Page 18 | The July '19ers - knocked down, but never beaten

Frazzlerock · 2018-12-03T09:41:51+00:00

Hey *@TinselBee*, *@Rose68*, *@BettySwoll0cks* Here is the thread I promised us. Somewhere for us to help eachother, pick one another up, cry, scream, laugh.. Some of us may be looking to try again, some may be putting things on hold. Whatever our plans, lets get through this together. (I don't know whether conception was the right choice of topic, I can always have this moved to a more suitable topic if anyone would like me to) I will look through our threads again and see if I can *@mention* anyone else who might like to join us

TinselBee · 27/12/2018 21:57

Oh oh oh love a proposal story! Enjoying reading these!

DH proposed to me Last NYD (my birthday) after a treasure hunt which ended in him baking me a cake (he never bakes, thats my passion) whilst I had a romantic bath (my favourite thing to do). When I got out the bath he bought over the cake, with sparkles and sparklers and popped the question whilst balancing the ring in one hand and the cake in the other, was a funny sight!

We ended up getting married in May with just our 2 best friends (who are also engaged to each other!) And our son. See pic! We did have a massive wedding planned but my family caused so much drama and stress we just done it our way and all under £500 too. PIL were actually thrilled we done it so cheap and our way too!

Thank you for taking a look at the chart and at least giving it a consider frazzle and kin ! I guess for now I'll keep DTD as much as I can. Although AF should be here either in a few days or 3 weeks if going by 4- 6 week rule, so either should have ovulated by now or be roughly ovulating now I guess?

Oh smerlin that does bloomin suck so much! Urgh! Hope AF sorts herself out asap!

edidxb same here with feeling rather far behind in it all, im only CD23. Bloomin hope you can play catch up with rest asap.

Ratherbe YES positive thinking. Here comes 2019! FX

The July '19ers - knocked down, but never beaten

ratherbeshowjumping · 27/12/2018 15:35

Hi everyone just catching up...

@Frazzlerock & @Rachyrach83 what gorgeous stories! That's so, so romantic! Love that your dogs were involved too Rachy 😍 ours was the most unromantic proposal ever so I love hearing others. Both of your photos are stunning!!!

AF has finally stopped. I'm used to having really light AFs, literally 2 days, 3 if I'm unlucky(!) & this has been like a force from hell. I think it's got rid of all the gunk from the mc.

We've had a lovely few days - this morning DH & I rode the horses out together & we took the dogs to St Ives this afternoon. So nice to have a day not socialising, as awful as that sounds?

This Christmas really cemented how desperately badly I NEED a baby in our lives. My dh is the only one of his siblings not to have a little one, and it was really sad to watch him with his brothers & sisters yesterday.

I'm so excited to finally get a sticky bean in 2019... (I'm saying it like that as it IS going to happen!).

edidxb · 27/12/2018 12:39

Oh what lovely stories to read this afternoon @RachyRach83 and @Frazzlerock. I LOVE the photos too. I don't have any photos from the engagement but we went for a dog walk (similar) in Luxembourg where we were living at the time up in the vineyards and my DH proposed using a haribo ring! It was a lovely moment. We then went to Antwerp and chose the diamond and got the ring made. That was 7 years ago now.

@Tinselbee - I have no idea how I am functioning. For the last 4 nights in a row I have had just 3 hours sleep. I actually feel really unwell today and probably shouldn't have driven to work today as I am struggling to walk in a straight line.

I had gel nails done before going on holiday so I went after work today to get it scraped off (forgot it was 27th Dec and the mall was crazy busy but anyway) and then I got a normal manicure and pedicure done and I must have nodded forward/off about 10 ten times. I think the girl doing my feet was getting annoyed as she would make a mistake each time I lurched!

I took a pregnancy test today as I just decided I couldn't help it. I haven't taken one at all yet so had no idea how my HCG levels were. Plus of course there was a little part of me hoping that a positive test might mean a BFP. Well, I got my answer - BFN so I suppose that's good that I am all out of HCG and can move on. Still no idea if I have ovulated and I am a little bit like you all - expecting pink each time I wipe.

@smerlin I think it probably is your period. Everyone is so different though so it's hard to tell.

I am on CD22 today so still a while to go. 3 weeks tomorrow since the D&C. And my doctor and the internet all say 4-6 weeks for 1st period so I have a while yet...........

Rachyrach83 · 27/12/2018 12:07

Aaahhhhhh that’s amazing!!!!! What a darling!!!! Congratulations!!!!!!!!! Xxxxxxxx

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Frazzlerock · 27/12/2018 11:30

@Rachyrach83 those photos! 💜

I will dig out some more of ours from the day so you don't feel alone on the face pics (I don't give a monkeys either)

Actually sod it! I will tell you all the story now.

(DS1 actually recorded the whole thing but I don't think you can upload videos on here)

Once we'd all finished opening presents, DP ran upstairs and cane down with something behind his back. He explained about us wanting to do a balloon release for our babies but we don't like the idea of it for eco reasons. So he created a balloon from scratch using all eco friendly materials (pic below) Everything about it was eco friendly. You should be able to see 3 little tags for each of our babies hanging inside from the top.

He said he had a place in mind to release it. It's a hill near us called Toys Hill which he said seemed perfect for the occasion given its name. (2nd highest point in Kent apparently)

So off we went. Reached the top with DP, his mum, and my two boys. DP has his Bluetooth speaker and took me over to release the balloon while the others hung back and watched.
He played Magnificent by Elbow which has a huge meaning for me with our babies and everything we've been through.
We let the balloon go while we hugged and cried. Then it got stuck in a tree (obviously 🙄) 😂

Then another song came on, Cat Power's version of Sea of Love. My absolute favourite song and one I'd said I wanted played at our wedding (I still didn't don't twig).
He looked at me and said he missed me so much when we were in hospital when I was wheeled away into theatre and he never misses anyone (true). He said he never wanted to miss me again, got down on one knee and asked me to be his wife and produced the ring!

I didn't know wether to laugh or cry so I laughed 😂 I obviously said yes too

Then he took me over to a tree nearby and he'd already carved our initials into it (pic I showed you before)

Then we went over to the others. DS2 was in tears because of the balloon release 😢 We were worried he was upset we were getting married but he said of course not (phew!)

Then DP pulled out some champagne and flutes from his bag and that was it! 😁

He'd put so much effort into the day, the ring is even 100% ethically sourced which he knows I'm a big fan of.

I think he's a keeper 😉

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Kinsters · 27/12/2018 10:23

TinselBee I think my "cold" might just be allergies. My parents house is absolutely ancient and practically made of dust.

I think it's hard to make an accurate judgement of your chart because of the open circles on CD18, 19, 20 and 21. Plus this time of year and what you've been through doesn't lead to restful sleep. Tbh I'd give it some time for your body to settle and just have regular sex to try and catch the egg (though appreciate this is easier said than done, especially if you've been trying for a while).

Frazzle I'd love to hear your engagement story! My DH proposed on a beach holiday on one of our favourite Malaysian islands last summer. He's very not romantic and doesn't usually surprise me so it was a lovely moment. I'm pleased you liked Malaysia! I agree that it's a beautiful country. Holding your niece must have been difficult. I'm not tracking my cervix or temp or anything really, just giving myself some time to get back to "normal" before starting again.

Betty I got pregnant quite easily so I'm going to keep doing what I was doing - no caffeine and taking folic acid and getting lots of sunlight for the vitamin d. I'm also going to try and add in some exercise.

Rachy those pictures are so lovely! I've been trying to find out more info about the drug that prevents miscarriage and can't see much except it possibly stops the uterus contracting?

edidxb I'm dreading the jetlag when we get back home. We arrive at 8am on new year's eve and have a party to go to that evening but I think we'll probably stay for dinner and then slip out early. Back to work on the 2nd

Rachyrach83 · 27/12/2018 10:06

Firstly- sorry for the bold!! Not entirely sure what happened there! 😂😂

@smerlin mine is odd too.... 1 day normal, 1 day niagra falls, half a day normal..... nothing since yesterday lunchtime!! Is it possible it was so heavy on day 2 I’m done?? Does it work like that?? Hope yours sorts it’s self out soon x

smerlin · 27/12/2018 09:44

Beautiful pics Rachyrach!

Am getting slightly fed up with AF situation this week. Sorry TMI but keep having a fair amount of brown/pink/red discharge when I wipe but it is not actually turning into proper AF. Will be another month wasted next month if I can't work out when I ovulate.

V much doubt is implantation bleed as quite red but just wish would turn into a normal AF

Rachyrach83 · 27/12/2018 09:28

Hey @frazzle

Sounds like you are on cloud 9... that’s so lovely to hear!! My heart bursts for you!!
My DH proposed on a snowy dog walk in all that snow we had last December.i absolutely LOVE snow.. and I ADORE my dogs (4 yr old choc lab and a 14yr old rescue spaniel type) !!! He said he had planned to pop the question on Xmas Eve and has brought the ring.... but when he saw all the mega deep snow he new it had to be then! We were walking through the woods and he said ‘go up there with the dog and I’ll take your picture...’ so I trudged up the path and when I turned round he was on one knee in the snow!! 💕
We planned our wedding for August, but then moved it forward to April with mums diagnosis and it was fabulous! Had a afternoon tea theme at a Laura Ashley Hotel in Solihull and had gin cocktails in teacups instead of Buck’s Fizz etc! The DH’s young sons (4 and 8) were his best men and had matching suits and did a little speech! It was perfect!!
Enjoy planning yours @frazzle - biggest tip... do what YOU two want!! Ignore everyone else!! We wanted Gin and Cake... so that’s what we had!! People interfere but tell them to butt out!

I’m not sure if there’s some kind of rule against photos on here but I don’t care! This is me on 2/3 of the happiest days on my life!!

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Frazzlerock · 27/12/2018 09:02

Good morning all. I hope you have all been able to have a good Christmas so far. It's hard, right?
Thank you all for the congratulations

I'm sorry for the radio silence the past few days. All been a bit of a whirl!
We've also got my future MIL (OMG, can't believe I can finally say that ) staying with us so it is hard to get time to sit and catch up properly

I've got my and ready to see what you've all been up to.

@Rachyrach83 I read your link when you posted it and it is quite incredible if it is true! I have made a note of it in my RMC notes. Our consultant is gonna hate me I've so many questions and suggestions. And I've still got two months left to think of more..
How is DH's manflu? More importantly, how are you feeling now after your down time the other day? I think we can all sympathise, I had planned to tell everyone at DP's birthday surprise on xmas eve and, instead, I was holding his 9 week old baby niece - the one who has my girl's name I'm so pleased DH is finally able to understand what you're going through but annoyed that it took that huge bleed for him to realise!

@Rose68 That comment was really shit, I think you should ignore it or laugh it off, it is ridiculous unless this person has met every man in the universe. I know a lot of grown up mummies boys. In fact I thought this was more likely thank not. How are you feeling today?

@smerlin any sign of AF? I'm like you with the pink wiping...

@BettySwoll0cks how are you doing? Has bleeding slowed down any? I LOVE the Bob Marley link to the birds tattoo. My tattoo friend in Erith does have a bit of a waiting list, also there is Life Family Tattoo in Sevenoaks (my local town) which has a huge waiting list as they are so good. They did DP's and my morse code arrows on our arms (not that that was hard to do so that's not a very good example!)
Re cutting stuff out of diet, apart from xmas, I have cut down massively on gluten, dairy, sugar and caffeine as PCOS hates all those things. I got pregnant with Popsy doing this. It was miserable but my god was it worth it. I also don't drink much so alcohol is easy to avoid. I will get back on it after NY.

@Kinsters Glad to read you have a good doctor. Malaysia is so beautiful. I went to Borneo and KL and few years ago and was blown away. lol at the speculation about being pregnant, I guess the wine debunked that! But I felt so sad for you too, I wish you could have told them they were right and that you still are preg

@TinselBee Glad to hear you got your +OPK! I hope you have been bonking like mad. FWIW you are not a bitter cow (and you know that!), you are experiencing things in a very natural manner. It is unfair and it does feel like a dagger to the heart when you're in these situations. Your chart is confusing. I've no idea I'm afraid

@ratherbeshowjumping I'm the same as you, no idea whether I'm expecting Ov or AF. I'm a couple of days behind you at CD28 Although, I've just caught up and see your AF is here now so maybe I won't be far behind you... And YES BFPs in new year from all of us. Preferably as close together as possible so non of us are left behind!

@edidxb lovely to have you back and I'm so pleased you had such a great time! You deserve it x

I'm not so bothered about my ovulation prediction disappearing now. I can see my temps are dropping slowly everyday and HPT is now negative. Hopefully ov can happen soon, though I've had very pale pink when wiping yesterday and again this morning (I notice a few of you have had this? ) so maybe I will go straight into AF I guess time will tell.
I will keep doing OPKs until ov or AF just so I can see if there is any pattern for future cycles.

Are any of you tracking your cervix? I have been and there doesn't seem to be any pattern from one day to the next. Seems to be different everyday. I remember this fro tacking years ago when TTC DS2 o I'm not sure if I am just crap at understanding it or it really is all bollocks, or PCOS...

I'm still on cloud nine after the amazing proposal. I keep looking at the ring and I just love it so much. I keep forgetting we are engaged, then I will see a sparkle from my finger and go all warm and tingly again I'd love to tell you all how he did it but it will be really long and this post is already beating my epic posts

Maybe we should all share our proposal stories, I'd love to read them.

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TinselBee · 27/12/2018 08:08

Here is my full chart for today too. Temp is back up but not super high

TinselBee · 27/12/2018 07:58

How are you functioning edidxb right now?

Cutting back the drink and any caffeine will surely help Betty Be careful how much meat you remove btw and if you do remove it ensure you are getting good sources of iron and protein still. My Dr freaked out at me when I said we only have 1 serving of meat a week now, she also freaked when I said I have porridge oats for breakfast, apparently I should ensure I'm having cereals that are fortified with vitamins and minerals and not plain porridge as it's empty calories? But it might be different for me as I've only just entered the healthy BMI weight and have other health issues.

FX you don't get a full blown cold Kin

Rose oh bless you, hope you're feeling better emotionally today

edidxb · 27/12/2018 00:18

Morning all. 4.15am here and the jet lag is still going strong. I woke up at 2am after 3 hours sleep and finally got up at 4. This is 4 nights in a row now of 3 hours sleep. It will get better at some point, but it's pretty grim in the mean time.

I am going to massively cut back on the alcohol. I had a few drinks last night and I don't think that is helping with me not being able to sleep. I don't drink loads as a whole, but too much too frequently.

I am also planning on cutting back on the carbs.

Rachyrach83 · 26/12/2018 23:02

Hey Betty
I had invisilign 9 years ago when I was 26, man they hurt at first when you get a new moulds so chewing if off the agenda!! Persevere!! They are worth it!!
Get a fixed bond retainer when you finish! So glad I got mine! 9 years still going strong!!

My resolution is to keep up the suppliments and get enough sleep x

BettySwoll0cks · 26/12/2018 22:41

Evening all. Partly inspired by previous conversations about supplements, but also in light of the fact I've just demolished half a bottle of wine and much of a cheeseboard ... does anyone else have any ttc-related lifestyle tweaks planned for the new year? Mine are:

Fully wean DS off the boob. For many this doesn't affect fertility, for some apparently it does. He's going to be really upset but he's 2.5yo so he's had a pretty good run
More vegetables, less meat, eliminate processed foods.
No drinking alcohol during the week. I can easily do a half bottle of wine per night and more at wknds - not a good habit. More water.
Exercise. 4x per week even if it's just light (eg long-ish dog walk)

I'm getting Invisalign braces in 2 weeks so I reckon that should help w the eating ... no opportunity to mindlessly pick at bad foods. I can't really control sleep quality, my DS is a total sleep thief.

Any more?

Rachyrach83 · 26/12/2018 16:47

You may be right @rose as I feel physically better today than I’ve felt in 3 months!! Hopefully I’ve fully reset!
Something definitely wasn’t right, but FX as it’s tapered right off to light flow now.

Sorry you are feeling low, it’s hard because in a perfect world we had the perfect timing.... Xmas announcement and being fussed around by family and sale shopping for our babies... but life wasn’t perfect for us :(
However, take your 5 days of this year to feel sorry, and fresh start in 2019. Live to you all xxx

Rose68 · 26/12/2018 14:16

Rachy I wonder if you had some retained product that your body was trying to flush out? If it’s slowed down now that’s good and I don’t expect you will have any more trouble. I’m so sorry you had to deal with that on Christmas Day, it can’t have been easy.

Emotionally I am not great today and I can’t seem to snap myself out of it. 😥

Kinsters · 26/12/2018 11:52

edidxb I'm KinCat. And you're right, I'm based in Malaysia (although back in the UK for Christmas). You're in the middle East right? I found quite a lot of comfort in the expat groups I'm a member of on Facebook. The cruise sounds amazing!

Tinsel the temps don't look like you ovulated yet but, yeah, they could definitely be affected by if you're restless etc.

Rachy that sounds like an awful period, pleased to hear that it seems to have tapered off a bit and that your DH is being good to you. I've read that periods can be different after a MC.

We're just having a lazy boxing day. I got Michelle Obama's book so I'm reading that and DH is doing a bit of work. I also feel like I'm coming down with a cold which sucks as the next few days are going to be very full on seeing friends and family.

smerlin · 26/12/2018 09:34

Wow Rachyrach83 that sounds awful. Glad you managed to enjoy Christmas all the same though!

TinselBee · 26/12/2018 09:32

Actually edidxb tbf I'm not even sure I had 3 hours sleep when I took that temp. I know I woke up in the hour of 3 as I looked at my phone and just saw 3 and then tried for a while to get back to sleep before I did then I woke up just past 6... Just remembered that as DH said he saw I was restless last night... But I always thought restlessness raised temps?

Oh thats a relief it has calmed down after that weird sneeze episode Rachy !! Glad you had a lovely day despite everything too

Rachyrach83 · 26/12/2018 08:53

Morning all
Thank you for your concern
Sorry this is a minging post!!

The good news is it seems to have got better overnight. But after I posted that message I sneezed (with tampon in) and literally gushed and soaked through my pants and jeans in a psych about size of apple!! Luckily I had dark jeans on and could rush to change into my PJs saying i wanted to be in my comfies! I was so bloated I looked 5 months pregnant!!
Managed to sneak a sanitary towel from sisters washbag and slept with tampon and that..... and this morning it hadn’t even soaked tampon. Odd! It’s got from thick goop hanging down to funny thin blood and hopefully now normal xx
Told DH what was going on yesterday, he usually hates knowing about women’s stuff, but when he saw what had happened to my jeans and I explained that was WITH a tampon I think it was a massive realisation what’s happened to my body and how much it’s affected me physically and he’s wrapping me up in cotton wool today - which is nice.
Thanks for all your advice, I’ll undoubtedly be back for more!!

Oh. And that cruise sounds divine!!!!

Yesterday (apart from AF) was lovely! Had an adult Xmas round mums and she had the best time! First time she seemed happy in a long time which was heart warming.

Today is our day with the kids- their mother had them yesterday as we had them last year.
DH on the way to get them now then off to the MILs for a crazy kid filled Xmas #2 (6boys all under 9!) so I’m going to plonk myself in the kitchen with a bottle of fizz and try tonnkt get stressed!!
Oh- and forgot to bring BBT! Damn it x

edidxb · 26/12/2018 08:19

@smerlin - it was a cruise. We started in Barbados, then St Vincent and Grenadines, Dominica, Guadeloupe (where we went on a Death in Paradise tour - love that show!), St Barts, BVI and St Martin. Pretty cool islands on quite a small ship. It was expensive but all inclusive. We had booked it as a "last holiday without children" holiday before I got my last BFP. Either I would drink if not pregnant or just enjoy the holiday if pregnant.

@tinselbee - I am not sure your temps are reliable to really tell. You could have ovulated on 22nd and the most recent are rogue. It's tough to tell. It is so frustrating though. I wish in some ways I had managed to temp this month but it's quite nice not to agonise over my chart. But equally I have no idea if I have ovulated or not and when to expect AF.

I saw @kincat here when I was reading through what I had missed, but I can't remember your new username. I remember you from the July group as you were also a non UK based person. I am really sorry to see you here as well. Although, this group is turning out to be an amazing group of ladies.

I have unpacked this morning, put two loads of laundry on, been food shopping and collected my dog from the kennels. My husband is at work and it doesn't feel much like Boxing Day at all. I really want to make sure I am home in the UK next Christmas period or my parents come here - it's just not the same otherwise.

I feel really shit with my lack of sleep but am trying to power on through.....

TinselBee · 26/12/2018 07:32

FX for you Smerlin

What's everyone's plan today for Boxing Day?

smerlin · 26/12/2018 07:13

@Rachyrach83 are you ok this morning?

@TinselBee took a FRER test on Boxing Day that was a strident negative. Will test in a few days if AF not here still.

@edidxb your holiday sounds fab. Was it a cruise or an island visit?

TinselBee · 26/12/2018 06:30

Morning all!

Rachy if you soak through more than every hour go get checked for sure. Maybe if a Phone call to 111 would be a good idea for now even? When I had PID I was soaking through pads every hour and had periods how youre describing in texture had every time i had a period so possibly could be an infection.

Smerlin apologies if you have already, but have you taken a test to rule our implantation bleeding?

edidxb hope you recover from jetlag quickly and sounds like you did have a wonderful time. FX all that DTD will see you have another BFP soon.

So, my chart does not indicate I've ovulated at all. Although like edidxb my CM has now turned creamy which usually happens after I've Ovd. I have disregarded the whacky temps at start which I think we're caused by either pregnancy hormones and/or excessive drinking to make it look more rational but this morning's temp certainly doesn't suggest ovulation.