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The July '19ers - knocked down, but never beaten

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Frazzlerock · 03/12/2018 09:41

Hey @TinselBee, @Rose68, @BettySwoll0cks

Here is the thread I promised us.

Somewhere for us to help eachother, pick one another up, cry, scream, laugh..

Some of us may be looking to try again, some may be putting things on hold. Whatever our plans, lets get through this together.

(I don't know whether conception was the right choice of topic, I can always have this moved to a more suitable topic if anyone would like me to)

I will look through our threads again and see if I can @mention anyone else who might like to join us

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BettySwoll0cks · 05/01/2019 08:42

@Rachyrach83 that's great you have a GP who is responsive. We often have locum GPS at my practice so I often end up repeating the story over and over which gets upsetting, and they all seem to have a different opinion about it. Plus I never really know what I'm asking for Confused. Next time I will ask for hcg testing though (never been offered that before) and in the meantime I'll push for a referral to the fertility clinic. She who shouts loudest, etc....

BettySwoll0cks · 05/01/2019 08:36

Morning everyone. @TwittleBee really gutted to hear about your bfn this morning. As they say, it's not over til AF shows up though so will keep fx for you in the meantime. Hope you feel better soon Thanks

@Frazzle what a nightmare day yesterday! Some days, the hits just keep coming don't they. And on top of it all you're walking on eggshells with your DP Sad how does he feel generally about having another baby? Is he keen when you talk about it outside of the bedroom? My DH sometimes feels like he's being used as a bit of a stud too tbh, but he has been more sympathetic since the mc's because he can really see how much it means to me.

I'd like to start charting BBT again next cycle but I'm not sure it will work because I always get woken up multiple times a night by DH and DS. I laugh in the face of 4 hours unbroken sleep!! So what to do? I'm kicking myself I got a bellabeat health tracker last year, if I'd really thought about it I should have bought an ava instead 😠

Kinsters · 05/01/2019 08:11

Your charts looking great btw frazzle!

Kinsters · 05/01/2019 08:09

You're not being melodramatic Frazzle it sounds like you've got loads to stress about atm. Does your DP know that you've ovulated already? I think he's being very unreasonable with his attitude - of course you want to know what's going on with your body! Just because sex is baby making sex doesn't mean that's the only reason you want to do it anyway.

princessbala welcome but sorry you're here as well.

Went out and bought some opks - totally negative. So frustrating! I wish I'd started temping straight away!

Frazzlerock · 05/01/2019 07:22

I remember your name @princessbala I'm so sorry you lost your little one as well. Of course you can join this group, you're very welcome x

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princessbala · 05/01/2019 07:10

Hi, I was speaking to you @Frazzlerock a while ago, we had almost the same dates but I found out I had a mmc just before you did, I was wondering if I could join this thread? I'm really struggling xx

Frazzlerock · 05/01/2019 07:06

In positive news I have another high temp 🙌

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Frazzlerock · 05/01/2019 07:02

@TwittleBee I think you're still in with a big chance though? Do you think it's just too early if you are less DPO than you originally thought. Though I've no idea about the positive tests you did 
How is your temp this morning?

Sorry you're not feeling well. That really sucks on top of everything.

@Kinsters I don't know about your chart. It's so hard to tell without more temps. I saw that article on FB but it was a screenshot of the headline (helpful...) and I never actually googled it to find the article so thank you, I will have a read of it.

@edidxb you could still be gearing up for ov. If FF is to be believed, I ov'd on CD32. Or CD34 if I go with Ovu so it can take time.

I have put a spanner in the works with DP 😓 Last night we were in bed and I was performing my usual 'let's get on it' hints.id also loaded up the pre-seed just in case I am still in ovulation window.
He said "no sexy things tonight as I've not showered after runnng"
I was fine. But I opened up my ovu app to check if TTC wise we'd be okay with it being two days in a row of no BD. But DP saw it and said "oh you're in The Zone are you...". Then got upset that this is too much pressure and this is how his friend and his wife split up etc...
and now I feel shit because as much as I desperately want another baby our sex life is about us first and babies second. I genuinely have a high sex drive and would do it all day everyday with him if I could!
But he thinks it is just about baby making. In the past he's told me I treat him like a sperm donor and I have been so scared that he'd feel the same this time.
This one blip could make him pull the plug on this and I've been so careful not to put pressure on him. But I looked at that stupid app which was bad timing, and now this has happened.

He gets depressed very very easily and experience has taught me that this could very easily push him away for a good few days, sometimes weeks.

I've been awake since 5am laying there worrying about it. I'm also really weepy and desperate to burst into tears but that will push him away further so I've been trying not to cry.

Reading back it seems so melodramatic but I genuinely thrive being close and intimate with him and I'm not very good at dealing with him pushing me away.

On top of that we had a day of First World Problems. First we had a water outage, then we had gas engineers at the door explaining about a gas leak outside our house, so we had no gas all day until about 8pm (it was freezing!) Then, when they finally turned our gas on and left, our bloody internet cut off! We are convinced they cut something while digging around under the pavement but we can't work out where it happened (there's still a gaping hole in pavement so can see pipes and wires.
So we have to do the Sky, BT, Gas company dance today 😓

And I stupidly thought, while lying there in bed this morning, that I'd come downstairs and watch the third series of Delicious on catch up but can't because no sodding Internet!!! 😡

MOAN
MOAN
MOAN

I have more gripes from yesterday but I don't want to push you lot away as well as DP! 😂

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edidxb · 05/01/2019 05:30

Oh that's rubbish @Twittlebee I'm sorry it's negative. I was really rooting for you.

I'm still not sleeping well but hoping work next next week and being back in a proper routing will help me.

I'm on CD30 here and not pregnant and don't think I have ovulated either. Negative OPK again this morning, but still got ewcm so hopefully in the next few days and then at least I can get a period and move on!

Kinsters · 05/01/2019 04:38

Oh that sounds rubbish. Has your DS been ill as well?

I think it's just jetlag for me tbh. I take sleeping pills for three nights after we get back and then they stop working so the few days after that are always tough.

TwittleBee · 05/01/2019 04:33

Yeah in a lot of pain, not sure what's up. Think it might be hand, foot and mouth but it feels like it's affecting my whole body

What's up with not sleeping well? Any idea?

Kinsters · 05/01/2019 03:38

That sucks Twittle. Yeah, I think our cycles are understandably a bit out of whack. Hopefully they'll get back to normal in the next month or so.

You're up very early. Not able to sleep? I slept really badly last night even though our cats finally stopped miaowing outside the door (I think she missed us whilst we were away for Christmas!)

TwittleBee · 05/01/2019 03:17

Kin that's what it looked like my body tried to do around that time too, wonder if it's where it tries to do the usual cycle but realises it's not ready?

Anyway.... BFuckingN... shouldn't be surprised. FF is glowing "told you so"

Guessing everything is just weird pre 1st AF stuff.

Kinsters · 05/01/2019 01:13

I occasionally sext. I always make it quite direct though. Men generally aren't subtle! Bending over naked always gets my DH going as well.

Ergh my chart. I feel like my body tried to ovulate on CD17 but didn't manage it. I wish I'd taken more temps earlier on cause it sort of looks like my temp has risen but only because it was abnormally low on CD16. If I compare to previous charts my temps are still in the solidly pre-o range.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/jan/04/more-male-tests-needed-in-cases-of-repeated-miscarriages-uk-study

Did you guys see this article about the role sperm plays in miscarriage? Quite interesting although it doesn't say what can be done to remedy dna damage in sperm.

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Rachyrach83 · 04/01/2019 21:13

@betty I’ve probably made it sound easier than it normally would be... as a brief (not very brief!) precis - (as a pre warning.... I hate myself for how blasé I sound about getting pregnant so don’t judge me!!) I was under the GP as I’d been quite poorly with depression and severe anxiety and was medicated pre-falling pregnant. When I got my bfp, id been off the pill since our Wedding in April but my mental health deteriorated (just to my shit shit shit employer!) in July and I got my meds and we didnt DTD again until early September, and we just carried on as ‘normal’ (unprotected sex). When I got my Bfp in Oct I actually was in Sainsbury’s loos because I was standing waiting for my second prescription, my phone battery had died and so I was reading my meds info leaflet to pass the time... I got to the bit that said ‘not recommended in pregnancy’.... I had a sudden realisation that maybe my period was late!! I could only work it out by knowing I was on during my last nail appointment so a quick scramble in my bag for my diary and there is was.... I was 4-6 days late! Now I initially put it down to my periods being out due to stress, but there right by me was a £3.50 hpt... I thought, better rule this out then (genuinely thought it would be negative!) .... and lone behold there it was... a glaring blue cross!!! (First thing I did.... put the pate and wine back on the shelf from my basket!!! 😂😂 )
Hence why I know NOTHING really about my cycles pre pregnancy, I didn’t really know when my period was!!
anyway, I told the pharmacist, who called my gp and they took me straight off my medication... and I went to see her the next day... and pretty much from that point on have given me what I’ve asked for in terms of referrals and tests because a) they didnt really know what the affects of the meds would be and b) I was slightly crazy and Not medicated and it kept my anxiety levels down - obviously until it all started to go tits up at 7+5!
Anyway.... in answer to your question it’s my GP... and I’ve found it’s very much about asking and reasoning that it’s causing you greater stress not knowing and telling them you know about levels etc. If they kniw you want tests because you are educated in what the results mean I think you are more likely to get it because they know it’s easier to give you the test than not and you correctly interpret the results.
Phew!! Sorry bout that... didn’t mean it to be that long!!!

Frazzlerock · 04/01/2019 21:08

Looks like we are @Rachyrach83 😂

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ratherbeshowjumping · 04/01/2019 20:54

Just a quick update as DH has run upstairs...
He genuinely thought I was taking the piss 😫🙈 how mortifying, I definitely wasn't 😩😂 Frazzle & Rachy I need some more lessons please for next month... ffs 🤦🏽‍♀️

smerlin · 04/01/2019 20:52

Haha first day back at work so just catching up on the hilarity of the sexting!

I am on high fertility on CBFM (high oestrogen but no LH surge yet) but thought best leap on DH anyway. 2 mins after getting dressed, the Tesco delivery man turns up 20 minutes early 

@TwittleBee have everything crossed for you- so hope we have our first pregnancy on the board! Am almost positive full mucus plug does not develop until end of 1st trimester (obv increasing until then)

BettySwoll0cks · 04/01/2019 20:44

@Rachyrach83 who do you go to directly to ask for tests, CD21 levels etc? Do you call your GP or are you under private care? I don't feel like I am really having a dialogue with any health provider about fertility stuff, currently 🤔

Rachyrach83 · 04/01/2019 20:34

@Frazzlerock it looks like you and I are the filthbags here 😂

BettySwoll0cks · 04/01/2019 20:20

This is brilliant 😂 if I followed Frazzles advice I reckon my DH would call the community psychiatric team 😂

TwittleBee · 04/01/2019 17:32

Oh sorry everyone to keep you in suspense! I'll be waiting till FMU to take the test. So don't want to waste one!

Frazzle bloody neck that is spooky! Maybe we have synched up? 😂 makes me think even more that I am only 5dpo though!

TWW is always full of trickster symptoms.

Rather haha brilliant! Good luck with it tonight! FX. Certainly send a follow up message

edidxb · 04/01/2019 17:31

This is brilliant! I have also never "sexted" but now I am thinking that I am very boring! Good on you @ratherbe I do hope the outcome is successful.

Rose68 · 04/01/2019 17:29

I am laughing so much reading these messages 😂😂😂

Frazzlerock · 04/01/2019 17:10

That's not a bad response! But I agree with Rachy for follow up message

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