Over 40 ttc - summer baby dust for me!

Hello, can I join in? 43, ttc#1. My great grandma had #9 at 49 so fingers crossed.

Interesting info about royal jelly dickybow, I've been taking that a while now with no adverse effects. No idea weather it's helping or for but I guess it'd be the first one I'd drop.
Love that story about your psychic mum!! I love things like that! At least you won't need to bother buying any tests, just wait for the call

Boosey, sorry to hear af got you. I wonder why it came a week early? Are you stressed? Are you sure you ov'd when you thought you did? What is your usual lp?

@Orchid222 - I think it's unlikely that you will ovulate while still bleeding, but not totally impossible if it's old blood as could just be taking it's time to come out. I know from my last (natural) miscarriage I was thrown out by quite a bit - my cycle was about a week longer than usual and my temping didn't show a rise that month, so I suspect I didn't actually ovulate the cycle immediately after miscarriage, which I believe can happen while your body is recovering.
Do you get any other signs of ov? I get EWCM so that helps me to know if it's coming - and I did have some spotting mixed in with that the next but one cycle after my miscarriage but bleeding from period had stopped a few days before. Hopefully you will ov soon, but it could be a bit delayed x

Yes cleozeta, I am sure you are right, that supplements make sense for a specific issue. I’m terrible at self diagnosing tho via google - not sure that’s always helpful!

That is such a strong line! I never get them that strong.

Different work patterns btw

Ohhh sorry @BooseysMom. Another cycle begins. I think you won't mind being pregnant in a heatwave should it happen. You'll be stoked.

I think I'm ovulating because I have an ache in my right side. I don't usually monitor ovulation aches but it would be a couple of days early if it is. Unfortunately DH isn't "available " until Thursday!!!!!

littlemimosa that's where I've got a lot of my info from at first! And how I started popping large amounts of supplements! It's the reading I'm doing a 'cleanse'.

I think I might have not enough progesterone or too much oestrogen. That would explain the stupidly heavy periods. I've suffered this since I was about 30 so it's not an age thing. I had the Mirena but piled on weight so had it removed and accidently got pregnant in 2009 when it was removed.i didn't realise you should abstain a week before removal. I was waiting for my first period after removal and it didn't arrive. My mum is a bit of a psychic and told me she had dreamt I was pregnant. She had no idea I had the Mirena in or had it removed. In fact weeks before I had it removed she kept telling me I was pregnant. But I had the Mirena in so smugly thought haha mum, you are so are so far off the mark! My marriage was in a terrible place so I don't even remember us doing it. Neither did he.

Because she had dreamt I was pregnant when I actually was with my second child (I live 200 miles from her so no way she could have guessed... in fact I had only just done a test and found out when she called me to say this ) my missing period in 2009 prompted me to do a test, even though I thought it was just my cycle trying to get back to normal after removal. I did a test and I was pregnant! Miscarried at 8 weeks.

Aw Booseys I’m so sorry:( I know that feeling only too well.

Cleo - thanks for that. I’m going to give my body a few weeks to see if it can sort itself out with just acupuncture and reflexology (bliss, just love reflexology), minimal supplements and try to relax a little. Then if no joy I’m definitely going to try the soy. It’s sounds like it’d be just what I need.

Dicky - that’s so interesting about royal jelly and l’arginine. I think a lot of these websites and stores are trying to convince us desperate people to buy stuff without us really knowing if it’s right for us or even good for fertility. I often read the website natural fertility.com and they constantly go on about the benefits of Vitex, Maca, Royal jelly, various vitamins & other herbs but all with links to their online store....hmm...

Mellon wrote ..."know what you mean about the ache. I'm knackered a lot of the time. My practical head says stick at one, we are too old. But then my ovaries take over and I get the ache...'
That i am totally feeling Mellon! AF has got me a record 1 week earlier than expected! I was doing my best to not think about it, believing i had another week to wait of my 2ww, but she just crept up on me the sly bitch!!
my dream of an early spring baby for 2019 is now slipping. There's no way i wanted to be heavily preg during a heatwave so i had to conceive this month or next...

Pycnogenol (I've not come across this) is in the chapter as well.

It is in the chapter under 'supplements that may do more harm than good' :
Royal Jelly Royal jelly is a substance secreted by worker bees to provide food for the queen bee. This jelly is thought to contain hormones that make the queen bee extremely fertile and increase her lifespan. Based on this natural role, royal jelly has long been recommended as an alternative medicine in the fertility context. Just like pycnogenol, royal jelly is a mixture of compounds not naturally found in the human body. At the time of writing, no good-quality clinical research supports the use of royal jelly in improving egg quality, and it has been found to occasionally cause life-threatening allergic reactions. These allergic reactions likely occur because royal jelly contains some of the same allergens found in bee venom.2 In addition, because royal jelly contains a mixture of chemicals that act like hormones, it may have unpredictable effects and disrupt natural hormone balance.3 Given the uncertain benefit and side effects, royal jelly cannot be recommended as part of a regime to naturally improve fertility.

L-Arginine is in the chapter too.

Hi all
Hope everyone is doing ok and enjoying this lovely weather 😊 Great test line @Weasledee - go ahead and pounce on DH quick!

Dickybow - what was the problem with royal jelly?

I took them after my anovulatory cycle on days 2-7, I ovulated later than normal by up to a week, but they did get my cycle up and running again as my body had got into a bit of a pickle and didn't know what it was doing. I used them for about 4 cycles and ovulated each time. I would personally use them again if I had ovulation problems

I was about to start evening primrose but I thought I'd better not while I eliminate the L-Arginine... Best to do one thing at a time so I know what's causing what. So now I take folic acid, a multivitamin, vitamin C, maca and ubiquinol. Oh, and calcium and vit D. Still seems a lot !

I agree cleo.
Before my last period I was popping so many supplements that my kids were like . Then I had the worst period I've ever had in my life... blood literally pouring from me. So full of clots. Urrgh. My haemoglobin dropped from 13 to 11 after two days. I then did some Googling and realised people take L-Arginine for missing or scanty periods! Well that was never my problem...theyre usually heavy! So I've knocked the L-Arginine on the head. Then I read bad things about royal jelly (in the book It Starts With The Egg) so I've stopped that too.

That's the strongest Ive seen on here weasel... you'd best get busy!

Weasel - impressive! I'm envious....

Cleo - please could you tell me a bit about your experience with soy isoflavones?

Impressive weasle! Better get cracking

Erm wow super strong ovulation stick!!!

I think some suppliments are really helpful if they relate to a problem you are having and if they are the right thing for you, I think some suppliments can go wrong if they aren't the correct thing for the problem - ie. Attempting to fix what isn't broken. I personally have (so far) found the suppliments I have tried really helpful and have made a difference. My body has been much more 'functional' since using them.
Although I must admit to being wary of trying vitex even though I have purchased some

Ali - yes I meant do you have any symptoms of high oestrogen.

Polly - I’m starting to think the same re supplements. I’ve taken so much this past year or so. I feel jaded by them all now. Yes there is way too much information at our fingertips. It’s not good if you’re a perfectionist control freak like me lol.

Presh - I’ve read (what haven’t I read about?!) that acupuncture, raspberry leaf tea and pomegranates and their juice are good for lining. Also exercise and movement.

Maybe supplements aren't the way to go. Isn't the amount of info out there just overwhelming. I have cut some things - the inositol as pretty sure I didn't ov last month, and that was the only difference. Still doing fish oils and multivits. Been taking maca for ages and thought as it's just a root, it couldn't do much damage. I have no idea tho! And I am mos def not pregnant, so it's obviously not doing what it's meant to.
I do have herbs from my acu lady. Going to give that a few more weeks, then am on hols and I think I'll leave it over the summer. I am 43 in October, think I will start the IVF convo in September...
Alibaba, are you getting your bloods done privately?