still TTC your first baby? want some glastonbury luck?

treenie - percentages of those who get their BFPs on set dpo are as follows:
10dpo=35%
11dpo=51%
12dpo=62%
13dpo=68%
14dpo=74%
15dpo=80%
16dpo=88%
17dpo=92%
and there are some who have not got their BFP until 21dpo
So wait as long as you can before testing. The only way you know it's a BFN for certain is when AF arrives. GOOD LUCK!!

Ladies just read this and it's given me hope. Have a look. I reckon that the tests say 'can tell up to 4 days before af due' because they know we all want to know asap and therefore will test too early, have to buy more and make more cash for the companies. Not testing again till next week if af still hasn't arrived. Determined now!
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www.4woman.gov/faq/pregtest.htm

Treenie - I've not tried the digital - but I assume its either p or n and nowhere in the middle - whilst bf can be very faint (or is that feint?). Anyway, fingers crossed for you and BB.

Kensgirl - great photos!

I tell you I go home early with out my laptop and I miss all of this!

Nomore that is great news about the appointment. Very chuffed to hear that you are finally getting some positive news - you deserve it after all this time.

BB you are such a doll - thanks for saying such nice things. I've just had a look at your picture and you look stunning. Chuck out the ruddy scales and look in the mirror!
And I'm so optimistic for you. You know what I think is the best sign - the back ache. Do you usually get that? I've been getting really bad lower back pain on an off so have done loads of googling and apparently it's a really good sign. And this is the time when you would be getting it after implantation.
And don't worry about looking silly if your af appears - we are not here to judge or scoff - we are here to support and encourage. And for what it's worth - with what the nurse said and all the symptoms - I think you are on to a winner!

Kensgirl - you to look so lovely in your wedding dress. How's things with you? What CD are you on.

MT - I think I may finally have passed your 'off the wine' test! Really didn't feel like it last night! Hurrah!

Toomuch - how you doing? No testing yet I hope?!

OK can I give you my update. Now on CD36 - never had a cycle this long even when coming off the pill.
Had funny twinges and back ache last night so though af was on her merry way but nothing. So Treenie's lovely dh says do a test this morning - and not just any old test - a clear blue digital test! And nothing, nada siltch! A BFN! Now that must be at least dpo 13 today - even if I give myself a day or so leeway.
What the f**k is going on I ask you?!
Have the veiny boobs and everything. Is it poss that it would show up by now or am I kidding myself?

Nomore where can I find the stats on when to test? Off to trawl google now.

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Nomore - that's great news - I had a friend on Clomid who conceived first try! Also it really helps with timing as you know exactly when you are going to ovulate

Kensgirl - love your wedding dress!!

Treenie - any news? I'm guessing you must have tested again this morning..

Fi - where are you..

Hello everyone else!

Every one getting ready to test, make sure that you've got a spare one - you might need to take a 2nd opinion - when it comes to it, you sometimes don't believe the first fairy!

Nomore - I had a friend that was sucessful with clomid, so here's hoping.

Good luck to the girlies nearly ready to test!
Heres hoping we have a sudden rush of bfps's.

Helo there, Pinkmartini! Hlad your hols were good. I have read of lots of people who bring home a souvenir baby, hope you do!

Hmmm, weight? I weigh 8 stone 12 now, on my wedding day last year, it was 8 stone 7, so would like to get back to that, some picies on profile if anyone is interested. I've been trying to be good, as I.m only 5 foot 3, so can't carry any extra flabbage. I'm cutting down on the treats, and tring smaller portions, and putting a bit of extra oomph into general moving around. we're going on holiday in August, so I have a red poka dot bikini that I neeeeeed to look passable in..

Everyone OK?

I'm 1" shorter than BB and weigh more than toomuch. BMI of 27.9 (was weighed at fertility centre today) but I was weighed with my clothes on! I'm nearer 25.5 BMI (still slightly in the overweight category though ) (but 1/2 stone of that is my boobs )

Appointment went well - they've given me clomid to make sure I ov and they want us back in 6 months if nothing happens before then (he said 80% of couples get pg on clomid in our circumstances, so fingers crossed)

BB - fingers crossed - it sounds very hopeful
Treenie - "Reckon I am dpo 13 today. Think I want to wait a few more days and if AF doesn't arrive I'll test - don't want to see any BFN unecessarily - one way or the other IYSWIM?
Toomuch if I was you I'd wait till you are dpo 14 cause it avoids dissapointment. I know a lot of people say they get BFP four days before af is due but a lot also don't." Glad the fairy has taught you something. Look at those stats for DPO and likelyhood of BFP if you need the incentive not to test.
Fingers crossed for those of you nearing testing - we haven't had a ttc no1 BFP since bella
Hi pink martini - welcome back

I'm taller than Treenie but 11stone5

BB - hope your signs turn out to be good news!

Seen as though this is not RL I will let you in on a closely guarded secret, Im 10st 5 and 5ft 6inchs but Im in proportion so people do not realise how heavy I am but my BMI is ok according to the doctor.

My mum lost a stone in her 1st weeks of pregnancy because she was so ill.

I'm with you there - was whale like! Although I did manage to walk the dog up to the day before ds was born...

I'm also 5'8, but havn't seen 9st in a long time , and not even remotely trying to get there! Would be happy at a bit above that as look fine at that weight and just about achievable - when they see me people don't realise how much I weigh!

Yes, I bet Treenie is one of those who has a lovely tight bump I will end up huge!

Treenie you are lovely and tall aswell. I bet you are a fab clothes horse.

I may opt for the sickness if it saves me putting on tons of weight.

Even though the mind is cruel I'll still keep my fingers crossed

BB - yes, re Treenie, doesn't it make you

Re sickness - my morning sickness didn't arrive until about 9.30am and I would quite often go to bed still feeling sick, so not a good name. And eating was the only way not to throw-up (I opted for eating 1st time round - if there is #2 I might opt for throwing up so that I don't put so much weight on and hopefully don't have such a whopper (ds=10/5 1wk early)) And yes, things do taste different/strange

Fingers crossed!

You could always try the red wine test (if you like red wine) - only use a small glass, then if it doesn't work, you won't feel guilty that you're drinking too much - but don't count on it working for you either. You need DH also to like red wine and be a monitor, otherwise you might just have got a crappy bottle of wine!

Hello ladies

I am desperately trying not to get my hopes up.

But I am suffering from the following;

1. funny metal taste in my mouth, making things taste a little strange.
2. the only time I don't feel sick is when Im eating 3.not sleeping through the night
3. Really sore bust - (but that is normal in the 2ww)
4. I've been sick last night but again this can be part of my PMT
5. Bad back ache

Im only on CD25 so I am convinced this is all in my head but you can't help but hope. I am sure women do not get poorly this early. Also you are supposed to be ill in the morning and I am ill at night. No implantation signs, did have a drop in temperature but I do not trust that. Im going to look very silly when I end up in the TTC August thread

Not done a test yet, Im very proud of myself but the mind is an awful thing it can play terrible tricks.

I should join you in the diet area, although Im hoping my new organic lifestyle will help with that. Treenie you must be very slim.

I know what you mean.. but just want to know now [stamps feet]

Treenie - afaikr the most memorable symptom was passing glasses of red wine over to dh - which surprised him hugely. I think I also started to feel a bit tired. Don't remember any other tingles etc that early, but that's not to say that other people don't get them. Then, of course, nausea can make an appearance fairly early - it was that continuing that made me worry so much last autumn as despite mc kept on feeling sick - which is why I put the weight back on that I had managed to shift in August...

Tests do seem to be fairly sensitive now - when I tested after mc in autumn (Dr recommended) I was able to report back that if I was wanting to be pregnant, there was not enough blue there to suggest that I was, but if I wanted not to be pregnant (ie if molar pg not coming back which was what I was hoping) there was too much blue. Blood test at hospital confirmed this - HCG levels still too high to be normal, but were less than would be at 14dpo, and cheap supermarket test picked this up.

(I found, during successful pg, that oatcakes were one of the things that stopped me throwing up best. Journeys were the worst as I felt nauseous before I started then got car sick on top - basically had to eat something all the time at an early stage - put 1st on in first 10 weeks! - again, something that I hope won't affect you so much, but something more to look forward to!)

Reckon I am dpo 13 today. Think I want to wait a few more days and if AF doesn't arrive I'll test - don't want to see any BFN unecessarily - one way or the other IYSWIM?

Toomuch if I was you I'd wait till you are dpo 14 cause it avoids dissapointment. I know a lot of people say they get BFP four days before af is due but a lot also don't.
And you don't know where your cycle is either cause you're just off the pill.
The only reason I have a rough idea is because I came off the pill last year last year for two months and the same earlier this year - so I'm hoping it follows the same pattern. Have never reached CD36 yet as far as I can remember.

This month is really a waiting game for us both.
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Hi Treenie! How many days DPO are you? I think that you probably can't rely on anything you're feeling now as the mind can trick you into lots of things.. it's just a case of waiting for AF or a BFP - which tests have you been using? I've just been online to buy some first response for the weekend.. not sure when I can use them as not sure when AF is due but reckon I'll test on Saturday morning just to see..I'll be DPO 10-11 ish by then.

OK have totally given up on working for the day because all I can think about is 'is there a bun in this oven?!'

Where are the relaxed women of the world who just fall pregnant and don't really think about it?! I'd like to know their secret!

Mistlethrush having been a preggie before can you tell me anything about surging feelings in boobs?! Shooting pains towards my nipples but not painful if that makes sense?! Also have twinges under my armpit!
Help!

I don't really know what to add about the weight thing without sounding like one of those skinny irratating people - which I'm prob doing right now.
All I can say is that in a place like MN where you can't see people's bods, faces, choice of clothes etc you have to form opinions on the basis of what they say and do. If only RL was the same. And based on that I'd say you all seem pretty gorgeous to me!
That sounds weird but you know what I mean!

Someone talk to me please cause I'm going mad with all this wondering!

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Toomuch - I'm sure that I went off red wine by that time, even though no tests would have picked it up. But that's just me, so probably no good to go on - you might not like red wine anyway!

And yes, we do do lots of things with ds. Holidays are different though - we used to do lots of walking and, for obvious reasons now that he's walking himself, this is reduced - but we definitely take him out and want him to go to appropriate concerts or sit in on some rehearsals for concerts so that he gets used to this (part of our life, so hopefully it will become part of his too and the earlier he gets used to it the better (he slept through Belshazzar's Feast at 5wks - choir of 400, large orchestra, 2 brass bands)). Potty training does put a bit of a restriction on activities at the moment as we can only go to places where we are prepared to get the potty out and sit him on it - when he needs it we've not yet got time to find a secluded place!

PinkM - I started diet last week - do you want to join me? I have same problem as you - height and build means that people don't think I'm as heavy as I am. However, do have problem losing - had to go way below recommended points on WW to lose despite doing lots of exercise. Not Fair

Treenie - if only! Despite BF ds, weight didn't just 'drop off' like it should have done -and despite ds (2.3) being quite active (he now walks 2 - 3 miles regularly, with breaks and duck feeding etc) most of this is at too slow a pace (for me) to be proper 'exercise'.

Treenie - careful the fairy will come and get you - it's so hard to wait isn't it! I feel completely normal no twinges - no cravings - no funny taste in my mouth - so reckon it hasn't worked this month.. I'm going out with friends on Saturday so really want to know either way before then so that they won't guess if I don't drink - but I'll only be CD 27 then.. about 9-10 dpo - so don't think I'm going to know..

PM - what CD are you on we sound like quite a similar cycle this month..

Toomuch! Hello my lovely! Glad to have you back. Do not worry about the weight thing at all. Focus on getting preggers and then all the running around after the baby will help you lose it no probs.
Also you can diet at any point in your life but this is not the time to start messing around with weight as it can effect your hormones. Am sure you are gorgeous anyway so don't worry about it. I've seen women drop from size 24 to size 10 cause they put their mind to it - so you'll be able to get to a szie 12 no probs I'm sure.

I did bleed on the first day but not till 8pm so am classing that as CD1 which means this is CD 35 - never remember having a cycle this long before even when I came off the pill so am really hoping! Might do a sneaky wee test tomorrow! Argh the waiting is driving me mad!
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Mistlethrush - that sounds about right with WW on the booze front LOL. I did it up to my wedding and it did work but inevitably when I stopped following it all piled on again.

Treenie - you're absolutely in the right frame for 5'8 - I'm, er three stone more than you - so def on the overweight end of the scale - the height is a bit of a curse, as I think I can get away with things more than I actually can which is why the scales are so depressing at the moment.

I do know GI and probably do need to get on board with that really. Have had a salad for lunch (but did have mayo with it - oops)

I should probably cut down on coffee too - not good for TTC I don't think and all my weight is now round my middle which is meant to be stress related - coffee doesn't help
with that.

I read somewhere that women think about their body/weight as often as men think about sex. Sounds about right in my case.

Sorry, I'm bleating.

Right enough bleating about weight, back to TTC stuff

Treenie that all sounds good - fingers crossed. I never know that about when your cycle day is when you come on late in the day (I use Persona so I count from the day on that) My cycle's not super regular though, so it's hard to tell. (i've been trying to monitor but never note whether it's that day or the night before etc so I'm a bit of a mess)

Toomuch - just like me lots of holiday sex and relaxing - I hope it's done the trick!
Reckon I'm due this Friday 13th (which hardly bodes well!!) so here's hoping.

Treenie - How are you doing? Sounds like you're in the hardest part of the 2ww - I think you have to actually bleed for it to be CD1! Fingers crossed you've fallen this month - but if not it's only your first go - we'll go through it all again together next month

PM - how was the hols? Mine was fab - so relaxing to spend 2 weeks with DH without work stresses - hoping that all the relaxed holiday bding has worked for us both

MT - laughing at your potty shenanigans - can't wait for little moments like that! Sounds like you still have an active social life with DS. I've seen a few friends have babies recently and they have almost become different people - no longer doing the things that made them them IYSWIM - like going on holiday to a place they never would have before kids just cos the kids might like it.. very strange..

Ready - sorry to hear you've lost your optimism - have a bit of my sunshine from spain bright feeling - I know it will only last a couple more days so grab it while you can

BB - Hi - how's it going? Hope this will be lucky number 9 month for you!

Nomore - any news yet from your appointment?

Fi - where are you - any news?? Are those boys keeping you too busy..

Gilly - only 3 weeks left in the glorious north! Are you nearly sorted for moving yet? Hope it's lucky number 9 month for you too

Everyone else - I need to read the rest of the thread to catch up properly..

Q - I'm fairly heavy at the moment - a size 14-16 so really want to lose weight but focusing more on being healthy and eating lots of good things like veg and fish.. Although I'm a bit worried that I'm never going to be a size 12 again if I go into having kids as a size 14-16