The July '19ers - knocked down, but never beaten

Morning Ladies

I think I am slightly calmer today, no manic rushing around this morning and we are off to see a pantomime this afternoon. My boys are at private school, hence the early finish, but I quite like the holidays, I think it gives me a sense of purpose again. I think I need to find myself a job, my acupuncturist was trying to talk me into working for myself, which I could definitely do, but it’s just where to start, and confidence.

@Ratherbe I’m so sorry to hear about your dog, it must be so hard especially on top of what’s already happened.

@Tinsel wow re the car accident, do they really think it could have caused your mc? I guess the money would be really handy, but of course it will never replace what you have lost. I had brown blood after mine too, I think it’s normal for it to stop and start a bit.

@Frazzle I found out about the supplements through much research on tinterweb and also from being on the over 40 ttc thread. I mostly follow the instructions on the packets. I am a bit concerned about taking too much folic acid though cause I have also just got cassanovum which has folic acid in it, so that’s 3 x 400mgs I’m having a day 😳 I’m not sure if this is okay or not...
I don’t think you are being unreasonable re your work colleague, she must understand how you are feeling, and really it’s on her to approach you, I think it’s really bad she didn’t speak to you at all! I understand she feels awkward, but she should still make the effort.

@Rachyrach83 I have looked into melatonin before, but for some reason I was a bit scared of it, I might have another look. I got my dhea from biovea.

@Frazzle I did buy some low dose asprin tablets, but I haven’t started taking them yet. I did read that it can help blood flow to the ovaries and uterus, which is a good thing. But you say they shouldn’t be taken while ttc?

Sending everyone much love
xxx

Thank you Rose I see, I think I'll stick with the fertility lube as that worked for us last time round on the first time we used it and that's to help aid get sperm to the egg etc. We've still got half a tube left.

Very quick message from me cause I am short of time, but @Tinsel and @Ratherbe you shouldn’t need these supplements, for us oldies they are good because they are meant to improve egg quality. You guys shouldn’t have that problem yet. For you guys I would recommend pregnacare conception and primrose oil.
I believe primrose oil helps the sperm get to the egg, some recommend only taking it from CD1 until ovulation, but I have been taking it all cycle. xxx

Ratherbe feels odd doesn't it feeling jealous and grouchy but also being pleased and happy for them. Really have my FX that you are lucky this cycle and have a healthy lil baby next year

Strange isn't it Frazzle as I'm only CD8 if I'm to count the first day I started bleeding. I've attached my chart. FF reckons I'll be ovulating CD14 which means only a 26 day cycle. Pre MC my cycles were 26-29 days in length. I thought cycles tend to be longer post MC? I'm confused!

*pleased for her - that was meant to say!!

@Frazzle and @Rachy - completely with you. One of my best friends put a bump pic on FB last night and I think that definitely fuelled part of my hysterics.... it's pathetic as I'm so pleased.
I really want to vow that when I am luckily enough to have a big bump, I won't put anything on Facebook, as you just don't know what others are going through.

100% take what you can to improve what you can. I've been having a little look at what to take to reduce chance of mc but there doesn't seem to be much on there.

I'm on CD20 now, out of a usual 26 CD cycle. With my last pg, CD20 was the first day I had a feeling I may be pg... and today I've had the cramps on the right hand side, tingly boobs, headaches and a dry mouth. I'm trying so so hard not to ss or get overexcited or to imagine things that absolutely are not there but I can't help but sit here with my fingers, toes, eyes, everything crossed.

Yes everything I've read has been saying to speed up labour, probably why they don't want you taking it at 8 weeks!!
Perhaps it is different ttc, or even early days pg!

ratherbe maybe it's different whilst TTC? MWs told us to take primrose oil post 36 weeks to help with prep of dilation during our antenatal class... Then again... DS was born bang on 37 weeks...

I might have to look into this whole new world of pills just another thing to obsess over
I've had a bit of a google and everything I've read has said not to take primrose oil whilst pg?

Ratherbe that's how I feel too haha. I'd only been taking folic acid but then I tried Seven Seas Trying for a baby pills and fell pregnant with the one I just lost. Taking Pregnacare this time (mum bought them otherwise would have been the seven seas ones again)

Afternoon all, had a manic day. Nursery photos, allergy check ups for DS and then my legal team phoned me regarding that car incident I had. Interestingly, my legal team reckons we will be able to claim against the prick that pulled out on me regards to the miscarriage as the dates of stopped growth match up to the car crash. Really would rather a baby than all that money but I guess at least I'll be able to treat my DS to a nice holiday next year.

Also... been bleeding brown blood today?! Had no bleeding or spotting prior Sunday but now brown blood?

Frazzle and Rachy my chart looks similar to that too with the massive temp drop today.

What makes you ladies take these supplements btw? I was big on taking a lot during pregnancy with DS to help with stuff, e.g. primrose oil to help with dilation and rose essence to help my SPD

Think I may need to up my game.... I feel awful looking at these lists. The only thing I've been taking is folic acid!

@frazzlerock
You and I are so similar!!
I’ve extended my sick note as the woman who sits opposite me is going on maternity leave on Friday and I struggled to tolerate all the sighing and belly-rubbing before so now I think I’ll lose it!! Thank god I’ll have 9 months rid of her when I go back.

www.biovea.net/UK/mobile/results.aspx?ag=melatonin&ti=g-melatonin&c=n&gclid=Cj0KCQiAgMPgBRDDARIsAOh3uyIADLfnTyfwXVQx8KBBm_gAtDTioWQhdguACv4KXIQsF9LqURL-_R0aAtlGEALw_wcB
This is where I got it from
I brought the 3mg tablets

Just in Tesco getting some coq10 tablets.... would go for the dearer one mentioned but I’ve spent a fortune since my MMC and DH is getting a bit ratty as we conceived without any of it last time so thinks I’m wasting money

Oh yes they do look similar!! That’s reassuring!

In regards to supplements I have been told 3mg of melatonin is great for improving egg quality ... it’s also a great cure for insomnia! I’ve been taking it for 3 nights and slept like a hibernating hedgehog!!

Morning Ladies

@Rachyrach83 I also have no experience of hcg levels, but I agree with Frazzle, although I would expect it to drop massively to start with and then tail off at the end. But I would expect it would be zero very soon.

@Tinselbee I got EWCM about 11 days after the op, but if you were already bleeding it’s possible your hcg levels had started to drop before. Also, I’m so sorry to hear it took you 12 months to conceive.

@Frazzlerock here is a list of what I am taking....
Pregnancare conception (thinking about changing this)
Ubiquinol and pqq (I think the pqq helps the ubiquinol work better which is why I haven’t upped my dose to 300)
Dhea (this is a hormone and isn’t suitable for everyone, I’m not sure if it’s suitable if you have PCOS)
Oil of evening primrose
paba
Vitamin D (spray form is best as it absorbs better 1000mg)
Royal jelly
Bee propolis
Vitamin c
Ferroglobin (iron supplement with b vits and folic acid)

We both also took maca root last time which I havent restarted yet.
I do rattle 😁

I had quite bad shoulder pain in my left shoulder when I was pregnant, and I can still feel it. I’m beginning to wonder if it will ever go. Although at the moment I have pains around my shoulder blades so that is masking it atm. I also had hot feet last night and I have a stuffy nose, both of which I had in the tww, but I feel like I have pmt which I definitely didn’t have, and that was the main thing that made me think I was preggers. I am really trying not to have pmt but it’s definitely there, I really yelled at my boys this morning and now I feel terrible for having done that 😞

My boys break up from school in 40 mins, so much to do and so little time! Must dash! xxx

Morning everyone, had some really shit news last night, family dog has leukaemia. DM & DSF need to decide to go ahead with a blood transfusion which will prolong her life slightly, as opposed to cure, but trying to work out what the kindest option is. Today I feel like someone has put bricks in my "rucksack."
Had a mammoth cry last night - about everything - and did feel a bit better for it.
I just feel like something like this would be easier to deal with if I was pregnant still... I said this to DH and he looked at me a bit strange. Sounds ridiculous, but I would just be able to think to myself, "this is really shit, but I have to stay strong for my little bump." Now I've got nothing to be strong for.
We're off to Prague tomorrow for a long weekend so hoping that will lift things up.

@rachy I have absolutely no idea when it comes to HCG levels, I'm really sorry. As Frazzle said, you probably know more about this than we do, from researching.

@Frazzlerock, I know exactly what you mean. I have a cupboard full of Jaffacakes. I do like jaffas but I just can't bring myself to eat them knowing they were mini showjumpers favourite snack

All a bit negative nancy over here today - sorry ladies....!

@frazzlerock
Yes I started temping with a cheapy BBT from amazon that arrived last week. This is my chart so far....