Over 40 ttc - summer baby dust for me!

FAith - I suspect I’ll ge joining you in no mans land soon. I’m on an anovulatory cycle so guessing logically that I might get a 6 week cycle in total. Do you think you ovulated?

I’m sorry ladies I can’t contribute to the chat about miscarriage and killer cells. Have no knowledge and as far as I know never had a miscarriage (apart from the one I had years ago).

Cleo - thanks so much for your kind words. Can I ask, did you have any warm moments/hot flashes? They aren’t very strong but there.

Has anyone else experienced the hot moments?!

Hobbes39 yes that’s exactly how I felt. I was 34 when I had my first mc - it was so traumatic couldn’t even think of trying for ages. Then I was 37 when I had dc1. After the next mc I asked for tests and the nhs were pretty useless really. They were more or less saying it was age but I knew deep down it was something else. Mr Shehata basically said that all the blood tests the nhs had done were a waste of time. I did meet one female gynaecologist who was helpful in that she said aspirin for some reason helped women to actually get pregnant and stay pregnant. They didn’t know the exact reasons for this but indeed aspirin was part of the prescription list of meds from Mr Shehata. Prof Quenby is really good too I have heard. I hope you get some answers soon but I have to say that in a lot of cases there is an underlying reason. Yes of course some miscarriages are sadly a one off and natures way of
preventing something that wasn’t meant to be. For me however I knew having at least 12 mc’s (inc the chemicals as Mr Shehata said they are mc no matter how early) I just knew it had to be something else.

Good luck - this thread is brilliant for support. I don’t continually post but I read everything xx

Hi @MATTSMAMMA - yes, killer cells is something I'm now wondering about... I have contacted dr Quenby to see about having tests and have finally been referred for the standard repeat mc tests at my clinic now I've had 3 'proper' miscarriages - they don't count chemicals...
I feel frustrated that until now, and even now, the presumption is that it's just age - I know it might well be, but I was only 38 when we first started trying for #2, so feel a bit like I've been written off too early.

Morning Ladies - welcome CLAIRE and HOBBES

Just out of curiosity - all the ladies who have suffered repeated m/c including chemicals, I was wondering if any had undergone investigations regarding killer cells/immune issues?

I had my first mc at 14 weeks I then went on to have a healthy pregnancy. After DC1 my third pregnancy ended in mc at 13/14 weeks. I have hypothyroidism as well. I then went on to have quite a few chemicals. I seemed to get pregnant easily but couldn’t hang on to them.
To cut a long story short I went to see Mr Shehata at the Miscarriage Clinic in London who after tests told me I had high killer cells and would need to take steroids amongst other things (vit d, omega oil, aspirin and folic acid and pre-natal vitamin and progesterone ). I also had thyroid antibodies which were high. After taking his advice and taking the meds I fell pregnant on first try and it was a successful pregnancy at age 42.

I saw him a couple of years ago and the killer cells had abated somewhat (they can fluctuate) hence some pregnancies will be successful if you get pregnant when they are low. However pregnancy itself can raise the killer cells hence repeated chemicals if you get pregnant repeatedly one after the other

It just seems to me that some of you
May possibly fall into this bracket? it just seems to resonate with me when I read about so many chemical pregnancies etc and some of your experiences. I’ve been in this thread many years now and have
mentioned this before but obviously his will be quite a while ago now
I myself feel that my chemicals lately are
more due to my age unfortunately as I’m probably the oldest on here and I’ve not taken the steroids as I should be (which is at ovulation and to stop if no BFP and continue if you get a BFP). I’m hoping to take any steroids if I get the BFP and commence them then. Part of me does wonder if this is the reason for my chemicals but I did have a mc on the steroids and I was told that any mc that might be due to chromosomal issues etc obviously cannot be prevented with the steroids. Anyway I’m sorry for such a long post but I just wanted to put it out there that immune issues are a big factor with a lot of women without them being aware and thats with IVF too obviously xx

Just checking in. Welcome to Claire and Hobbes and hope you find help and solace in this lovely community as I have. Critter / excited for you - I hope (in the nicest way) you will be leaving this board soon to join the pregnant ladies!! X
I’m still in no man’s land. Today I’m CD 45. This is the longest I’ve ever gone without a period (Claire I’m almost 44) and now 15 days late. I haven’t taken a test as I know it’s futile and likely I’m just now in the peri stage. It’s like all period type feelings have left the building, strangest feeling ever. On a positive note - as I don’t have any schedule to work to, I’m actually having a bit of a holiday from trying (obviously not ideal but there’s less obsessing in relation to dates)
I ordered the Ovu-Sense monitor and it arrived the next day. I hope to start using it this weekend - one of the things I’m kind of looking forward to is the accuracy in terms of it telling me I’m not actually ovulation - if this is the case then at least I have something concrete to take to the GP rather than all the guesswork - will keep you ladies posted. Happy Thursday everyone. Fingers crossed for you Critter. XxxX

Shiny - sorry to hear about your bad day, sounds rubbish. Do they have a plan for you to help with the lining? I think there are quite a few 'home remedies' to help, if you google. I think things like raspberry leaf tea and pineapple? I've not looked into it too much as in the past I've almost been to far the other way, but I have seen it discussed during my many researches. Could be worth looking in to.

Dickybow - I have heard of the fertility cleanse, but never considered doing it as it seemed like hard work! Is it a bit of a mission?

Chat - with the eating of warm things - does that count pre ov? Just wondering as not much need for a warm womb when there's nothing going on there so I gauged on icecream.

Mimosa - don't loose hope. It's not the beginning of the end, it's just a bad cycle. I totally understand how frustrating and upsetting it is as I've been there. I lost hope, it was so distressing and I thought that was it for me, but things DID get back on track for me. You just need to get through this. Keep some positivity, take the right suppliments, be patient (bloody impossible) and you'll come out the other side. But you have my full sympathy on this as it's flipping horrible.
Would you consider going to the gp? There may be something they can do to move things along a little bit. Or give advice

Oh and seven seas pre conception before ov and pregnacare after ov

Welcome Claire and Hobbes!
Claire, I would take a a pregnancy test, that should give you some answers.
Hobbes, sorry you have had such a hard time. Sadly I can relate to the miscarriage, particularly the one where you saw the heartbeat as I had the same. Unfortunately the baby would have stopped growing veey soon after that scan and I did not find out until 4 weeks later. It's so disheartening as we get so hopeful after seeing that heartbeat. But try to keep hope, it can still happen and it can still be successful.

When I had my day 3 tests it was just FSH and LH, not E2. I've no idea why they don't test for oestrogen, but I do know that in my area it's always bare minimum for fertility on the NHS as we were one of the first places to have the funds cut.
As for suppliments, I take royal jelly and wheatgrass (to lower fsh), ubiquinol (just upped dose to 200), EPO, B complex after ov. I have also purchsed, but not used yet, vitex and progesterone cream.

Critter - amazing photos. Got everything crossed for you.

Dickybow - can you please explain fertility cleanse and what you’re doing?

Welcome Claire and Hobbes. Hope you find support here.

I’m so fed up. Hot flashes are back and no ovulation on cd 23/24. I think this is the beginning of the end for me:( I can’t even try to conceive like this. I think if I’m honest things have been haywire for ages now. Early ovulation and changing cycles. I’m trying Agnus Castus but if I’ve no eggs left what use is it? Sorry to moan ladies, just so lost.

Welcome Clairexx1 and Hobbes39 and so sorry for you rough journeys.. I only take Superdrug pre natel vits and omega 3,6,9 but yes a few ladies do take quite a wide verity.. try to cook everything from scratch and am not eating cold stuff or drinking cold stuff.. which is a struggle in this weather but can see the principle behind it.. (keeping a warm body ) am very lucky that in my ripe old age still ov, lots of ewcm and regular periods.. just last 2 little beans didn't stick but am still trying to stay positive.. v hard at times but this group is a godsend.. xx

Thanks for the pic Critter... its absolutely amazing. Wishing you lots and lots of luck xxx

Welcome claire and hobbes!

Has anybody done a fertility cleanse? I'm currently doing one as I think my hormones are all out of whack after that ridiculously heavy period. I don't think it's the maca that did it, I think it's the L-Arginine. I've since discovered women take it for irregular/missing periods and it increases blood flow to the uterus. That's definitely something I don't need! You can't ttc while doing one so I'm taking this month out. If nothing else I think it will help me mentally get into the place where I believe that my body is capable of sustaining a healthy pregnancy.

Amazing pic Critter, thanks for sharing!

Welcome new ladies! Hobbes, sorry you've had such a rough time. Wish you all lots of luck xxx

Welcome Claire and Hobbes, I feel an updated list coming on.

Claire, I would say test and if it's negative it was probably late AF. If positive you'll probably need a scan to confirm a pregnancy as hormones can take a while to get back to normal.

Hobbes, what a difficult time you've had; so sorry to hear of your losses.

I'm taking ubiquinol, B6, folic acid and a multivitamin. Other ladies on here have much more comprehensive regimes.

Re the oestrogen testing, seems that sometimes they do it, sometimes they don't, at least where I am. Last time round they did for me, but not this time. I really can't fathom why they wouldn't - GP puts "fertility" on the request form, surely that includes oestrogen every time. Very odd.

Thanks ladies x

CRITTER - wow - how amazing those piccies are x

CLEO - the exact same thing happened to me. Neighbour got pregnant at exactly same time as me but her pregnancy was successful. She now has an 18 month old and whilst I’m delighted for her it’s like a permanent reminder of yet another m/c so I really feel for you

SHINY - I’m not very knowledgeable re; Clomid - I hope you get answers soon. Sorry you’ve had a crappy day x

Hi, can I join please? I've been on the 'infertility' IVF boards for a while sadly...
I'm 41, we have an almost 5yr old DS and have 'unexplained secondary infertility' after ttc #2 for the last 3.5 years.
I've had all the basic tests back 2.5 years ago and all looked good... but sadly I had an ectopic pregnancy (naturally conceived), then we went on to IVF as we felt we didn't have time to waste and we had a chemical, and now 2 miscarriages (just had ERPC on Monday for the 2nd miscarriage). I think our IVF journey is now over, unless we go for donor eggs, as I don't think I can face going through it all again and having another miscarriage. The most recent one we saw a heartbeat at 7 weeks and so had thought we had finally got there, but didn't grow after that point and heart stopped - mine almost did too.
I'm utterly devastated, but clinging on to the hope that there's no reason we might still manage by ourselves... other than age obviously. So once my cycle comes back after this miscarriage we shall be trying again...
I wanted to ask what supplements you are all on? I took ubiquinol for our last ivf cycle and did feel it helped, but other than that I haven't taken anything expect folic acid.
In terms of tests, I saw some of you say that you weren't tested for oestrogen - this may be obvious to you all already, but when I had the standard tests on day 2-3 my FSH & LH were measured alongside E2 (which is oestrogen) as standard, so I'm really surprised this hasn't been measured for some of you? These were on the NHS and I was told that the FSH has to be read alongside E2 as a high E2 can give a falsely low (or good) FSH...?
Anyway, good luck to you all x

Hi everyone, I’m new here and hope I’m adding this to the right place! I’m 44 🙈 and this month was 12 days late- had all the symptoms, feeling sick, boobs tender, couldn’t face coffee! but I didn’t actually do a test. Then I started to bleed and have bad cramps, these lasted 2 days and stopped today. I’m now left a bit scared and worried. Will doing a test now still show if I had conceived and then mc? Or is there any chance I could still be pg??

Critter that sounds great, keeping everything crossed for you.

I've had a very depressing day. Got blood test results back yesterday but, of course, they didn't test for oestrogen, which, given today's events, would have been very useful. Had a scan today, lining is thin, hence no withdrawal bleed on the provera. They told me to start taking the clomid anyway, which doesn't make any sense to me. Clomid tricks the body into ovulating, it doesn't build up the lining, in fact can do the opposite. They want me to go in for a scan next Friday to check the lining so we'll see then. Bet I'm right though. More to the point, where's my lining? This wasn't a problem last time round.

Ticked off.

Thought.. 🤦‍♀️

CritterTamer congratulations.. rest up and relax..
MATTSMAMMA sperm can last up to 5 days inside you.. so should still be ok.. I though I had already oved but loads of emcm so tww coming up too.. xx

Thats amazing critter! Great picture

Your 3 cycle deal is actually a really good one. Even if 1st round is sucessful its not a bad price for one round (plus would be worth every penny if it works anyway!)
I think a lot of places charge near that for just one round. I was tempted to look into it, but would be more likely with a deal like that, especially to know you have 3 chances must lower the stress factor too. Very excited for your 2ww for you!

Matts, I think over 40's often ov the same day as a +opk, I know I do, going by my temps. If thats the case then you have a good chance.

I found out our new neighbour is pregnant today, gutted as if I had not miscarried we'd have been fairly close in due date. Now I just have to watch her go through it instead

I get really cross with young people for being young and fertile. Thats not good is it

Wow, just amazing!

Hey all

So hubby came to the rescue and I think the photo is attached now - hope you can see it ok - amazing that they are microscopic but look so clear.