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TTC after recurrent miscarriage - thread 3

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Miami81 · 14/08/2018 08:50

Hi all. Sorry I hadn't realised other thread was full.
Have tagged who I can remember.
Please add people in.
@AnneLovesGilbert @Labmum @Hopefulforourrainbow @zarala

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Hopefulforourrainbow · 15/11/2018 09:22

@Rivera1985 you could look in to this

www.luisazissman.co.uk/?p=647

Hopefulforourrainbow · 15/11/2018 08:29

Hi @Rivera1985. Sorry you've found yourself here and welcome. Have you been seen by a fertility clinic? I'm not sure what to advise for endometriosis. Maybe one of the others can help. A lot of us are on aspirin and there's no harm in giving it a go. Good luck and I hope you get the answers you're looking for xx

Rivera1985 · 14/11/2018 20:36

Hi all I'm new here.
First off congrats to those whom are pregnant and good luck to those ttc

I've been trying for a little over 5 years. Had a miscarriage June 2017 at 16 weeks. Worst feeling in the world. Been ttc since. No luck yet.
AF is due on the 20th. With my first before the mc, I had no symptoms whatsoever except for a missed period. All i can do each month is pray..
Any advice you ladies can offer?
I do have endometriosis and was told that if I were to get pregnant, I'm to take baby aspirin?

Hopefulforourrainbow · 14/11/2018 20:30

Thank you xxx

Laney79 · 14/11/2018 20:02

Great news @CurlyTwirlyTwos so pleased!

Keeping everything crossed for you @Hopefulforourrainbow xxx

norbert23 · 14/11/2018 19:41

Amazing news @CurlyTwirlyTwos! Smile
good luck tomorrow @Hopefulforourrainbow hopefully it will be more lovely news xxx

Hopefulforourrainbow · 14/11/2018 19:27

Wow that is amazing news @CurlyTwirlyTwos. I'm so happy for you! Your consultant sounds lovely too. Thank you. I'll let you know how it goes! I'm so nervous but keep trying to tell myself it'll be ok.

CurlyTwirlyTwos · 14/11/2018 18:36

Hey @hopefulforarainbow – I’ve that hangover feeling for a while now, but being nauseous is a good sign! I’ve been eating so much crap (mainly processed white carbs) I feel rubbish, I don’t know if it’s the crap food or the pregnancy!

I’ve had the strangest day today. Last week I got a text from the hospital to confirm an appointment for this afternoon which I confirmed. I assumed it was for DD as she is the process of removing adenoids. So today myself and DH booked time off work to attend, we turned up at ENT only to be told we don’t have an appointment. It turns out it was for me, my first RMC consultation! We legged it over to gyne and unexpectedly met my rmc consultant.

I’ve had NO letter or referral confirmation in the post, I’d assumed it was lost!

The consultant was lovely, and wasn't annoyed I was pregnant again. As he expected a much longer appointment he was happy to chat in in detail about my EPAU notes. He guesses (without testing me) that I fall into a category of women who have a very receptive womb lining which will accept any old egg in any old condition. Most eggs each month he pointed out are rubbish and shouldn’t be implanted (then gave IVF stats). Where most women will reject the egg or not implant at all, my body holds onto it longer than ‘normal’. He says it’s very unusual to have become pregnant so many times in 12 months – but he sees it occasionally and quoted a few studies (more for DH’s benefit, as he has a medical background). I was on the pill for decades until I conceived DD on the 1st go, and back on pill - pretty quickly after bf, so I haven't really experienced the process of ttcing until this year.

I’d semi-guessed this diagnosis myself through my own googling and by the bbc article I posted last week, but you never know! He doesn’t think it’s my age (which was my concern) and that at 35 I shouldn’t worry. He says it’s normally 40+ when it gets much more difficult to conceive.

He then gave me a scan and to find everything well - and he thinks it’s a perfectly normal pregnancy! He discharged me from his clinic and is happy for me to under normal antenatal care without any extra monitoring/folic acid/aspirin etc. DH reckons he was happy because he didn’t have to deal with new case!

The scan confirmed that I’m over 8 weeks from the measurements (should 7+3) and that the odds are in my favour! Consultant reckons it would very unusual to miscarry from this point.

It is a huge relief to hear this from a specialist, and yes – I’m still in the first trimester but things look ‘normal’. I’m feeling excited for the first time since this whole ttcing process started last Dec!

I’ve cancelled tomorrows private scan, as I don’t feel there is a need to go twice in 2 days. I’ll lose my deposit but still save £60 which is better than nothing. I’m feeling very calm yet positive.

I’ll be thinking of you (with all my heart) at 11.15 tomorrow hopeful I really think from your symptoms you will be fine. Please check in and let us know.

An unexpected but very good day, I feel emotionally exhausted!

Hopefulforourrainbow · 14/11/2018 14:56

Hi how's everyone doing? How are you feeling about tomorrow @CurlyTwirlyTwos? What time is your scan? Mine is 11.15. Feeling quite nervous about it though just want to know now. I felt horrendous earlier today. So tired, nauseous. Like I had a really bad hangover!

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SerenaOverjoyed · 13/11/2018 18:23

Woah, thanks for the brilliant advice Laney, hopefulforarainbow, CurlyTwirlyTwos and moonpeace. You've all helped me get through the first anxious day.

The number on my letter is for gynae reception. I called three times and it just rang out Hmm I'll be a bit more pushy tomorrow. I think knowing a scan is booked for 6-7wks would really help.

I'm sticking with the asprin and ordering that folic acid, thanks moonpeace.

I do feel better for not bleeding yet. It's so fucked up Blush

Hopefulforourrainbow · 13/11/2018 18:14

Was it rmc that recommended that dose to you @moonpeace? Midwife prescribed 5mg for me at booking appointment.

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CurlyTwirlyTwos · 13/11/2018 16:21

Hi @SerenaOverjoyed, I remember your username too welcome back to the thread.

I would exactly as Laney suggests, technically you are already under their care. Secretaries hold all the power in my experience (and always seem to finish at 3pm Hmm ) Get on that phone, and don’t take no from anyone. The one thing I’ve learned in this process is that you can’t be shy or too patient or (I’m normally go with the flow or ‘trust the system’) which has cost me time.

I find my local EPAU much more helpful than the GP or midwives, but again that is different for each area, but you still will be too early for a scan at 4 weeks.

Good luck - and let us know how it goes xx

Hopefulforourrainbow · 13/11/2018 09:33

Hi @Serena. Welcome back. Congratulations on your bfp. I found my first appointment at the rmc a waste of time and the professor I saw made it clear we were wasting his time. I complained and we were offered an appointment with someone else. He said more often than not there are no reasons for mc and that he couldn't see why we wouldn't go on to have a healthy baby. He suggested aspirin and cyclogest just so it felt like we are doing something. If i were you, I would contact rmc and see if you can get cyclogest and contact epu to see if they'll book You in for an early scan. That's what I did and because of my history they booked me in. I have another scan on Thursday from saying it was too long to wait between 7 and 12 weeks. Good luck!

Laney79 · 13/11/2018 09:11

@SerenaOverjoyed big hug coming your way.. so, with the original appt for the rmc was there a consultant named on the letter? If so try ringing the consultants secretary. Explain what's happened and that you really need urgent advice from the specialist and if there's anyway they could give you a ring you'd really appreciate it (this is how I've ended up being tested by a consultant despite not having the required three mc's in a row-my gp suggested it. I was very upset on the phone but I got a call back the same day from the consultant) effectively you'd already be "under" the care of that consultant you see so depending on what they are like they may do it.

Alternatively I'd go with whichever has been more helpful in the past re: GP v EPU.

If it helps my consultant has said even without seeing any of my blood results if I get a BFP I should take baby aspirin. Seems to be a general consensus that it's unlikely to do harm but seems to help in some cases.

Keeping everything crossed for you xxx

SerenaOverjoyed · 13/11/2018 08:45

Can I rejoin for a hand hold? I've been lurking for months.

I've had 4 early mcs all before 5wks. I got a surprise BFP yesterday, I have pcos so my cycles are haywire and I routinely test for reassurance. I think I conceived about 12 days ago, we haven't been 'trying' but not actively preventing either. CB test says 1-2 wks.

I'm absolutely terrified. I feel certain that in the next few days I'll start bleeding and I have no idea how I'll cope.

I was referred to RMC in June and seen for bloods in August. I had my consultant appointment booked for 10 days ago, but a few days before I got a letter recheduling it by a couple of days. I went along and say a gynae registrar, who said that not enough bloods had been requested initially. I was given fifteen new blood forms for day 21 of my cycle, a month away! After thI burst into tears and gave the receptionistse I would be re-booked for the RMC. I gave the receptionist a handwritten 2-side complaint and I've heard nothing. This shocks me, I'm an nhs nurse and we shit ourselves when we get a handwritten complaint.

I'm not sure what to do now. I know I should be asking for early scans, but I'm not sure if this is my GP or EPU? Is it worth asking for two sets of bloods to confirm hcg is rising? I've started myself on 75mg Asprin. I don't feel great doing this but it's not my fault I haven't seen the RMC consultant.

Lauraliverpool · 12/11/2018 20:50

@Laney79 I'm hoping so, but somehow don't think she will stay away. X

Laney79 · 12/11/2018 20:32

Glad the spotting has stopped @Hopefulforourrainbow -fingers crossed for your scan

Glad the counselling is helping @CurlyTwirlyTwos I find mine useful if only for the release. Nice to be able to offload freely without worrying about upsetting anyone.

@Lauraliverpool fingers crossed AF stays away

@moonpeace Hoping it all goes ok for you.

I'm in the tww. Finally got positive opks end of last week after worrying my body wasn't kicking back in after my second MMC losing bow. Was a bit odd though. Had clearblue positive with fmu thurs morning (although the lines didn't look as they would on an IC) did an IC with second wee of the day and it was getting there but not what I'd call positive, the ic one at 1800 on thurs was positive or very close to. So fri I test with fmu and both clearblue and ic are positive...so thinking deffo Ovulate Friday eve. Ic Tests stay positive though, right through Friday and still positive sat eve! Finally went negative 3pm Sunday.

So no idea when I actually ovulated - Never had a lh surge/positive opks last 3 days before. We dtd fri eve/sat am but OH didn't finish, however did successfully dtd first thing Sunday. Other than that it was the Saturday before for last successful dtd. So thinking prob slim chance for conception (one too early the other too late) but who knows.

Two weeks tomorrow till I see the consultant and get my blood results. X

Lauraliverpool · 12/11/2018 20:23

@CurlyTwirlyTwos it's a total head wrecker tracking ovulation, I'm thinking I'm either not ovulating or if I am it's a few days after I get the peak and we only DTD three days this cycle. X

CurlyTwirlyTwos · 12/11/2018 19:54

Ahhh @Lauraliverpool - waiting it out! I never got the hang of opks or monitoring in general, I never seem to get a positive! I’m now convinced that I actually ovulate much earlier that ‘normal’ and missed ov for months. We didn’t dtd in FW this time (I planned to avoid pregnancy until after Christmas) yet this is the one which is sticking.

@moonpeace I’ve told my sister, mum, two close friends and my counsellor about this preg! I have not told my work, and don’t intend to unless things go wrong.

I’ve kept the all the previous pregnancies ‘quiet’ but the strain on myself and DH has been immense. I know I have support now if things don’t work out. I shared the last early mc in August with all of the above and told them I’ve been struggling with rmc. Everyone was absolutely mortified that we’ve been struggling alone. It’s been a relief to admit it to be honest, and some the weight lifted. I feel better too - I don’t have to pretend that all is well!

Social occasions: I’m lucky I already a DD so I’m saying I can’t find a babysitter, and DH is out. I’m praying that I have a successful 12 week scan before the work Christmas party, and if I don’t, I’m going to be honest about.

Hopefulforourrainbow · 12/11/2018 19:09

I've told everyone I would go to if it went wrong. Close friends, my mum, my auntie and my brother. My boss also knows. It's much more supportive when some people know.

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Lauraliverpool · 12/11/2018 18:10

@CurlyTwirlyTwos I think AF is starting, brown spotting today with the backache and dull cramps, was holding out hope that it might have been implantation, will see what it's like tomorrow, according to fertility monitor AF due in two days and then was going to test to see if I was pregnant. Spoke to hubby last night and said if I'm not pregnant then use the monitor again and he said as soon as I get the first high reading we'll get going again and I said each day and also the peak reading and the day afterwards, he said he read as soon as you get the high to start then and he said that he's at fault we missed a few of the high days and we did it too late, I thought we might have stood a chance this month as we dtd both peak days and the day afterwards, thinking about it for a good few days after my boobs were still quite sore so im wondering if I ovulated round then, I'm thinking of going to get the blood test done for ovulation, last cycle was 25 days and I don't know what day i should go on. I'm really hoping I'll be joining you soon with my bfp, I'm scared it's not going to happen again. Sorry for the long reply. Hope you're ok. Xx

Hopefulforourrainbow · 12/11/2018 18:00

I'm hoping I'll measure further ahead on Thursday! That happened to my friend. She had an early scan then measured a full week ahead at her next scan! Her baby boy arrived a few weeks ago. Poor hubby is on his way home and I'm desperate to sleep. Sex has been a no no since bfp. I think he's struggling with that but I'm so terrified of bleeding! Anyone else the same?

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