The July 19ers - STILL never beaten, and rocking our FJs for a lucky thread

Totally missed your post Pegase ! Happy Birthday!

Oh bloomin hate thrush Kin ! Hope it clears up soon

That certainly sounds promising though doesn't it tigsyboo feeling that wet? Thats certainly a symptom for me. Really FX that you'll see a BFP soon.

My PG is okay. Obviously super thrilled to be PG again but had spotting this morning. Been passing out too from feel so dizzy. Cramping pretty bad. Also lost 3lbs so far as can't eat, lost my appetite. Feel like it's all gonna go wrong any minute now.

Oh bless them missing that 2nd goal Rose68 but does sound like you all had a good day otherwise

Oh yes @Kinsters I take probiotic capsules from Holland and Barrett if I feel thrush might be coming on and it often keeps it at bay. They need to be kept in the fridge.

@edidxb I’m so sorry about your argument, is it Feb half term that you were planning to go away for? I’m assuming there isn’t much you can do to change it? Hopefully DH will have calmed down a bit later and you can get some bd in.

@Frazzle it’s good to hear you are having a fab time in Berlin. I also think it would be strange to ovulate so early, although having been on the over 40’s thread, I know it’s not impossible.

@Pegase Happy birthday! 35 is fine, don’t worry x

@Kinsters sorry to hear about the thrush, I kept getting thrush every month last year between ov and AF, I now have at least one actimel every day and I haven’t had it since. Fingers crossed it goes quickly for you.

@Tigsy you are very strong not testing, I don’t think I could hold out and I do think it could sound promising! Thank you so much for the pregnacare, it arrived yesterday 😘

We had a lovely day out yesterday at Old Trafford, we got an 8:30am train and didn’t get home until gone 10pm, so it was a long and tiring day, but worth it. Neither of our boys saw the second goal, we were sat behind the goal, but everyone stands up so they couldn’t see. DS2 was so upset that he missed it, it was heartbreaking. They both saw the first goal, it was a penalty, so there was time to get them standing on their seats.

No I’ve decided after how upset the monitor made me seeing the bfn in flashing lights I’m just waiting for AF. My cycle is all over the place - Ov CD18 (I think!) and had 26day cycle last month.... I’m CD28 today and I’ll wait till CD32 if no sign of the witch then I’ll test but I know I’m out this month, it’s just been too unstable x

@Kinsters what a PIA, hope it clears up soon!

Ahhhh @tigsyboo that's exactly what I had when I got a BFP 🤞🏼😬
10dpo may show up on a FRER. Have you got one?
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@edidxb I'm with @ratherbeshowjumping bullshit apologies are the way forward!! Outwardly apologetic, inwardly ffuming!! Ha!!

Happy birthday @Pegase!!!

No idea re the CM. I swear I don't have any!!
Although I'm10 dpo now so I'm breathing a little sigh of relief as LP not ridiculously short but yesterday kept feeling 'wet' and kept going to loo thinking that witch Af was here but it was just clear..... pulled knickers back up and felt wet and cold so obvs secreting something (tmi!) odd!!

How's the PG @TwittleBee?? You can talk about it, we are all happy for u xxx

Happy birthday Pegase! Even if it sucks to be a year older...

I think I've got thrush 😭 going to get some canesten and hope it's gone by ovulation next weekend. And hope o is not early because dtd atm is out of the question!

Glad you're having fun in Berlin Frazzle!

Happy birthday @Pegase 🎉🦄
Are you doing anything nice today?

I'm not sure how much help this is but since the mc I've had "stringy" type cm mixed with blood when I wipe. Similar to EWCM but not quite. Haven't read into it as all of my AF symptoms are completely new since the mc.
I'm definitely not a temping pro either. Sorry @Frazzlerock
I'm glad you've had a really lovely time though. You've definitely deserved it 🇩🇪

Fx'd you haven't ov'd yet @edidxb - my dh responds better to texts too. Would it be worth just eating humble pie and over-apologising for muddling the dates up & just smoothing things over so you can dtd?

Frazzlerock temps are often really rocky during AF so that might be why? Also, it isn't uheard of people Oving straight after AF (basing on other MNers experiences I've run into over the years) but i think it is unlikely. I would consider you haven't OVd (I get similar EW mixed with blood at end of AF).

Glad you're having a great time away btw!

I know cervix has to be high and open during ovulation but I'm not sure of the cycle of movement throughout the cycle? Around ovulation time I can't really reach mine. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable is awake!

In other news, I am 35 today

Not a good milestone when you have just had a mc!

That is really so shit edidxb . Hopefully temp doesn't rise until after a night of DTD. Does your DH respond well to texts? My DH actually seems to finally understand my side of what's happening if I write it down via text. I think it's because we are both so emotional face to face. Also I think it's easier for him to them admit he was wrong via text too

That's a nightmare @edidxb

How on board is he with the TTC generally? Aside from the mansulking I mean

He went to bed saying good night, but no kiss. Not sure when this will end. Fell so frustrated as it's another month gone. 2nd month past mc, first month of acupuncture so all the signs are good.

My temp hasn't gone up this morning, so still chance I haven't ovulated yet so there is still a chance tonight but I would be very surprised if anything were to happen.

Work today too, so not like we can chat anything through during the day either!

I was hoping my temp would have have gone up this morning as we DTD on Thursday night and that would still have given me a chance but obviously not meant to be.

arrrrggghhhhhh!!!

@edidxb that's really shit, I'm so sorry.
How's things now?

Oh @edidxb
That really sucks. Is there no way of changing the visit or the planned leave?
I understand having a DH who sulks though.
Mine goes in a mood for days and it's annoying me at the moment that I have to try and prematurely end arguments to have sex that normally I'd not want after he is an arse!
He may just need time to calm down.
FX for you x

we just had a massive fight - in fact, I didn't but DH just went mental about something non TTC related. We are meant to be going away in Feb and I hadn't realised my parents are coming for 3 days and it eats into the time we were meant to be away. We haven't booked anything, but he has stormed off and hasn't said a word to me.
So even though he felt ill, we definitely won't be DTD tonight and knowing my husband probably not tomorrow night either as he will still be angry then. So there goes this month. I just feel a bit numb to it right now - I haven't got the energy to be upset.

Ah have a lovely time @Rose68 - hope your boys enjoy it!

Oh no @edidxb hopefully he starts feeling better by this evening 🙈

I feel really needy too @tigsyboo. At my godmothers house being spoilt rotten but can't help thinking how i talked to her back in early November & she was saying how excited she would be to see my little bump etc 😢

tigsyboo It's the overall pattern, the overall rise and fall that you need to look at when temping. You shouldn't worry about different individual temps as such. If there's still a clear rise then that's what matters.

Sorry AF has arrived Rather hope you have a good weekend away despite it.

Oh that's rubbish edidxb I hope he feels up to it tonight. If not, maybe tomorrow wouldn't be too late?

Have fun! Rose68

It’s an oral bbt.... and I put them both in my mouth at the same time but they never give the same temps.... I’ve tried doing them both again and they keep to their own temps, so god knows which one is wrong!!
Sorry ladies
I feel really needy recentky :(

I think AF is on the way as feel cranky and bloated and that is worrying me about my luteral phase being short.

I dunno what to believe about fertility after MC.... doesn’t seem to be the case for most here

@tigsyboo how does the lady comp work? Does it take the temp vaginally and the BBT orally?
I would be more inclined towards the BBT but only as I know how to do it and the chart looks like one I recognise. The other chart still has highs in the right place so looking at it carefully it does look right but just more in general if that makes sense?

I am CD15 today and got my smiley face. DH is not feeling well today. He says he didn't sleep well last night and he has an upset stomach......I haven't told him it's smiley face day yet today but am sure it's not going to go down well. Argghh, I feel stressed already about it!
@rose68 have fun at the football!
@ratherbe have fun in Dublin!

Morning ladies, we are off to see Man U today with 2 very excited boys!
I’m sorry I can’t offer any help on the charting, I’ve never done it. On the positive opk, I get ovulation pains the same day as the smiley face, ov pains last a good few hours, maybe as much as 12, so I think I ov within 24 hours of seeing that smiley face.
Sorry to hear AF arrived @Ratherbe 😞

Morning ladies,

Sorry I've been a bit quiet, works been hectic & we flew to Dublin yesterday afternoon for the weekend...

Sorry to see your bfn @tigsyboo - you've definitely got a chance though, you're still very early to be getting a BFP! Fx'd. Don't worry about crying - it's the most natural reaction to a bfn in our positions... xx

@Rose68 hope your tax return goes ok. Such a pain to do... dh & I were discussing being more fertile after a mc too... i personally think it's rubbish. Think how much your body goes through to create & subsequently lose a life, not to mention the medical management that most have had... it must take a while to get back to "prime." Sorry to hear DH is unlikely to be there, that's really shit xxx

@Kinsters I've read that too! Reading up more on the "turkey blaster baster" method, they encourage you to orgasm. I think the cervix contracting helps propel the sperm forward & they don't have to work as hard to reach the egg.

Looks positive to me too @edidxb - personally I think I ovulate 12hrs after my smiley. Have fun 😜

AF turned up just after my rant on Thursday night, which probably is a good thing as not waiting around for it.