TTC after recurrent miscarriage - thread 3

Ladies, can I ask some advice? First mic ended up being dealt with by medical management...basically took the pessaries Friday, starting a medium level of cramping and passing clots for the next 48 hours but then had a sudden onset very very painful 2-3 hours losing lots of blood and clots and then it was pretty much over (well I bled for weeks afterwards but it was mostly spotting)

This time it's happening naturally, been bleeding but not heavy for over a week but have had three, hour plus episodes of extreme pain and passing clots/blood...it happened tues/weds/thurs.. but then nothing yesterday or so far today bar a bit of bleeding/clotty spotting when I go to the loo. Could that be it? Or should I expect another trains worth of pain to hit me? I'm just afraid to go out because when it does hit it's agony and I need to be near the loo.

Got a scan on weds to see what's happened/happening but I'm going snooker loopy here, and being cooped up just allows my mind to keep going over and over why it's happened twice, which is not good. Xxx

@hopeful @moonpeace I took a tincture so it was dropperfuls rather than capsules. It says it's about 350-440 mg per dose and to take 2 to 3 doses per day. It doesn't say to stop taking if pregnant on the bottle. My acupuncturist and midwife knew I was taking it so I believe it was fine.

Can I ask on thyroid...my GP tested mine after first MMC...said my results were good on the "lower side of normal which is what we want" so I've assumed that's ok-but now worried that means they are heading for the too low category?

On tracking-I use Internet cheapies 2/3 times a day from about cd8, then around cd11/12 I use the clear blue digital ones first thing in the morning to confirm. I normally get a strong line day 12/13 in the afternoon/eve then positive CB the following morning.

I work shifts so impossible for me!

That's good. Glad your thyroid level has improved and good you're getting a referral. No harm in trying in the mean time. Especially when you've already had bloods done. How do you track ovulation? I usually use opk but have never tried temping.

@TaylsN did it not say on the bottle to stop if pregnant? Do you know how much is in each capsule?

@hopeful @moonpeace I took vitex from after my mmc until about 8 weeks pregnant with our current bean. I'd read something saying to take it through the first trimester or you could miscarry. I got a stomach flu around 8 weeks and couldn't stomach any supplements and just didn't resume. I'm currently almost 12 weeks and had a good scan today where everything looked fine and hb was good so fingers crossed.
My MIL asked when we'd be in the "safe zone". I was like, never?? When the baby is born healthy and alive? She meant well but after loss we know the other shoe can drop at any time.

I took it all month. From CD1 to bfp. 2nd time I think I took it after bfp but took 1 tablet a day instead of 2. A friend blames it for her miscarriage. My friend with pcos had been trying for years, took it from cd1 to bfp and is the one who is due in November. It's hard to know what to do for the best.

Hope we're both lucky!

I have heard of agnus cactus actually.

I usually just take Folic Acid so trying the conception vits for a change.

Oh I forgot about the chasteberry fruit too (also known as Agnus castus or vitex). I took that for a month before 1st bfp and a month before 2nd bfp. A friend with pcos took it for a month before her bfp too. She's due in November.

Oh they look good. I've used the conceive plus lube before. Vitamin wise I've tried pregnacare and seven seas trying for a baby.

Yea he wasn't that great. Another GP i saw there was fab but she was a locum.

Ah thats horrible too, I'm so sorry :(

Ah that looks interesting, I've ordered these which are coming today and i hope they help.

www.amazon.co.uk/Conceive-Plus-Womens-Fertility-Support/dp/B0734SDKV5/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?keywords=conceive+plus+vitamins&tag=mumsnetforum-21&ie=UTF8&qid=1538047777&sr=8-1

Sounds like you've had an awful time of it. Your GP sounds terrible. My EPU made referral to rmc for me. I'm surprised yours won't.
I had mmc at 13 weeks in August last year. Baby stopped growing at 5+6. Mc again in the January at around 6 weeks (blame that on shingles) and then again in March though they think that one was ectopic. Was going to have methotrexate but it had been reabsorbed and hcg came down by itself. All tests have come back fine. We've taken a break and this is our first month trying again. I really hope we get a bfp next week! If not I'm going to try www.luisazissman.co.uk/?p=647

@hopefulforourrainbow

Yes. In a nutshell my story is this;

March 2013 - MMC - 12 week scan - ERPC
Nov 2013 - MC at 6 weeks
March 2014 - MC at 6 weeks

Referred to RMC. Tests all clear. Suggested cyclogest and asprin. Asprin all the time until 34 weeks and cyclogest from ovulation to BFN or 16 weeks of pregnancy - which was then increased to 24 when i was pregnant with DS.

June 2014 - Feb 2015 - Pregnant with DS - all fine, great pregnancy - well looked after by EPU and Shared care.

October 2015 - MMC at 9 weeks - heart stopped at 8 weeks. Naturally MC so couldn't karotype. Was on treatment.

Referred to RMC again by EPU this time, consultant didn't seem too fussed, said it was most likely a pregnancy that wouldn't have worked anyway regardless of treatment. We decided to have a break.

Fast forward to this year. Fell pregnant August, MC last weekend at 6 weeks exactly. EPU were great but cant refer me back to RMC, has to be GP.

I've now moved and have a new GP. When I saw him to request referral to EPU at 4 weeks pregnant (as i'd been offered before) he said that it didn't sound like i had been through recurrent miscarriage (!!!!) so I am not holding out much hope for him.

So that's me. What a sorry little tale eh.

I'm so lucky to have my DS. I am starting to think he is an actual miracle.

Have you had testing already @white?

I wont go too mad, we were so lucky to fall so quickly this time (first month which I wasnt expecting) I am fully expecting a few months of nothing, anything else is a bonus.

I am just so sick of feeling sad and i figured that worrying etc wont change what is going to happen (whether good or bad) so I may as well be positive?

I was on one x 400mg per day cyclogest - i am wondering whether next time i should increase it. I dont know if the GP will refer me back to the RMC again - I've seen the consultant twice now but 3+ years ago. And my new GP wasnt particularly understanding so I'm not holding my breath.

Thank you x

Thank you x

Sending ALL good thoughts for you. Your holiday will have been so good for you both inside and out.

Wow that's a lot! It seems to be doing the trick though! So happy for you ❤

16 today. Genuinely can’t really believe it.

I was told to take it till 12 weeks, then 20, now around 26 though I’m not sure why. I’m on 5 400mg pessaries a day. I had a bleed and he upped it after that.

All good though.

I guess it's a perk of being on holiday 😉 AF due next Thurs. How many weeks are you now? Consultant today said just to take progesterone until 12 weeks.