Over 40 ttc - August baby dust for me!

@CritterTamer ⭐️⭐️🤞🤞🤞🤞

I’m loving the PMA going on here today - it’s just what I need whilst sitting hear quietly panicking about egg collection tomorrow and feeling so uncomfortable with huge painful swollen ovaries and sick to my stomach from the HCG trigger shot - hoping it’s all worth it! Thanks so much to all those who have wished me well for tomorrow - it means a lot 😊 just really hoping to get a couple of good quality embryos this time to take advantage of this beautiful lining I’ve managed to conjure up this month so i can tell Dr. Doom where he can shove his negative comments 😁

Thank you Chatbash, that has made me smile... god I need a glass of wine! xxx

Ladies, I needed that! Here I am on AF due day, no period yet and a bfn! Feeling deflated etc....
Thanks little and chat and feel a bit refocused and I'm going to listen to the podcast

I fully agree with the sex comment, can't remember who mentions it, but my friend conceived on day 5. As we do get older they ping earlier.. if you can just get at it as often as you can, don't restrict it to just ovulating time.. it takes the magic out of sex side of your relationship.. ideally yes you want his boys at peak condition but you know what Mother Nature doesn't play that way.. and if you take that " got to dtd at the RIGHT time" you put added stress on your body and head and relationship.. it's flipping stressful enough..
I'm 45... I've had 3 miscarriages in my 40's but I've conceived so I know it can happen.. I've got a 14 year ago gap between me and my brother died y mean I love him amy less than my sister ( 3 years between us) and I am blessed to have kids but an age gap in 10 years and they love each other to bits.. if you get pregnant please try to stuff what others think.. is anyone judging rachel Weiss or Louise delamere.. whilst your still ovulating your still in the game.. and a generation of grand parents Pre birth control can be proof of this.. so get bonking ladies.. and yes I do appreciate some hubbies struggle with this side.. mine suffered dreadfully last year because I was stessy about times... an epic meltdown about turning 45 and other emotional upheaval made me re think my attitude.. and within the month I had fallen preg.. although not meant to happen at that time.. sadly, it gave me hope.. the medical industry just want to scare us because they won't get funding or make money from us..
hope I haven't sounded too soap boxy but please try and enjoy the contraceptive free, slightly spontaneous baby making... xxxx

I agree !! Keep positive ladies. Remember - as @Cleo (@Orchid?) - one of you wise ladies..said .. ages ago, it only takes ONE GOLDEN EGG!!
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Snowie - what does it mean by micronized dhea? Is there a difference with standard?

Mimosa - I am liking your positivity, well done!

@MATTSMAMA - hun, you'll love the podcast above. I thought of you. She talks about women having babies into their 50s and even 60s:-)

Right ladies, I've been thinking, we need to improve our attitude to conception over 40 (me included). We are never going to fall pregnant if we continually tell ourselves we are old, our eggs are old and our fertility is falling off a cliff! I've been doing a lot of reading and thinking during my TTC hiatus and really believe that we need to tell ourselves it's possible in order for our bodies to manifest a pregnancy (look at Faith - she did this!). Check out this podcast which is a famous women's doctor (Christine Northrup) in America talking about the negative effect society has on our fertility (terms like 'geriatric pregnancy' if you're over 35 - *k off! and the fertility industry in general sucking in its breath at the mere mention of ttc over 40).
We need to get this stuff to bounce off us and believe more!!

Here's the link;
www.fertilityhour.com/episodes/christiane-northrup-32/

Thoughts?

Chin up, @Letsdothis42. Things always seem worse when you’re physically under the weather.

I’m wondering if Zita West means trying every single day from cd6 - cd14, or is every other day the idea? I’ve heard some conflicting ideas on this one. The every other day camp seem to be suggesting that sperm needs time to mature.

Faith, thanks yes I'm tempted by dhea - although heard it can cause testosterone symptoms? But at the same time also heard its been called the elixar of youth...
Anyone else had any experience with it? Good or bad

Snowie I heard about the genetic testing for IVF, I think its expensive but our age it could be worth it and make all the difference for a successful cycle. Man, I wish I was a millionaire....

Critter good luck, do let us know how you get on!

Orchid - hopefully having a new job will be the perfect time for nature to throw a spanner in the works and you'll get pregnant. It's the kind of thing that nature does!! I need to find something that would be completely incompatable with pregnancy/a new baby so it plays with me too. Getting fed up with waiting for nature to help me out now, I'm the same as you orchid - 18 months trying and only one pregnancy that amounted to nothing. Time to get technical.

Good luck @Critter, I really hope this works out for you. I am definitely interested to hear how you get on. x
I am feeling really stressy, so I’m pretty much writing off this cycle even though I’m still days away from ovulation.... I wish I knew how to calm down and relax

Good luck @ Critter, totally keeping everything crossed for you. Yes @Orchid, you are right, it varies from individual, the same friend had a DD in 2015 aged 41 from a successful IVF cycle (with ARGC) and I also have a friend who conceived with her own eggs through IVF aged 45.5 yrs.
My friend who is to undergo her cycle in Greece, says they do different things there, a hysteroscopy as standard and they ask for menstral blood to test for infections (apparently many women aren’t getting pregnant from things like non-symptomatic chlamydia) She is off to Serum next week to kick it all off ... I’ll keep you posted. XxxX

Just popping in to start a group hug

I'm in the tww but I think it'd be a miracle if we were successful this month roll on, October cycle! I've given us until Easter to get somewhere before we start thinking about next steps. I'll be 42 next June so....!

xxx

Hi ladies, just catching up with all the news here - sorry to hear that so many are having a tough time at the moment.
Just an update from me - just done my trigger shot for EC on Thursday morning. The stimulation has gone well - better than last time with 12 follicles this time and 5 over 20mm today which is great. Some of the others are not likely to get big enough by Thursday but it’s still a better result than last time as they look to be better sizes and took an extra day or two to get there which is better 😊
Best of all my lining has made it to a whopping 12mm which is absolutely amazing for me and almost 3mm better than last time - I think i have the acupuncture and yoga to thank for that and it makes me more hopeful as I’m sure I have a problem with implantation.

Anyway, sorry for rambling on - I hope you guys are all doing well and I’ll update after egg collection on Thursday for those who are interested.

@taxgirl1. Ive heard genetically testing embryos significantly increases chances for ivf but you need to have enough embryos to test which isn't always a lot in over 40s.

Yes i also have to pounce on DH it seems. Bless him how he manages to deal with it. But he does get a bit resentful at times.

@cleo I use micronised Dhea from Macphearson labs i believe.

I take it throughout cycle but no idea if that is correct.

Hello, can I join? I am 39 yrs. DH and I have two children, DS 3.9 yrs and DD 18 months. We have been discussing vasectomy vs one more DC for several months and been using condoms- not very consistently- because I am sick of taking the pill. Anyway, we have decided we want to try for one more baby and then DH will have a vasectomy.

We were lucky with DS and DD. DS took 4 months and DD was first month. I am not expecting it to be as easy this time. I feel much older and more tired after the last 4 years.

So we are not doing anything different, no tracking or counting anything, just having sex and seeing what happens.

@Snowie3 yes I find it tough to always instigate the BDing. I think my OH finds it really off-putting that It's premeditated. Maybe feels slightly used - makes a point of saying it. Difficult to be spontaneous especially when he tends to go to bed much later than I do. Means I end up running on empty waiting for him to come to bed so I can pounce...

I've read the stats about over 40s and IVF. I wonder if you had the embryos genetically tested then surely there must be a much greater chance of success if you know the embryo is chromosomally normal. But I'm pretty sure it's very expensive.

@cleo it’s supposed to improve egg quality so I believe.. and DHEA is something that ensures this, but depleted in women naturally with age.. x

@cleo in respect of the DHEA - I used it every day of my cycle and bought it online from BIOVEA, I still have about a 1/3 of a tin left if you want to take it off my hands...
No idea if it did the trick, but I thought it was worth a try.. x

@orchid - I agree, she’s not the absolute authority on egg quality over 40, but during the chat I had with her, she was brutally honest in respect of the fact that it pains her seeing lots of older women pin their hopes on IVF, for the odds to be low to start, and for it to fail. I also think she has a moral conscience about the industry and it’s money-making side.
I’ve a friend who is 44.5 yrs she has had 4 rounds of IVF (icsi) through ARGC and she is now going for her 5th round, they have given her a 7% chance of success using her eggs, rising to 40% if she uses donor eggs. She is going to try both - and is now going to Serum in Greece as it’s 50% cheaper ...

sorry should add I mean my Hormonal Profile tests!