Over 40 ttc - summer baby dust for me!

Everything crossed for you critter!! Please let us know how you get on at the weekend!!! And if you want to symptom spot with us, feel free, the wait must be torture but at the same time amazing to have that kind of realistic hope

Oh Critter you're doing so well. You're absolutely right but the waiting must be hideous. I've got everything crossed for you 👍👍👍🤞

Thanks all for your nice thoughts and good wishes 😊 AF still isn’t here so she’s officially 2 days late now.

@Hobbes39 - that’s really interesting, thanks for sharing your experiences. Most of the things I’ve read seem to say that AF was bang on time, or that she was trying to start on time (spotting, brown sludge, etc) and then arrived in full force about 2 days late despite the progesterone support. There are a few people saying that theirs did stay away until after they stopped the progesterone although these mostly seem to be those who were injecting it. I guess everyone responds differently.

@Orchid222 -I don’t really want to test! As long as AF is staying away I can at least enjoy hoping, but seeing a BFN and knowing that I’m going to have to start it all again (and find another £1400 for next round of drugs) is going to be awful.Testing isn’t going to change the outcome so I’d rather just have hope for as long as possible I guess😊

Meant to say DH and DS not DH and DH!!

Good luck Critter. My sis-in-law is expecting her 1st after suffering unexplained infertility for 5 years and she's only 35. IVF worked for them. Just shows it isn't always age that causes it. Keeping everything crossed xx

Welcome Lapsed.
Orchid. . Thanks. .i like being a spring chicken. .just wish i felt that young! ! This week early AF is particularly heavy and i'm really weepy and grouchy. The news is awful the last couple of days with that missing boy in the lake and the poor girl losing her fight with a brain tumour. I just and cried.
Both DH and DH are on the receiving end of this bad mood swing.
Anyway yes Cleo i remember now i had this a few years back and it is stress related. No chance stress being lifted just yet though. How on earth can we try to stay relaxed when our bodies are screaming out at us to ttc every chance we get!!
nor77..thanks for the explanation of Patau syndrome. I like your religion's belief ..it's a comforting way to help you cope with the loss.

That's a good sign @CritterTamer - I had a shortish luteal phase before starting IVF as would always start spotting for the start of my period by 10dpo at latest. When I had fresh IVF transfers with progesterone support (but nothing else) my period came by 10 days post egg collection (so equivalent to 10dpo) both times it wasn't successful (although one was a chemical) the time it didn't come was when I got a BFP - so 🤞. One thing to look out for that IS a def symptom of success is if you get any OHSS symptoms kicking in soon rather than them tailing off. I have my fingers crossed for you - it's a long process but hopefully you'll get past this first hurdle! X

Yes good plan critter

@Weasledee I really cant see AF staying away that long but if she hasn’t shown up at the weekend then I might test - mainly because I won’t be able to face going in to work straight after a BFN so would rather get it over with at the weekend.

ckc45 I already take those and I think they are fine to take. It was more stuff like inositol, which I had self-diagnosed for high LH, then as a PP mentioned, vitex and royal jelly. And sure, it would be great to get advice from a medical professional, but my GP has said now the bloods have come back normal, that there is nothing they can do (and besides, she had no advice anyway), and I can't really afford to go private right now.
Good luck Critter. Keeping everything crossed for you.

Do u think you can last that long?

I have everything crossed for you critter 😘

OTD isn’t until next Wednesday!

Ooooo exciting, so far so good!
When's testing day?

Thanks @Weasledee - that’s kind of you 😊 I’m struggling through the TWW and going slowly crazy. Alternating between bouts of despair when i’m certain it hasnt worked, and bouts of excitement every time I feel a new ‘symptom’!

The good news is that AF will officially be two days late by tomorrow morning and that’s 2 days further than I’ve ever gotten before 😊 I know it’s probably just the progesterone pessaries holding her off but it does feel like a milestones - 2 days ago I was absolutely sure she was on her way but so far so good. There have been some positive signs - lots of twinging and pulling uterus pains over the past 6 days on and off, and yesterday 6 sharp pains in the same spot that felt like I was being stabbed with a knitting needle, plus one wipe of brown CM. Boobs are sore most of the time too, but again I’m on lots of progesterone so that’s to be expected.

I think this TWW is the worst so far purely because the hopes were so much higher to begin with, and the financial pressure resting on it is also on my mind. Anyway, sorry to bore you all - been keeping away from the thread a bit to try to make sure I didn’t drive you all mad with my symptom spotting LOL.
It’s good to see everyone seems to be feeling more positive and lots of ovulating is going on - fingers crossed for summer baby dust for all of us! 🤞

Hey @CritterTamer was just thinking about you, how's it going?

@PollyIndia I think supplements can have value. Especially support supplements like CoQ10, vitamin D (many of us are low), and omega-3 (DHA/EPA). A healthcare professional with experience in recommending supplements can help clear up the confusion.

BooseysMom I hadn't heard of Patau syndrome either until it happened to me, it affects 1 in 5,000 women and there is no known reasoning behind it, it's a rare genetic disorder where there is an extra copy of a chromosome. It's just one of those things that happens (there is a lot of info on NHS site about it) but the risks also increase with age. No cure for it but i'm a firm believer in my faith and I believe that God did the best thing by taking our baby away so baby wouldn't suffer anymore. In our religion we also believe that if a woman loses a baby in pregnancy then when we pass away, the baby is waiting at the gates of heaven to welcome us in. I like to hold onto that thought and know that my little boy is up there being looked after by my relatives and friends who have passed away.

Orchid it's definitely possible to start fw while still bleeding brown. When I had my scan after my mc that said I had a 21mm folicle ready to go, I was at the tail end of the brow. I think it stopped that day, so keep doing the opk's!

Mellon - it's usually the later end of ewcm. I tend to ov a day or 2 after it's dried up.

Welcome lapsed, that's a very positive start!

Boosey - i remember having a few cycles with week early af when I was ttc dd (at 35!) I think it was stress (ttc related) but I guess it could be anything! Bodies are such a mystery.

@mellongoose - it's caused by your estrogen rising which peaks at ov - so it's likely that you ovulate on the last day of it rather than the first - but there's always the issue that it may take time to make its way down from your cervix, so it's not an accurate science. Having done IVF you become very conscious of the EWCM when on stimulation as the stims cause your estrogen to be unusually high and I certainly noticed I had buckets of the stuff! 🙈

I have a question?!

I have been having ewcm since yesterday morning. It normally lasts three days or so (not actually sure how long). At what point is ovulation actually taking place? Would it be yesterday when it started, today or tomorrow?

Thanks

Thank you to Little, Mellon & Cleo for your commiserations.
Mellon: ...you're right, i would def be stoked if it sticks! !
Btw I usually get ov cramps in my right side too. Typically DH not available when you need him!!
Cleo:... Thank you. Well i'm almost always 28 days and sometimes only 1 day earlier or over. I maybe completely mis-timed ov. I never use opks since the last were ones were so unreliable. I've had faint lines but never such a strong line as the photo on here! I've been ill with a cold bug thing but well used to those. Had thyroid and hormone tests done recently. .all normal.
But maybe i'm now starting to go into the dreaded peri-menopause! i mean i am now over 46!!