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The July '19ers - knocked down, but never beaten

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Frazzlerock · 03/12/2018 09:41

Hey @TinselBee, @Rose68, @BettySwoll0cks

Here is the thread I promised us.

Somewhere for us to help eachother, pick one another up, cry, scream, laugh..

Some of us may be looking to try again, some may be putting things on hold. Whatever our plans, lets get through this together.

(I don't know whether conception was the right choice of topic, I can always have this moved to a more suitable topic if anyone would like me to)

I will look through our threads again and see if I can @mention anyone else who might like to join us

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ratherbeshowjumping · 18/12/2018 11:21

Congrats @Frazzlerock how exciting go go go!!!

Oh @Rose I'm so sorry. Sending hugs to you. I know how shit it feels.

@Betty that's really shit - I do hope it happens as quickly as it can for you. That sounds dreadful.
Sending lots of love to you.

God knows what is going on with my body. My mouth is like the Sahara desert, have a banging headache and my boobs are so sore. I'm also still having weird dreams and even had a gum bleed when I brushed my teeth this morning. Exactly the same symptoms as I had when I got my BFP last time. Cramps have completely gone, no sign of AF or PMT, so lucky DH I've done a test this morning, BFN. So, so frustrating. I am 98% sure I'm not pg, I just wish my body would stop acting like it was. Angry

TinselBee · 18/12/2018 11:15

Betty I am so sorry they really made you wait that long, would have been awful if they did stick to the 3 weeks! Sad sorry its over xmas

Frazzle just cant imgaine I'll be Oving when I am still getting BFPs though? We actually have had a similar experience so far though! FX for us all

Rose68 · 18/12/2018 10:44

Oh Betty I’m so sorry. I guess it must have happened soon after your last scan then, it’s so annoying that they made you wait 2 weeks and I know they wanted that to be 3. I really hope the next few days aren’t too dreadful for you, sending you lots of love & hugs Flowers

BettySwoll0cks · 18/12/2018 10:18

Morning all. Sitting at the hospital waiting for the doctor so I can fill out the medical management paperwork. Scan showed that my little bean died almost as soon as it started developing - 3mm only. So I've been carrying it around feeling crap for the past fortnight (nice). Not really looking forward to mc'ing at home over Christmas but it is what it is. Don't fancy ERPC because of my weird shaped womb!!!

@ProseccoBee sorry you went through it at the weekend; my first mc passed naturally and I do remember that as soon as the pregnancy sac was gone I started to feel better almost straight away. I hope it's the same way for you

@Frazzlerock everything crossed for a good strong sticky egg!! We are due some good news on this thread!!

A big hug to all xx

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Frazzlerock · 18/12/2018 09:50

oh @Rose68 I missed your post. That is shitty timing. Today will be hard for you. What you you doing today? Just think, you are starting a new fresh cycle, all you need to do is keep your DH on board for a couple more weeks. Hang on in there xx

@TinselBee Ah annoying about thermometer! But, funny you should mention pre-ov spotting, that was exactly what I was going to suggest but also didn't want to get your hopes up. Our cycles have been similar since our losses so maybe, just maybe, we are also synced with ovulation...? I say that like I am certain I have ov'd - see already getting my hopes up! Still I was in a very irritable mood yesterday so would explain that..

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TinselBee · 18/12/2018 09:45

oh Rose what awful timing ey? Sad Does sound like it must be Af then. Hopefully a new year baby will be conceived then?

Rose68 · 18/12/2018 09:33

I am exactly 4 weeks post eprc today, so I’m assuming it is proper AF. Today is also when I should have been 12 weeks 😥

TinselBee · 18/12/2018 09:22

Kin I havent a clue as I have only been here a few months but I imagine not at the glee from my colleague opposite!

Frazzle I think DS has run off with the thermometer as I couldn't find it this morning! No more spotting today though, was just that one small bit like what I get when I ov! Think you might be right though, probably from weird pregnancy hormones!

EEEEEEKKKK Frazzle go egg go go go ! FX

Rose oh no! how many days are you again? Did read on the other MC thread some people seem to stop bleeding only to carry on bleeding a week or two later! (was wondering if that was what the start of my spotting was going to lead to)

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Frazzlerock · 18/12/2018 09:18

Come on little egg...

The July '19ers - knocked down, but never beaten
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Frazzlerock · 18/12/2018 09:17

Hi all

@ProseccoBee Gosh that does sound horrific Sad.
When we lost our little Emily (first MMC) the Sonographer at the EPU went through all of my options. She suggested the surgical option would be the least traumatic and told me that miscarrying naturally at 9 weeks would be like giving birth with real labour pains. So basically what you described there.
Needless to say, I chose surgery at the time but then regretted it as I wanted to see my baby and say goodbye properly. I know that's not to everyone's taste but I felt in limbo where I had no idea where my baby was, they just took her away from me without any explanation. I eventually found out they cremated the babies from that week and put them in a burial plot in the local cemetery (90 in total including our little one). But that took a complaint to PALS and a (really lovely) meeting with the Matron of Gynae. Now I have a place to go but it's in London so a bit of a trek but we do visit from time to time, like on her birthday.
Sorry, I'm digressing again (my usual!). I think what I am trying to say is that I was warned of the trauma having the baby naturally but wasn't warned of the emotional distance I would feel with the surgery and how clinical and 'conveyor belt' it all was. This time I wanted to have my baby at home should the worst happen (before I knew I was going to MC), but they offered genetic testing so went for surgery for physical ease. I still don't know how I would feel MCing at home and seeing my baby. It's a choice none of us should have to make Sad and I still don't know what I would do next time...
You seem pretty upbeat though which is good, but I do hope you're not suppressing any feelings xx

@TinselBee - spotting? I don't know... I wonder if you still have preg hormones that you may still be getting rid of the last bits? What is your temp like today? Any clues there?

@Kinsters I cannot imagine having to do xmas shopping while it's all going on. I won't venture anywhere near the shops so managed to do a load of online shopping while I was still pregnant (and happy) thank god! Though I have still done a bit online since. I actually went into Tiger yesterday and walked straight out, the queue twisted the whole way around the shop.

How is everyone else?

So this morning Ovusense has predicted actual ovulation for today Shock. I'm trying very hard not to read too much into it, my temp could be just doing a PCOS thing. Still, we did some jiggery pokery this morning just in case Wink I'll also jump on him tomorrow too and maybe the next day if he hasn't got an injunction against me by then Grin
Will this be the one....

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Rose68 · 18/12/2018 09:14

AF has unexpectedly arrived here 😨😥

Kinsters · 18/12/2018 09:00

TinselBee I think you're right that it maybe just got bruised and stretched a bit, it's feeling better already.

That's nice about the food hamper. Do they do that every year? My cat loooves to play with my thermometer. No idea why but if she hears me pick it up she always comes over to play. If it's not on my table i know she'll have knocked it under the bed!

Kinsters · 18/12/2018 08:57

ProseccoBee that sounds unpleasant. I hope you're able to take the time to rest and recover.

I think miscarriages can be so different for everyone. When I had my pre erpc scan on Monday I could only see an empty sac with no baby whereas just three days before there was a definite baby shaped thing. It was weird. The doctor said it had been reabsorbed which I didn't realise could happen. They should have told you all the possibilities though - saying it's just like menstrual cramping when clearly it's not always like that is unfair.

TinselBee · 18/12/2018 08:53

Frazzle I am crying at my desk reading that article...

studies have suggested that fetal microchimerism protects women against the disease

I should have realised that was the case though that fetal cells enter women's bodies as my mum became seriously ill when pregnant with DSis and after birth became paralysed and now left with rheumatoid arthritis. DRs said it was her body's response to DSis' cells not being compatible with DM's which has left her with immune system issues.

Kin I hear you with being behind for Xmas! Maybe they over stretched you a bit when trying to open you up and its messed with your urethra etc? Hope it dies down, the pain that is.

oh Prosecco I am so sorry you had to go through that, especially with no warning on what it would be like. So sorry they did not explain what a natural MC can be like. Booking a holiday sounds like a great idea, will give you another focus and something closer to look forward to.

I'm feeling okay today, DH and I had a random in the middle of the night DTD session (both woke up feeling frisky at same time!) and that was actually really nice. Made me feel like we were back at the start of our young and naive relationship.

Got into work today to a massive bottle of fizz and lovely Betty's Xmas hampers from my Employer for Xmas! Proper lovely food stuff which I will save for Xmas Eve I reckon! Delicious

Lost my bloody thermometer to no clue what temps were like this morning, really frustrating. Reckon DS must have hid it somewhere.

ProseccoBee · 18/12/2018 08:39

Morning everyone, thanks for the kind messages. I had an awful weekend, Saturday contraction like pains out of nowhere and then really heavy bleeding I definitely though I had passed something significant because whatever it was it was big and tissuey. I felt much better on Sunday and I thought I was over the worst but then awoke to extreme pain early hours of Monday, I have honestly felt nothing like it. This lasted for two hours and then there was no denying that it was the sac with baby inside so that was kind of traumatic. Since then though the pain has subsided significantly and although still bleeding everything feels manageable now. I'm just pleased its over and done with and hoping I get a negative pregnancy test in the next week so i don't have to go back to the EPU for the second lot of scans. I am still in shock at how little they prepared me for the whole process though, when i spoke to the doctor she just said it would break down and it would feel like a menstrual cramp. It was so not like that at all! However i do feel stronger for it now and i actually think its put everything into perspective Think me and hubby are going to wait a month or so before trying again and going to plan a little holiday in february half term either krakow or Prague to take some time and enjoy ourselves. When we do ttc I am going to try and enjoy everything_ the whole process, more rather than obsessing about the end result( she says easier said than done i know) just because I now realise even more so how precious it is and how lucky you are when it actually happens. Got my fingers crossed for us all! I need to finish my Christmas shopping also and contemplate having wine and camembert at all of the festivities which are fast approaching which although will be lovely think I will still feel guilty at the same time for consuming it. How is everyone else feeling today?

Kinsters · 17/12/2018 23:16

Thanks all, so watery bleeding seems quite normal. I'm not in the UK which is maybe why they didn't make me pee before I left - different procedures. I'll see if it's any better today otherwise call the consultant. Just woken up and it feels a bit achey almost like a bruise Confused

Frazzle that is lovely info and I will think of it often.

I'm so behind on Christmas shopping. I was going to get it all finished at the weekend and then this happened. I'm signed off for the rest of the week but think I'll go in Wednesday and Thursday to tidy everything up and then request Friday off.

Rachyrach83 · 17/12/2018 18:52

@kinsters

My ERPC was 16 days ago

I had period like bleeding for 1 day
Watery bleeding for 2 days
Discharge watery stuff (sorry tmi) for 2 days
Then I started passing clots for a day
Then for 4-5 dats it was brown thick sludgy stuff - vile!!

Hope that helps.
I had bfp after 1 week
Feint bfp after 2 weeks.
(Day -1 hcg was 33,000, day 10 it was 194, awaiting today’s results)

I had some pain and was given 3 days of antibiotics on clotting day ‘just in case’ which stopped the pain.

Now waiting for the big O to start again.

Hope that info is of some use! Xx

Rose68 · 17/12/2018 18:07

@Kinsters, I also had watery bleeding & I had to do a wee before leaving. Strange you didn’t have to. No clots though. I’m expecting AF at the end of this week & I’m assuming it will have clots. I hope you are doing okay xxx

TinselBee · 17/12/2018 17:02

I'll give that a read later with a glass of red in my usual bath when DH is working. Thanks Frazzle

So started spotting. So confused! It's red and pink. Usual I get that post ovulation but wtf I can't have ovulated yet with BFPs still starting at me. Urgh

ratherbeshowjumping · 17/12/2018 16:20

Awww @frazzlerock that's so so lovely. The article made me cry.

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Frazzlerock · 17/12/2018 16:15

@Tinsel this is the article I first read about it:

www.nytimes.com/2015/09/15/science/a-pregnancy-souvenir-cells-that-are-not-your-own.html

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TinselBee · 17/12/2018 16:06

That is so lovely Frazzle and I shall remind myself that when I am low.

ratherbeshowjumping · 17/12/2018 15:53

@Frazzlerock I don't have PCOS so may just try to buy a cheapie one from amazon then. We were really lucky last time, I knew my cycle so well, but now it feels completely out of sync, I'm getting all these weird and wonderful symptoms I've never had before and I don't know where I am.

@Kinsters - glad today went quickly for you. Unfortunately I have no idea re the pain. Hope it feels better soon - Tinsel sounds much better equipped to give advice than me on this one....

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Frazzlerock · 17/12/2018 15:49

I just wanna share this with you because I love it and it makes me feel all warm knowing my three babies (and my two big babies) are always with me

The July '19ers - knocked down, but never beaten
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Frazzlerock · 17/12/2018 15:19

@Kinsters I'm glad all went well with the surgery. I also had watery bleeding.
But, like Tinsel, I had to wee before I left the hospital, so I'm surprised they let you go? I think you should call them and find out. did they leave their phone number with you? I was given a card with contact details on.

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