 75% chance I would miscarry. So I chose to take it out & started bleeding the next day. It was gutting but much easier to process than this one, if you see what I mean?

Sorry that sounded insensitive - had DD over my shoulders so cut off early. I mean maybe for you and DH spend some time doing something fun together that eases the TTC pressure on your relationship.

@Ratherbe I’m so sorry to hear of your mc 18 months ago, I had thought this mc was your first one. Wow, it sounds really promising for you this month though. I am keeping everything crossed for you! And well done on 2nd place too! xxx

ratherbe congrats on coming second! And fingers crossed for you being pregnant! I had to reread that sentence sooo many times before remembering Lewis Hamilton is your horse!!

The dry slope was fine, I've done it quite a lot with snowboarding so skiing has similar challenges. Plus I'm not doing anything too difficult yet, just snow plough turns with increasing speed to get my confidence up.

Oh DPO sisters, I really thought one of us would have some luck! I am feeling slightly headachy this morning, which for me is a sign that AF is on her way.

@Buggles1 have you been looking into any kind of fertility treatment? It sounds like you have been trying for a while? Sorry, I can’t remember if your last pregnancy was conceived naturally? 39 / 40 is also unlikely to be too late, but I do completely understand how you feel. Sending you much love xxx

That's really unclear sorry - meant to say getting exhausted after a competition is unusual for me, not getting placed!!

Happy birthday @edidxb I hope you have a wonderful day 🎉 your Dh sounds lovely! Sorry that you have to work today - are you doing anything nice this evening?
You're certainly not too late!

Sending lots of love @TwittleBee I'm so sorry. Your DH is being a massive twat too, that's a grossly unfair thing to say. As others have said, I'm sure it's just time he needs, as frustrating as it sounds. He may also be terrified. After our first mc 18 months ago, DH & I literally didn't have sex for 5-6 months as he was terrified I'd get pg & lose it again and I did.
You're clearly very fertile, you've got a lovely DS. I promise you he will come round xx

@Kinsters hope you had a lovely time! They are so unforgiving - did you get on ok?

Oh @Frazzlerock I'm sorry you're having a shit time as well. I'm sorry AF is on her way as well but to rabbit that god awful "hun" line, you aren't out 'til you're out. I remember the cycle I fell pg, I honestly thought that I was gearing up for the most hellish AF possible. And the pink wipe could be an implantation bleed, you just don't know. Keep positive 🤞🏼🤞🏼

I'm feeling really rough today. TMI but am really, really constipated, awful headaches, dry mouth, loads of saliva & feeling really nauseous unless I eat. Lewis Hamilton went to a competition yesterday & it absolutely exhausted me (we did come 2nd though 😬) -- really uncommon for me. My nipples are the size of dinner plates & areolas are massive. It matches up perfectly to the symptoms from Ovia. I'm hoping & praying it's not my body playing any tricks as that would really be horrendous. I can't deal with 2ww like this every month if I'm not pg.

Oh and here's my chart
It's still high so I thought it means I have O'd....

But it's telling me to do a Coverline 0.5° higher than the highest reading over 6 days before rise.... does it mean 0.05°?? If it's half a whole degree then these high temps would still be below that line???

Or is this not an Ov rise??

@edidxb happy birthday!!
I'm in the other camp of those without kids who also completely understands!! I'm 36 in April and have no kids. I only met my DH when I was 32 and he was still married (but separated!!) and I would have been ok with starting trying much earlier.... bu he had this hang up about needing to be divorced first and neither of them would accept blame (even though she was a crazy bitch).... so cue a 2 year wait for the divorce! It didn't seem like a big deal at the time but now I'm like 'omg all that wasted time!!'

@TwittleBee I'm so sorry. I honestly think if your DH is anything like mine you need to shelve the TTC chat for at least a month. Let him come round to that way of thinking again himself without it being forced upon him. I'm sorry that isn't going to be what you want to hear, and I don't agree with him, but I think if he's anything like my DH keep pushing makes him more stubborn and it's a harder road back from xx

Men are a nightmare Twittle... as the others have said, give him some time. It’s like dealing with a problem at work, sometimes you have to take a deep breath, walk away and come back to it fresh the following day. I’ve also found the less I tell my other half about all things fertility wise the better we get on. He finds it overwhelming otherwise. If only they could understand how totally overwhelming for us ay.

edidxb... I forgot to say, you are only just 37 so you do have loads of time to get this fathomed given how much you already know from this group and the like... good luck!

So sorry @TwittleBee. You and your DH have had a hard time recently. Just give it some time and think of some fun things to do to take your mind off it maybe?

@edidxb Happy birthday!

Oh no Twittle that's shit. So sorry to hear your DH said that.

Happy birthday edidxb. Know where you’re coming from. I also don’t have kids. I never imagined I’d end up not having my own children and, after two mc in a row also, it’s starting to feel like a realisation I may painfully have to get used to. It breaks my heart. It’s like being in mourning for something you’ve lost but never had in the first place.
I went to the doc for help when I was 38 (my husband and I had only been married a few months but i’d been off the pill for a while before this) but was told “you’re still young, go away and keep trying”.... absolutely no help at all really, hence I’m now almost 40 and still trying. If there is any advice I’d like to have had back then, it’s that 38 is sadly getting on and I should have pushed (either nhs or private) for more help then. I may have lost my chance of a family cause of that one (unsympathetic bitch, sorry) of a doctor and my own naivety.

Sorry its not looking better Twittle. It's so unfair. You should definitely think about going skiing!

Happy birthday edidxb!

I've started getting a bit of spotting which is how my period always starts, just waiting for it to come on properly now. Massage was amazing - 1.5 hour foot massage with reflexology, so relaxing!

Sorry Twittle, our messages crossed. I think DH just needs some time, I am sure he wants more than one child. I’m so sorry, I wish I could do something more than just send a message on here. xxxx

Oh Twittle, I’m so sorry. I really thought this was it for you. How is DH about it all now? Sending much love

@edidxb HAPPY BIRTHDAY! And please don’t worry, I for one totally understood your comment re having children already. I am sure you will get your baby very soon. How long has it taken to conceive in the past? Do they know the reasons for your mcs? 37 really isn’t too late. xxx

DH doesn't want to try again he says if this one really does end then it's a sign we should stop as he isn't wanting another one anyway. Just want to hide and cry

Ah @TwittleBee how disappointing for you, I'm really sorry. Hormones are so messy after mc it's really unfair. It looks as though your body is still geared up for pregnancy tho, so here's hoping it'll happen quickly for you again. A big hug xx

Don't be silly edidxb it made sense what you meant

Well I'm out as much as there is still 2 lines there I know that's fainter than the internet cheapie I done a couple days ago.

Also I didn't meant to say that some people have children already..... that came out all wrong. It doesn't matter either way. Just that today I feel pretty low.
Ah well.
Hope you are ok @twittlebee still keeping my fingers crossed.