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The July '19ers - knocked down, but never beaten

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Frazzlerock · 03/12/2018 09:41

Hey @TinselBee, @Rose68, @BettySwoll0cks

Here is the thread I promised us.

Somewhere for us to help eachother, pick one another up, cry, scream, laugh..

Some of us may be looking to try again, some may be putting things on hold. Whatever our plans, lets get through this together.

(I don't know whether conception was the right choice of topic, I can always have this moved to a more suitable topic if anyone would like me to)

I will look through our threads again and see if I can @mention anyone else who might like to join us

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Rachyrach83 · 22/12/2018 08:37

Boo

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Rachyrach83 · 22/12/2018 08:36

@frazzle I love a long post.... it gives me something to read while I’m BBT-ing lol!!
Talking of which temp back down a bit but as missed yesterday due to bloody dog not sure what’s going on.

Glad to help re hcg.... it seems when your insurance pay in USA it’s a standard test.... here in U.K. we have to push nhs for it!

I’m just taking : pregnacare pre conception
Coenzyme 10
Melatonin (but every other night)
I’m also putting a bit of weight on as was a little skinny so trying to keep over 9st now.

@tinsel glad it was a relief to you!
Did you have erpc?? Your levels dropped quicker than mine. Let me know when things start occurring!!

Felt really out of sorts yesterday. Got the step-sons back from their evil mothers today for Xmas so it’s full steam ahead with pretending everything’s ok.... painting on that happy smile in 3..2...2.5....2.25..... lol

Frazzlerock · 22/12/2018 08:04

Bye fertile window, bye.... 😢

The July '19ers - knocked down, but never beaten
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Frazzlerock · 22/12/2018 08:04

Good morning all,

This is gong to be another one of my epic posts so ignore or grab a Brew

Just having a catch up and firstly I wanna say thank you for your 'big ups' for creating this thread.
However! I am not taking the credit! You have all been utterly brilliant and, despite the c*nty circumstances, I am so pleased we have been able to stay in touch and guide/support/rant at eachother after we had to leave our lovely group. I remember saying on there, when I had my constant doubts, that I'd be sad to leave because you've all been so fab Star Then, we we all left one by one and I just had to get us all together as I knew we'd all want to and would need the support of other people who are at pretty much the same point in this shitty journey.

Anyway, you're all brilliant so big love and thanks to all of you.

@Buggles1 Re your Q about supplements, @Rose68 is your gal but I have learnt a little bit thanks to her and a bit of internet nosying.
This is what i am taking right now - you ready? Wink

Inositol & Folate - For PCOS - it helps with insulin issues and acts as a natural form of metformin. Therefore helps to regulate cycles
Bee Propolis - Helps with egg quality, it is something the queen bee produces
Vitamin D spray - info here
Vitamin C - Think it helps to trigger ovulation but is a nice little supplement anyway
Evening Primrose oil - helps with egg quality before ovulation, best to stop after ov from what I have read online. So I am back on it again after a few days of thinking I was ovulating (more on that later)
Ubinquinol - Egg quality more on that here
Methylfoltate - supposedly better than folic acid especially if you have the MTHFR gene, which I don't know if I have, but it can't hurt to take it. I do wonder if I might have it as I have had two normal pregnancies and then years later I have had 3 MCs. I will find out at my RMC appointment I think.

Right, What the hell @ratherbeshowjumping, what a dick your MIL is! She clearly needs a hobby, and not FB! I don't know what to say, it's just so petty and what shit timing for you too. I'm so sorry your DH is being a twat

@TinselBee it is so so hard being around new babies and women who are oozing pregnancy/new baby happiness. I'd have had murderous thoughts re your colleague I think!

@Rachyrach83 IF it is any consolation I am now on day 23 today and my Ovusense has removed my fertile window so it clearly got that wrong as predicted by @awakeatnight. I am hoping this is just our cycles getting back to normal - though I worry with PCOS that I will start getting my epic 100 days+ cycles back that I used to have before 3 years ago. I will go nuts. Any news on OPK today? I've ordered a load so will start testing when they arrive. I wouldn't have known about the HCG count if it weren't for you Rachy. I might request it next time

@BettySwoll0cks what a gorgeous tattoo! Do you have a tattooist in mind? Or have you not got that far yet? It is hard to find a good one. I have one that is awesome but probably a bit far for all of you. She is in Erith SE London. this is her instagram account with loads of pics
Re hospital differences, I totally agree. I had Emily at St.Georges in London and my care was quite frankly, shit!
I had Popsy at Tunbridge Wells and the difference was immeasurable. I told my friends the other night that I would give it 5 stars on Trip Advisor "Would MC again" - but that is my very dark sense of humour. They did give me odd looks, even though they know I'm sick in the head Wink
Woah Betty your care sounds like mine for your DS. My milk never came in and both my boys lost so much weight but I didn't get any help. No one seemed to care. They didn't have tongue tie though it was just my shit boobs. I cannot believe you had to go private to discover that. How scary! Sad

@TinselBee that is exciting! I am back to the pre ov drawing board as my fertile window disappeared, look at my poor sad bare chart... Sad

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smerlin · 22/12/2018 07:15

That's good @TinselBee - helps to move on I thought.

I am in London. Gave birth at Kings before. Antenatal care great, labour and postnatal completely awful and consequently the first three months of my DD's life were a massive strain.

TinselBee · 22/12/2018 05:36

BFN finally this morning, 13 days post surgery.

Really thought I'd be emotional seeing that 1 line but actually I just feel relieved

TinselBee · 22/12/2018 04:53

Also, trying to not get excited... Just had what could be a pre-ov dip! Really hope I might be ovulating today/ tomorrow

TinselBee · 22/12/2018 04:52

Betty we must be pretty close as I'm between Colchester and Ipswich hospitals, which since having DS, are now part of the same trust. I've always rated Colchester hospital but again the aftercare from the EPU was shit. But their post natal ward was amazing. Tbf was just a certain MW I had a shit experience with really where she gave me a sweep without my permission. Due to that I don't know if I could go back to Colchester.

Rachyrach83 · 21/12/2018 23:22

I know!! I only found out through my frantic googling after my early scan!
Glad to share info xx

ratherbeshowjumping · 21/12/2018 23:12

That's really good to know, thanks Rachy. Surely it should be part of a standard gps test when you go in to confirm the pregnancy in that case?!

ratherbeshowjumping · 21/12/2018 23:11

That's true actually. I guess, don't ask don't get, & we haven't asked for anything.... but then how are you supposed to know to ask if you don't know what you're asking for in the first place...!

It's all ok confusing!

Dh is downstairs wrapping presents - we're officially not talking to each other now. I very pettily told him that if he truly thinks I'm going to start liking mils fb posts just to please her, he can stay here spending Christmas with her with the one glass of Prosecco, rationed & I'll drive to Bristol alone 🙈

Rachyrach83 · 21/12/2018 23:05

I think hcg monitoring is more common is USA, but seems a pretty clear indicator of how things are going!
Mine didn’t double (raised by 15%) over 48hrs like it was supposed to and ultimately that was a clear sign the growth wasn’t right. I’ll definitely be pushing for close monitoring when I get my BFP next time xxx

Rachyrach83 · 21/12/2018 23:00

Don’t get me wrong.... nothing was ever offered!! But as soon as I asked and justified it with weak symptoms and private scan reading early they didn’t object.
When I MC I asked them to track it back down and she gave me 2 blood test forms and told me to go after 10 and 17 days.
Sometimes it’s about what you ask for and justify well enough... I’m quite persistent when it’s important so it was probably the easier option! Lol xx

ratherbeshowjumping · 21/12/2018 22:55

That's truly awful. I'm so glad your son was ok but it sounds like you were really lucky.

Agree @Rachyrach83 follow up care is shocking. I only discovered that hcg levels were even monitored after reading this thread. There was no mention of anything like that, or a follow up appointment, just a come back in if the bleeding gets too heavy.

Rachy, it sounds like you're really lucky to have such a supportive Gp, he/she sounds fantastic xx

Rachyrach83 · 21/12/2018 22:45

@betty I love that!!! It's lovely!! Get it immediately lol!

I agree it's all so different
I got really good care at EPU and next day ERPC - and I have a GP who was happy to track my hcg both up (and sadly back down!)

I do feel under informed about 'what now' though and it's all very much 'wait and see' xx

BettySwoll0cks · 21/12/2018 22:41

I agree it is completely mad. Bury hospital mat unit is rated higher than Ipswich but like I say, people form their allegiances based on their experiences. I am on a military base and the ladies here are very much split on which is better. I was grateful to have DS delivered safely at Bury, but I now look back and am q shocked by the lack of aftercare. I was discharged 24hrs after the birth and my baby had not yet managed to feed, he lost 13% of his body weight in that first week and I wasn't re admitted. He got sleepier and sleepier until my milk finally came in, and then I went private and he was diagnosed w tongue tie. I have subsequently read some awful stories about babies who had a similar start, but a tragic outcome.

ratherbeshowjumping · 21/12/2018 22:26

That's beautiful Betty 😍

ratherbeshowjumping · 21/12/2018 22:25

That's shocking Betty. Which one is said to be the better one?
Maybe I'm being unrealistic but I genuinely don't understand how it would be too much hassle to implement a system in every hospital & mat unit in the country in order for every woman to receive the same, continued care wherever they are in the UK.

Going back to the previous thread, I remember being in awe of some ladies receiving their booking appts & scan dates through as early as 5/6 weeks whilst others (myself included) had no contact at all until much, much later. I don't want to be told how to suck eggs but I did feel quite unsupported during the short time I was pg. Most of the information I received about what to do/take/eat drink, what to do if x happens, when you receive your booking appt, etc was gleaned through MN as opposed to a healthcare professional.

Surely women, especially first time mums, should at least be given this information when they contact their gps in the first instance?

BettySwoll0cks · 21/12/2018 22:24

Sorry to change the subject but back to tattoos ... what about little birds? I was thinking 3, for the 3 little babies I've lost

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BettySwoll0cks · 21/12/2018 22:11

Yes it's not even county to county, it's hospital to hospital. I am right in between Bury St Edmunds and Ipswich hospitals (Suffolk) and their protocols are completely different. They even use different pregnancy notes. I've found that people are totally polarised by their experience of care, many around here swear by one hospital and absolutely berate the other. It's extremely hit & miss, it seems to me.

ratherbeshowjumping · 21/12/2018 21:55

Jesus @Rachyrach83 that's unhinged 🙈 those types of posts really do irritate me so much. No one in real life has ever said to me, "you know what, if you'd have just shared that post Rather, that dog really will know how heroic he is..."
What I think I'd be most impressed about is if I managed to get my dogs to allow me to put some ham on their face & them not eating it before I'd have chance to take a picture....---- 😂🤷🏽‍♀️

I'm from Bristol but living in Cornwall.

It is amazing how much the advice & healthcare differs county to county.

It's only through research that I've actually discovered that Treliske Hospital, the only one here with a maternity unit, was recently rated less than adequate with their mat, gynae & end of life care. Absolutely terrifying.

Rachyrach83 · 21/12/2018 21:38

Just wondering.... where are we all from?? Reading the comments about the difference in treatments etc made me wonder.....
I’m from Birmingham, England x

BettySwoll0cks · 21/12/2018 21:15

@Rachyrach83 wafer thin ham 😂😂😂 as though the dog would've given a shit how many 'likes' it got anyway 🙄

smerlin · 21/12/2018 20:55

@ratherbeshowjumping how ridiculous- can't believe your DH thinks you should like your MIL's posts to keep the peace ! Surely he realises how childish that is!

Rachyrach83 · 21/12/2018 20:34

@rather how immature!!
The ex MIL once shared a picture of a dog with a ‘burnt’ face asking for a million likes to show the dog it was a hero..... the dog wasn’t burnt in a heroic act of saving its owner... it just had a slice of wafer thin ham on its face!! That was the final straw... I full on blocked her 👍🏼😂

Ah it’s completely rubbish being out of sync - FX for new year resets xx