The July '19ers - knocked down, but never beaten

rachy I suppose even with levels of 25hcg I am gonna be getting a BFP so should expect to take a while.

Hmmm, tbh I havent ever seen a drop that steep for a pre Ov drop! Could it be a drop in temp due to your hcg finally getting down to 0?

0 CM would also indicate not Ov yet too? Get DTD though just in case. I guess we all will just have to keep pouncing until new BFP or AFs!

My temps still a mess. I'm tempted to stop temping until I get a BFN tbh

Meant to say too... NO cm.... like non at all since ERPC

Having to use pre-seed.
Pre ERPC was rather more juicy shall we say
Guessing must be linked ??

Morning ladies!!
Any bbt-ers.... is this pre-ov drop do u think??
I did internet cheapie opk last night and it laughed at me it was so negative!!
Pounded on DH (made him late for work!) when I saw it just in case!

@tinsel
At 9 days I was at hcg of 194 (started at 33,000 on day found out no hb) my bfp was glowing!! But 1 week later it was much feinter.
Still no sign of Ov tho.... and opk (internet chespies tho) showing negative still.... DH is all up for trying again ASAP - but he doesn’t know all this BDing now is just to get him used to regular shagging!! Ha ha!!
Enjoyed a lot of pate and wine and gin over last few nights so trying to make most of it xx

smerlin if it really is bad it might be an infection? Get it checked out and ensure they take is serious as PID can cause issues with fertility (GPs can be reluctant to diagnose without STI history I found but with MC history they might consider it as that?)

Has anyone had a lot of cramping significantly after? Have had BFN after mc so not to do with that but feel like I have quite a lot of pain, possibly around ovaries? Am guessing either ovulation pain or start of period pain but really doesn't feel like any period pain I have had before?

I'm only day 9 post ERPC so I shouldn't be surprised, guess I thought maybe body be a bit quicker at it considering I've not had any real bleeding.

I'll ask my GP but the I won't hold my breath. I've been left in the dark I feel, no follow ups or anything.

How long has it been for you??
Day 17 post ERPC for me.
I brought some cheapies opk yesterday.... and clearly a negative :(
MY GP is good (at times) and is happy to hcg rest me weekly until normal, might be worth an ask??
My next test is Monday (results Tuesday) - doesn’t stop me doing a midweek hpt tho - I’m
A nightmare!! X

Really does suck Rachy horrid we just want a BFN now.

So I guess ovulation isn't gonna happen until a little while after we are back to getting a BFN?

Oh @tinsel isn’t it a killer!!
All we want is a positive test, but to get there we have to have a BFN first. It’s killing me too. This was my last one.... MUCH lighter than the week before but still there :(

Good Sunday morning to you all? How is everyone?

Prosecco how are you feeling this morning? Hope you aren't in too much pain.

Took a test this morning, BFP starring rigjt at me as soon as the pee touched the stick! So, oddly, devastating to see. Least I know that's why I have whacky temps atm.

@ProseccoBee I’m so sorry, it’s so devastating and for it to be happening over Christmas too, that can’t be easy. I haven’t got experience of a natural mc, but from what others have said it sounds similar to what you describe. Try to get plenty of rest xxx

Hi @prosecco
Sorry to hear that hun
The ladies on here are lovely and made me very welcome and I’m sure they will do the same for you.
It sounds like you are passing naturally now and I’m afraid I don’t have any experience of that as mine was a silent miscarriage at 9 weeks and I had to have ERPC.
You need time off to heal emotionally and physically, don’t feel bad about that!
I’ve just extended my sick note to jan! And you know what! I couldn’t care less. This is about me and work can wait!

Hope this thread gives you some support, it’s kept me sane the past week or so!! Xx

Hello ProseccoBee Sorry to see you here. But welcome a fellow Bee.

Oh no KinCat I can't believe you're here too now!

Rose temp taking is obsessive and if you know your cycles then worth steering clear!

Betty I am so sorry you're still in limbo still, must be so hard. Especially this time of year too.

My chart is odd this morning. Temp shot up! Buying a pregnancy tests today to see if I still have the hormones floating about.

Hi everyone, can i join you all? I was meant to be due the last weekend of June and this week I made it to twelve weeks. Had a pretty easy ride other than a bit of morning sickness in the earlier weeks but then out of the blue on Monday evening i started spotting, Tuesday it got even worse and started cramping. I managed to get an appointment at the EPU and they scanned and said it didn't look good, sac was an abnormal shape and the baby looked more like 7 weeks. They kept asking if I definitely had my dates right and i know for certain that they are. So they've said they don't think the pregnancy is viable but i have to go back in two weeks time 27th of December to confirm but they expected me to naturally miscarriage in the meantime. I think i was in total shock that day and managed to hold it together despite being a cryer at the best of times. Since then the bleeding but more so the cramping has been utterly severe and i'm just so shocked as to how much blood and how painful it all is. Have managed to ring in sick at work and i Have a Dr's appointment this week to get a sick note for the last few day of term as literally cant face going back to work for the Christmas party day and school nativity with all my lovely three year olds. I suppose i'm just at a bit of a loss now and made worse by the fact that my lovely sister in law is due the exact same weekend as we were, and she has had a terrible time herself with IVF so i feel so awful and guilty for her as well as its took the shine off and made her so upset. just feeling low at the minute hoping chatting with you all is the tonic!

BettySwoll0cks that sounds awful for you. At least you and your DH are on the same page about it. It would be an impossibly difficult decision if there was some progress though.

Rose68 I don't really know why she was so against ERPC. She just said why "put myself through that" and that it was better to let nature take its course. This after I'd clearly explained why I felt it was the best option for me! She called me a control freak for charting my temp but I think she's the one whose the control freak! Won't be going back to her.

You're right everyone with brown spotting on our thread seems to have not ended with a happy outcome. My Dr was quite convinced it was totally unrelated though. But I'm not totally sure I trust her judgement!

I'm thinking about taking a month off TTC and booking a dive holiday for the new year.

Afternoon all, I’m struggling to keep up again, I will blame it on Christmas [santa]

So, going back a bit, the shoulder pain I had was definitely pregnancy related, there is nothing else it could have been. I think there were a few of us on the July thread that had shoulder pain. When it was really bad I just wished it would stop and then when it started to get a bit better all I could think was ‘oh shit’.

I am an accountant, so that would be what I would do if I was to work for myself.

It’s strange because if you google about small fetal poles at 6 weeks there are loads of stories about it being fine and baby catching up. Yet every single one of us who measured behind has had bad news, also it seems the brown spotting is a real tell tale sign, but again, if you google it, it would seem to be fine.

@awakeatnight, sorry you find yourself here, but you are very welcome.

@edidxb have a fab holiday!

@Rachyrach83 it’s Bee propolis, 500mg a day and it’s meant to help with egg quality.

@kincat welcome, I am really sorry you are here, what was your doctors reason for being against an ERPC?

@Tinsel I have never done the temperature charting thing, I know I would obsess over it way too much and I know my cycle anyway so I don’t think I need to. However I was (rather ridiculously) taking my temperature in my ear with our thermometer when ever I feel like it during the tww, I would keep doing it until I got a temperature that I was happy with. Totally ridiculous!

@Frazzle I’m sorry to hear about your next doors baby, it’s not good shouting at a 5 month old, but I can understand that she was at her wits end. I think when we are in this terrible position it’s not always easy to remember just how hard work a baby can be. I had one that was very hard work and one that was a dream. It’s good that your colleague has contacted you, will you go for a coffee with her or politely decline?

Also, @Frazzle caffeine isn’t good for egg quality, could you switch to decaf?

xxx

Hi all, still in that shit limbo over here. Body still v sure it's pg, still no spotting or any sign of symptoms dying down. It's so unfair because like you all, I am now coldly evidence based about early pg and I'm almost waiting for my scan on Tues to be proven right; there are no gestational miracles, it's science and if you know when you conceived then a 2 week delay in development can only be a bad sign.

Unlike yours, my DH thinks it's obviously a wrong'un and if Tuesday's scan shows some development he still thinks I should have it terminated which is incredibly hard to contemplate. So I'm worrying about that now, if baby is still alive and has caught up a bit what then? Wait until it fails even further down the line? 14 weeks? 20 weeks? Urgh I just hate the not-knowing (and also feel like I'm wasting time w this doomed pregnancy when we could be getting ready to ttc again)

Rant over.

Happy Friday everyone

@KinCat really sorry to hear of your loss.

@Rachyrach83 I had the exact same- took a CB HPT that calculates date of conception and it went 2-3 weeks then 1-2 weeks. DH said that wasn't evidence as it wasn't a healthcare professional who told me to do that but I knew there was no way, given the dates, that my HCG levels could be in the 1-2 week band.

Welcome @KinCat but sorry you 're with us. Sorry you've had such a shit day @Frazzlerock. I find 3rd trimester people don't set me off as badly as people who are early days, as I still thought I would be over Christmas

That's great you have the flexibility Frazzle. Hopefully the weekend off will help. I'll be back in on Monday as long as everything miscarries this weekend and I'm kinda dreading it. Like you I've got very little on at the moment so too much time for sitting and thinking.

I feel you all on the dates and knowing when you ovulated. Especially if you've charted, it's pretty well understood and clear cut! I guess maybe the sonographers see lots of ladies who don't chart and are just out with their dates. That's the only reason I can think for it.

I've started bleeding properly now which is weird timing. DH said it's as if my body knew but my mind wouldn't accept it. Going to take some codeine and go to bed. Hope I don't ruin the sheets. Might sleep on a towel just in case.

@frazzle
You don’t know how your messages give me some comfort!!
There was a 3 week wait between the scan that showed slow growth and the scan that showed he had died.
During that time I was convinced I was going to lose my husband and my baby, and be left with nothing. He called me all the cold and heartless bitches under the sun, but I just knew. I’m a very ‘evidenced based’ person (I’m actually a detective so in my nature!) so hopes and dreams don’t cut it against cold hard facts!
Nothing could explain away:

1. dates of sex
2. dates I got 2-3 and 3+
3. having hcg Levels only rising by 10% and too high for early dates (wanted me to accept 26,000 at 5 weeks!)
4. a baby that was still dated at 5 weeks at 7 weeks and 8 weeks.

I understand the job situation too.
I have just been signed off till the 2nd Jan - I just can’t face it before then!! New year, new start and all that. Xx

Hi guys, another one joining from the July 2019 thread. Sucks but here we all are.

I had a scan last week that showed a 7+4 baby with strong heartbeat then we had another scan this week and no growth or heartbeat. I'd had some brown spotting which is why I went for the scan last week but the Dr today said the blood came from an ectropion on my cervix and was nothing to do with the miscarriage.

The Dr I saw today was very against the idea of ERPC and medical management is illegal where I live. Went to see a different Dr who will do ERPC on Monday if it hasn't happened naturally by then. I would leave it to nature but we're travelling home for Christmas and I don't want it hanging over me.

Hoping we can start TTC again soon after the ERPC.

@tinsel @frazzle

Thanks for the advice.... I’m not getting my hopesup, just getting back into the swing of things.

I agree with you about hospital not believing you about lack of growth. Although not temping etc me and OH only did it twice on the month I caught.... and so there was no way our dates were out! So when I just kept being told ‘it’s just 10days’ begind, to me that was like telling me I was the Virgin Mary conceiving without a shag!! I knew it was bad news from then and it caused so many nasty arguments with me and DH as he couldn’t understand why I was ‘writing this baby off’ in my own mind. He couldn’t understand that it just couldn’t be right.... and ultimately it wasn’t!

I was on another thread on another site that was full of enteral
Optimists who would tell everyone it would all be ok and baby would catch up.... but the end to the story never seemed to come, which indicates someone too broken hearted to post their devastating update.