TTC after pregnancy loss - thread 26 - BFPs are coming!

@Laney79 thank you. I agree, I would like to know what is going wrong so it can be fixed. You might still have just caught it either side so fingers crossed for you 🤞

@fnej01 I hope GP can see me first thing tomorrow. I need to know what is going on with my body. Thanks for posting the link, I hppe I won't need it but good to know just in case. Glad you got your reversal and an appointment for January, hope you can get some answers.

The bleeding isn't as heavy now but still definitely there. I just don't understand what's going on. No pain. Will it get worse? My first mc physically was just awful, this is more like a period, heavy, very heavy this morning but has got lighter now. I'm worried the worst is still to come but with it being so early could it just be this? Whatever happens though I'm determined to get on that plane on Saturday. We need this holiday so much, more than ever now.

Thanks for all the replies and kind words ladies...

@InDreamland I don't think your GP will quibble about registering this pregnancy. I didn't have any evidence of MC #2 at 5 weeks and there was no quibble.

@Laney79 I had a long surge before I don't think you pop the egg until the end of the surge so I reckon your timing should be fine. Fx for you.

Ladies trying to get referral to RMC, I literally printed out the information (including the section on how to get referred) at the link below and told my GP that was where I needed to be referred... he sorted it there and then. Just in case it helps someone else.... rmc contacted me with appointment the following day. Appointment not until Jan because they have said body needs to get back to baseline before testing, and needs to recover from 3mc in 6 months

www.tommys.org/our-organisation/our-research/research-miscarriage

@InDreamland well I'll keep hoping on your behalf. See what the doctor says-if there is a problem better to know and then have a chance at fixing it in my opinion.

The clear blue was positive thurs and fri am, didn't do it sat first thing as assumed id have ov'd and surge would be over but then the internet cheapie on sat eve late on was a clear positive too!! CB was negative this morning. Hoping I ov'd late yesterday or first thing Friday as either would give us a shot either from last Saturday arvo dtd or this morning!!!

Hope you have managed to catch it this month!

Sorry posted too soon.

Maybe my brain not working, the CB smiley stayed for 3 days? Or the ic came up + for 3 days?

Ov could've happened any time during those days. If you dtd last Sat successfully unsure if sperm will live that long but if you ov'd lastnight you may just have caught it this morning. Sorry, I'm rubbish at this sort of thing.

@Laney79 I'm not really crampy, just feeling wiped out, really tired. Had some tummy area cramps but just needed a no.2 (sorry if TMI). I'm still having period like bleeding so passing some clots. I hace heard of stories like your mum's. I worked with someone who bless her had absolutely no idea she was pregnant, then she started getting some tummy aches, went to her doc and found out she was due in a couple of months! She was a big girl and didn't notice any weight gain. Those stories are rare though. I'm realistic, after the last 5 years and mc in July I know I'm just going to be one of the extremely unlucky ones who will just never be able to have a baby. I know I should be grateful for everything I have but we want a family so much. We have a bedroom ready for our little one........... before we got married we already had that room earmarked for our first baby's room and the other one (currently DHs home gym) as baby no.2s bedroom and painted them in a neutral baby colour. Just feel so stupid for thinking it would work out just like that.

Deffo a line there @hayleyfx -congrats and fingers crossed for a sticky healthy little bean for you lovely.

@InDreamland are you getting any pains at all? Or crampy like AF? I don't want to give you false hope but some ladies do seem to have quite a lot of blood loss and still have a healthy baby (my mom told me she didn't even realise she was pregnant with my brother and his stillborn twin as she bled like a period for the first 6 months! - it was late 60's so no scans etc). If it is the worst news absolutely they should register it as an MC-don't take no for an answer. I really feel for you.

@strawberrye is your GP good? If so I'd ask for their advice re: fertility/rmc Referral. Its so so tough. It certainly feels so unfair that we struggle so much where others simply seem to blink and have trouble free pregnancies. If chromosomes are a worry and there's family history is it worth discussing genetic testing with your gp? See what's the best way to get that?

@Lilimum5 re:opks mine were blazing positive whilst I still had hcg in the system but as soon as I had a neg preg test they were negative. I guess it would be poss for you to ov 9 days after MC - it may be your body kicking back after Mc. Are you using IC? Or clear blue?

@fnej01 glad you have the wedding plans to distract you, bet that's really good fun!

As for me-well this ovulation lark post MMC #2 is rather mystifying. I got a clearblue smiley on Thursday with fmu (although as you know lines didn't look as they would on an IC) did an IC with second wee of the day and it was getting there but not what I'd call positive, the one at 1800 on thurs was positive or very close to. So fri am I test with fmu and both clearblue and ic are positive...so thinking deffo Ovulate Friday eve. Ic Tests stay positive though right through Friday and still positive sat eve! Now gone negative 3pm Sunday.

So any guesses when I may actually have ovulated? Never had a lh surge/positive opks last 3 days before? We dtd fri eve/sat am but OH didn't finish but did successfully dtd first thing today. Other than that it was last Saturday for last successful dtd. So thinking prob slim chance for conception...thoughts? I'm confuddled!! Xxx

@Yukka thank you. Not sure not how I can ever think positive. I thought 5 years of being unable to get pregnant taut sucked and I struggled to deal with that then I did fall pregnant but the excitement was so short. This is mc #2 in the space of 4 months. Feel like such a failure.

Saw a woman yesterday pushing the hugest buggy, she had quads!!!!!! 4 perfect sleeping little girls. She also had an older little girl too. I thought, how come she gets 5 babies? I'd be happy right now to just have one at home with me

@strawberrye sometimes de-stressing can take a while to show positively on you physically. Give it a few more months, try not to put pressure on yourself - I know easier said than done. Keeping my fingers crossed for you 🤞 thanks for the hugs x

@Lilimum5 I'm no expert but I don't think it's impossible to ov straight after mc. Think mc's do crazy stuff to our bodies. That said I think I was advised by others on MN that ov tests may not necessarily be accurate at detecting ov straight after mc. Sorry, not very helpful. Only way to be sure is to test with hpt again maybe in 5 days time to see if hcg is decreasing, of not then see you're GP as you will want to rule out retained products.

@hayleyfx thanks lovely. Your FRER looks very + to me. Fingers crossed it's a new pregnancy!

@imdreamland they should count it just on your test so deff see the doc to get it on your record x

@straweberrye the only reason I asked About heartbeat is my gp/consultant said that mc after heartbeat is less common and usually can be attributed to some cause if testing can take place, either chromosome of the foetus or something with mum or Dad, so before that sadly is very common but reassuringly only 1% of women have a third loss. Try and stay positive and @indreamland too.

@lilimum5 after my last mc I ovulated about day 9 and completely missed it until af arrived, I couldn’t believe it. Test again in a few more days xx

@hayleyfx really hopeful for you the line looks good xx

This is a test I just done a few mins ago, on about a 45 minute hold 😂 it’s quite a strong line so I don’t think leftover hcg but still feeling very nervous and unsure... got a digi, clearblue plus and some cheapies to keep testing haha!! £30 gone 🤦‍♀️

@KnitKitty thank you! It’s definitely much darker than my test from 3 weeks ago, that one didn’t even show up on camera it was so faint! Still feeling very nervous though, will test again tomorrow and then book dr appointment! 🤞

@Yukka thank you hun, fingers crossed! I hope you’re doing well x

@ClumsyKitten @Mistymeow @fnej01 thanks ladies! I’ll keep you all updated, in the meantime I’m trying to stay as sane as possible 🙄😂

@InDreamland I’m so sorry 😔 it’s just so unfair, internal scans don’t cause MC and neither is it anything you have done. You’ve done everything right. If this is another loss (still got fingers crossed for you) then I’m so sorry, this will happen for you one day. Sending you hugs and strength, keep us updated and stay strong ❤️

@strawberrye I’m so sorry you’re struggling. I don’t really have any advice but just want to say I know how you’re feeling and so does everyone here. We’re all here for you and praying that you get your rainbow, as well as every single other person here! Sending hugs

Hello ladies I'm going to ask some advice because I'm puddled, I warn you this will be a long post.

So my bleeding post mmc bleeding has become spotting in the last 3 days. So I read on line that pregnancy can be detected on ovulation sticks and I just wanted to see how I was getting on. So I did one 3 days ago and every day since. But they just got more positive, so freaking out thinking after everything I've already been through the last 12 days I still have retained products. I made DH go and buy me some hpts to check for sure but they are so faint I would class them nothing more than evap lines. Is it really possible to ovulate just 9 days after mc or is my body totally mucked up and out of it.
I'm so worried that it is going to take forever to get back to ttc again.

@Yukka I was 5 weeks with loss #1 in late January. Loss #2 is weird - essentially I was on clearblue trial and had started my period and had tested negative, but because on the trial I had to test a few days into my period which then came back as positive. I had blood hCG done at GP which came back within the range for 5 weeks. But I wouldn't have known about loss #2 if I was not on clearblue trial as I would have just assumed it was a normal period. I've never had a ultrasound which shows a heartbeat, which sometimes means I wonder whether all of this is in my head...

I feel like I have lost all hope now to be honest. I was really hoping I would fall pregnant in the last few months - in August I changed jobs from a very stressful job which involved a lot of irregular shifts, and I was on thyroxine to help my thyroid. However I have been taken off thyroxine now as even a tiny dose was too much for me, and the change to a less stressful job, and lots of minibreaks/a holiday clearly hasn't done the trick. I'm wondering whether I have something chromosomal as my mum had a MC before having me, and my gran MC twins. Also I am the only female to be born on that side of the family for several generations so can't help thinking something must be wrong with one of the X chromosomes?

@InDreamland thank you for the hugs, sending some hugs back. I think they should count this pregnancy on the basis of your positive tests.

@fnej01 pregnancy announcements are hard to cope with. Glad you've got some nice distractions. Hope when you get your test results you'll get some answers x

@strawberrye I'm sorry you're struggling. It's such a shit thing for all of us to go through. I don't really have much advice as I just don't know what I'm doing with this TTC/pregnancy game - otherwise I'd have a successful pregnancy. Just sending you hugs

@fnej01 @mistymeow @strawberrye thanks ladies. With this amount of bleeding I'm 99.9% certain I've lost this one too. Will see what GP days tomorrow, unless I end up in pain and down A&E before the morning. Just hope GP receptionist doesn't try fob me off when I call up for an appointment.

I definitely need this pregnancy registered. Will they register as a definite pregnancy and mc? So early on? Will they take my + tests as enough confirmation because I've not registered with midwife or gone to EPU (which isn't open weekends)?

@straweberrye hey! Nice to hear from you. Passing through the cycles and milestones is hard. I know what you mean about being pregnant again. My third mc due date was 8th December and I totally thought I’d be first trimester down by then. Clearly not although I’ve got over it somehow at the moment it doesn’t phase me....I guess it’s just hope, keeps us going.

Re referral, my gp counted our first two losses as mc (5wks) rather than cp as conception did occur but chromosome or implantation failure meant not viable. So I think they would refer you to rmc first for baseline bloods. How early were your mcs Hun? Did you ever have an early scan for heartbeat check? Xxx

Sorry that should read a couple of months away from my first MC anniversary

Hello ladies just checking in briefly as I haven't been on for a while. Thank you @Yukka for asking after me, I am still really struggling. On cycle 8 post 2nd MC and I don't think this cycle is going to be successful, so I am fully expecting to start cycle 9 post 2nd MC sometime this week. I can't believe we're only a couple of months away from my first MC and I'm still not pregnant. I really think something is wrong. We are going to the GP this week to ask for referral, although as another poster (sorry can't remember who it was) was saying I'm not sure if RMC or infertility would be best as I have had no viable pregnancy after 14 months of trying, two very early losses in the first 6 months, and nothing since.

@InDreamland so sorry to hear your news and praying that you are one of the ladies who bleed during pregnancy and that everything is OK

@hayleyfx that’s exciting! Really hope all is well this month. Keep us updated, we need good news.

@indreamland I’m so sorry sweetheart. Agree with the others, the ultrasound could not have caused a miscarriage. Good that you are calling the gp tomorrow. I do still think it’s a positive sign that you have conceived again, just so sad that this little one didn’t work out x

How is everyone doing? I’m confused by my chart this month (I wasn’t going to chart anymore but my cycles have been a bit all over the place and I need to see when I o). FF can’t decide if I’m 7dpo or 9dpo. My temped dipped today to what is usually the temp I get for when af arrives so I’m not too hopeful.

@indreamland so very sorry - make sure you look after yourself. Feel assured that the scan didn't cause the miscarriage. x

@hayleyfx - tentative congratulations - got everything crossed for you

@boboelephant - lovely to see you back on here again

Much love to the rest of your out there especially the newbies. I am so far behind I can't catch up so have only read the last page or so.

I'm still trucking along - awaiting first period after 3 MC. Had a very good friend who had her own fertility struggles announce she was pregnant the other day. So very pleased for her as she has had a tough journey, however, her due date is right inbetween the two for my most recent miscarriages so has definitely required some deep breathing, and there have been a few tears. I'm still feeling quite liberated by not being able to try though until my results are through. Wedding planning and work are a massive distraction.
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Thanks ladies. When I woke up this morning I was bleeding heavily. No way can baby survive that, I'm going to have to call my GP tomorrow morning. Just feel numb. What is wrong with me? 5 years trying to get pregnant, then I manage to fall twice in 7 months but can't keep either of them.

@InDreamland I'm so sorry hun. This truly sucks. No, internal scans cannot cause miscarriage. They do them routinely on women in early stages of pregnancy which they wouldn't do if that were a risk; it was just bad timing. I feel hopeful that you will fall pregnant again with a sticky bean. I expect you're feeling horrible and hopeless though, so let us do the hoping for you for now until you feel stronger again. Huge hugs xxx

@indreamland sorry you’re going through this. Scans can’t cause mc even if internal. You’re not an idiot for getting your hopes up, it’s impossible not to when the lines appear. Try not to loose hope the stats are still in your favour. It’s hard I know xx