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University and TTC

107 replies

pinkflower22 · 25/11/2018 12:54

Hi guys. I guess I need some advice please.

I'm finishing of my last year of university and I would really like to have a child with my partner.

A part of me keeps hesitating and thinking maybe I should do my teacher training year but then I keep going back to thinking no I definitely want my own baby as a year seems so long to wait and then start trying.

I will go back to work once the child is old enough after a couple of years or even do my teacher training year then.

I will make do on any help government provides for the next few years plus my partners income.

I'm not sure what to do. My in-laws would have a heart attack and say your both two young and we both are not financially stable enough, but I think that will be able to bring up children in a cost effective way, by not buying the most priciest things.

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ChristmasSprite · 26/11/2018 16:42

You have a whole university full of peers, it really isn't going to get better than that in terms of opportunities. Are you not socialising with your peers at all?
Maybe because you go home to a partner you have been missing out on that part of uni life? Its so huge, and I can't believe you are not Bart of it in some way?
Do you belong to societies? If you don't you really need to develop some of your own interests through them.
There are so so many activities clubs and societies to get involved in at uni. You are young, go out there and live!

physicskate · 26/11/2018 15:49

Work in the library? Kids on my course used to book one of those study rooms and work together. It caused us to become friends...

pinkflower22 · 26/11/2018 15:28

@Presh12345 yes we did make a list and we can afford it on his wage.

The only reason I've changed my mind is because of later down the line. I don't know if I will end up doing teacher training in five years time so I think it's best to do it now

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pinkflower22 · 26/11/2018 15:25

@Presh12345
We actually do spend a lot of time together, but in the daytime I get bored studying with a lack of human interaction and no one to see

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pinkflower22 · 26/11/2018 15:24

@Verbena87 thanks very much. I'll double check for my application. I hope I get in!

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Presh12345 · 26/11/2018 12:49

I hope I don't sound patronising because on this (very sensitive) board of TTC, we are all in the same position. However, I have to say that at 21 you sound very young, immature, innocent and like you have no idea about the real world. You say you want a child because you are lonely? Actually? Have you any idea how that sounds? You need to build a solid relationship with your boyfriend and if this is as solid as you say, then you should not be lonely. Assuming he is around the same age as you, will he be working his nuts off, working every hour God sends to keep you at home with a baby? And not buying expensive things? Have you made a list of things and how much they actally cost?
As a side note, please, please, if you are going on to train as a teacher, sort out the grammar and spelling! I am in that profession and application forms with such errors are not looked on kindly. I wish you all the best with whatever decision you make.

Verbena87 · 26/11/2018 11:47

Good decision OP; good luck with it all.

I’m sure you will anyway but when you finish your application make sure you proofread closely for spelling/grammar - there are some dodgy bits of both in your posts which is fine for quick forum messages but will let you down in an application (not trying to be a nob, but as an art teacher lots of us are dyslexic and so need to be conscious of extra checking!)

ChristmasSprite · 26/11/2018 00:43

There is much you can do and need to do for yourself before such a massive commitment in your young life. Keep using the protection!

And very good luck with the rest of your studies and your teacher training, that will show you more to occupy you than you ever thought possible.

You will no longer look for distractions, and a baby certainly is not merely one of those!

pinkflower22 · 26/11/2018 00:02

Thanks everyone for your replies. I hope I haven't sounded like an ignorant person I've took everything on board.

I've decided to do teacher training and have continued with part of my application

I think loneliness wasn't the right word. I wanted something to distract myself and I could give all my love to that wasnt study

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Verbena87 · 25/11/2018 22:58

My PGCE year was much tougher than my first year of motherhood in terms of sleep, feeling overwhelmed etc. No way I could have done it with a child (and hats off to the amazing women who do). I think if I was in your shoes I’d do PGCE and NQT year before TTC, unless you’re at an age where your fertility’s beginning to decline, or you have a medical reason not to postpone having children (I have a friend with PCOS who has been advised to start trying before 30 by her gynae, for example)

maybe2018 · 25/11/2018 22:56

Tbh,
I think you're thinking too far ahead in discussing breakfast clubs etc.
Please wait to have a child!!!! It's for the best.

Daisymay2 · 25/11/2018 22:53

Christmas Sprite is right.
OP a baby is hard work and not a cure for being lonely. I think you may need some help with looking at why you feel so lonely - even in a loving relationship. There must be a counselling service at the Uni. Please refer yourself- if not for you for any child you may have.
Also getting on a PGCE or ANY job will be difficult if you don't work for 5 years after Uni. You won't be going back to work you will be starting work, and will be up against new graduates.
Sadly, I don't think you want to hear anything apart from confirmation that your plan is a good one. It isn't.

ChristmasSprite · 25/11/2018 20:55

Right, there are so many issues here OP.
Will you even accept that the way you talk is naïve, and comes across as really childish.

You have nothing, basically. Your partner has a home, u don't.
Why would anyone plan to marry when the are pregnant, noone does that.

If you and he want to marry that's what you would be doing

They would be happy, but they'd be happy to ha dgc!?!?

Can you hear yourself?

I am really sorry you feel so lonely and empty emotionally, and struggling to make connections with friends in your peer group, but these are the problems you need to be addressing, as hard as that may be.

With you set of issues, you with a baby could be heading for an absolute disaster. Massive risk of pnd, unable to cope not having any family and friends , baby keepin you up all night, and then not settling in he day, and all alone with it, yes very alone. It can be the most isolation not experiences.

You came here with questions, and attempting to knock back some very wise advice that you have sought, but why have you sought it when you refuse to read it properly and accept this is not the way to do this successfully, or to have a career an be independent.

You need to seek support through therapy to manage these desperately needy feelings.

Is your partner desperate, at any cost, like you?

ChristmasSprite · 25/11/2018 20:39

*wrong!

ChristmasSprite · 25/11/2018 20:38

You feel lonely, yet you are in a relationship.

Things are Aron

ChristmasSprite · 25/11/2018 20:37

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ChristmasSprite · 25/11/2018 20:37

There are some really great things you can do for lonelines, and wanting a little baby to love you and fill your days, is not even remotely on the list.

It is sheer hard work, and if you are lonely and don't feel loved enough you will rese the demands that a tiny life will place on you. You will be stuck indoors 24/7 potentially whilst your partner goes out and lives his life!

cheeseoverchocolate · 25/11/2018 20:32

There are four pages of parents and/or teachers telling you not to do it for a reason.
Honestly, do your PGCE and NQT then go for a baby then. You'll get maternity leave and have a job to go back to, and would have more flexibility of working 'on your own terms' (part time.etc).
Both the PGCE and NQT years are brutal without children, never mind with a child to look after. Well, actually, you won't be looking after your child for two years as you will be too busy lesson planning and marking most evenings. You talk about feeling lonely: how will your child feel when his/her mum has no time for him/her whatsoever?
What if your partner leaves you or is unreliable? Then forget about the starting a career...

ChristmasSprite · 25/11/2018 20:31

You don't have enough. You said you dont., very clearly you said you don't.
If the student loan find out you have extorted money you will be in the shit, truly.

Student loans are for students study! You seriously are taking the piss, and abusing the help you are getting and plan to deliberately do it again.

Pp keep telling you what a bad idea this is but you are not listening, and abusing funds, and deliberately planning to claim benefits.

Why doesnt that bother you.

I think this must be a joke, you clearly have a brain to be doing a degree, so why are you not being more grown up about this?

How long have you and your partner lived together? How does he feel about being plunged into this level of financial burden and stress so young?

You have mentioned how keen or otherwise he is. How old is he?

SenoraSurf · 25/11/2018 20:19

I had this exact predicament in my final year of uni. I decided to wait till after my NQT year. The training and nqt year is all consuming. You'd feel guilty for not doing your best for the kids you teach as well as feeling guilty for being tired/busy with a little one of your own.

I have done my training and completed the NQT. I've started a new job in September and am now 4 weeks pregnant!

You know what is right and how you feel but you also need to consider what would be best for your future too. I now will have more money on SMP pay and don't have to worry about training for my career.

Good luck in whatever you choose OP xx

NoseringGirl · 25/11/2018 20:08

You say one of your reasons for wanting a baby is that you feel lonely. I had a decent circle of friends, supportive family and a wonderful husband when I had my first baby and it's still the loneliest I've felt in my life. It's got better but it was very hard.

Blondemother · 25/11/2018 20:05

I had my first child a lot later (education complete, career established, etc) and the first year with a baby was at times one of the most lonely and isolated of my life.
If you are lonely I don’t think a baby can, or should be expected to, fill that hole in your life.

MrsG010814 · 25/11/2018 20:03

Op your posts make it abundantly clear that you are very immature and quite frankly living in a dream world. A baby adds a huge amount of stress to even the most stable of situations. I have 2 dc and about to return to work after having my second. I had a well established career prior to my first maternity leave but its still a huge struggle to get back on track after taking time out. I think you are massively underestimating how much a baby costs in the first few years. How long have you been with your partner? What's your plan if your relationship falls apart after having a baby?

Janleverton · 25/11/2018 20:02

Would you plan to have one child or more than one. If one, you would still be looking to have 5 years of no income, total reliance on your partner, little support. If you ever thought to have another dc, you’re hardly going to wait until after pgce in 5 years, then NQT and a couple of year teaching unless you’re looking at an 8 plus year age gap.

Having a baby is not a substitute for friends and family. It really isn’t. It’s very difficult even with good money and support behind you. I’m concerned that you’re going to end up tied and unhappy and will not be in a position to give your dc the best start in life.

greendale17 · 25/11/2018 19:43

I have no family support but I know I will have support from my boyfriends family 100% even though they won't be pleased I think they will be pleased to have a grandchild

^it gets even worse. I despair!

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