Over 40 ttc - summer baby dust for me!

Hope you don't mind me gate crashing your thread, but I wanted to tell you my positive story. I had an ovary removed when I was about 35, then had a ruptured ectopic at 38. This required my tube being removed, which was on the opposite side to the ovary that had already gone. After a few months DH and I decided we'd stop contraception and see what happened. I wasn't hopeful. Around my 39th birthday I found out I was pregnant and had my daughter 4 months before my 40th.
I know I was under 40, but with only 1 ovary and tube on opposite sides, my fertility must have already fallen off a cliff- and I became menopausal at 45!
I'm proof that miracles can happen!
Sending baby dust to all xx

Hi @booseysmom! nope i'm in the UK just screwed up sleep patterns! sounds like a lovely morning!

Yes Brown Jam! I did see the other thread with the poster you mentioned, (what is Depo?) mine just seemed to go away after a few swipes, I used a sanitary towel thinking it was the start of AF but it was clean a few hours later when I went to the loo so no idea WTF was going on! I am just holding out hope for results tomorrow, when you had your blood HCg result back did they give you a number? did they ever say afterwards when your pregnancy was confirmed why your HCg was undetectable?

Your final result was amazing and what I am clinging to!

@chatbash72 I didn't know that! but yes you are right infertility strikes lots of different ages when I was younger a friends sister was trying for 7 years, in her mid 20's and after 7 years of heartache and trying she now has 4 DC all naturally conceived!

Greg Wallace and his 32 year old wife have been ttc for 2 years... not just our age group xx

Morning Lets.. I remember you posted v.early previously as you're not in the uk right? Well i thought i'd reply as we're up much too early for a Sunday! DS never usually wakes til gone 7am but today he was bright & early at 6am so we're watching Baby Jake together! DH will be asleep for at least another 3 hours!
That brown jam is strange. Interestingly i was reading on the conception page another lady had taken photos of hers (yeuk ..but she did put warnings in the title!) and she likened it to brown jelly like bleed. It then turned to fresh red but she had just come off the depo. She then had sharp pain. Everyone said it was normal after coming off the depo and just her periods returning. I used to have it but can't recall what it was like when i came off it. All i know is the strange brown "bleed" was exactly what i had for 2 cycles when i didn't know i was preg. I wrote it in my diary at the time. I wrote that it was like a really strange AF. Not heavy enough to wear a tampon and hardly any cramp and it was most def brown. Looking back i can't believe i didn't twig and it was DS all along!

Hi all,

@littlemimosa thank you so so much for your kind offer! the weirdest thing, I was chatting to a friend tonight who had her baby two years ago at 40 (after being diagnosed with endometriosis and having a previous mc at 6 weeks and only ovulating from one ovary and not regularly!) she was asking me how I was getting on as I haven't told any of my RL friends the current AF late but BFN situation until i'm sure what is going on, and she said she had a lots of good books and Inconceivable was one of them!! So Please pass it on to anyone else who wants it!

I also now know what is meant by spotting, so after my little minor heartbreak thinking AF had started two hours after I had my HCg blood test taken at the GP's on Friday, later on that night I was back to having nothing, its like the brown jam had evaporated! so spotting it was then.

Still unsure of what this means, and although I am trying not to think about it, it's all that is on my mind! and I would've loved a glass of wine at friend tonight but refrained!

Hope all are ok, @weasledee, sorry for your BFN, I would also say yes to one more month.

Sorry to be the 'bringer of doom and gloom!' with my crap stats... despite my rather negative post I for one will be continuing to ttc until there are no eggs left in the basket

My IVF Dr suggested I start taking something called OVAMAX, (which is made in the States from what I see online), then return for another round of IVF in 2/3 months. Only problem is I have a real issue swallowing big tablets or even capsules, so no idea how I'm going to overcome that if they arrive and I can't take them... might also take the DHEA I have sitting in the cupboard, still undecided on this.
In the meantime I'll go back to temping and OPKs and keeping my fingers crossed.

For those who asked about my IVF, the first round I had 11 follicles total, ten big enough on EC day, eight eggs, seven fertilised and only three made it to day five and were 'average' quality, however after having all three transferred I ended up with DS. This time around, just over two years later, two follicles (there were another three but were too small to be counted), two eggs, both fertilised and both 'good' quality and put back after day three. However, must not have been good genetically as BFN. Dr said everything else was good, uterus/lining etc, so purely down to genetics of egg.
My AMH is now 2.5, which is about half what it was two years ago too.

Critter, hope the bee stings and your day is a better one today. And I also think your should make a complaint about the Dr you saw, what a complete cockwomble. Someone with that attitude should not be working in that role, my friend had a similar experience at a scan with the nurse, she complained and got an apology. I think they need to realise how their comments are very upsetting and inappropriate.

Mimosa, sounds like a good read and I'm in need of a new book to start reading, thanks for the recommendation.

Sorry for the negative test Weasledee, I would say yes to one more month.

Hope everyone is enjoying the fab weather, I'm into weekend two of DH's family visit and so will mostly be trying to act like the perfect daughter in law and hostess!!

Ladies the frer arrived and it's a big fat negative!!!! Fed up after that super strong ovulation stick.....
One more month?????

Morning ladies..another hot sunny day ..it's like being in the Med every day atm! 😎
Mimosa..i've read that book and it really is an emotional roller coaster. It was made into a film
too i think.
Lets. .. Yes it was an incredible experience! We had had 2 mc's previously and honestly had not a clue i could be preg as when we dtd i was utterly convinced it wasn't ovulating! ! I never bothered with tests and had even given up taking folic as in my mind it just wasn't gonna happen. We were lucky that i had a very low risk abnormality blood test result. I'm back on the folic now though.
Blowing baby dust your way! xx

Ooh that book sounds interesting, I'll have a look on ebay.
Critter I hope you have a better day today

Letsdothis- send me a private message with your address and I’ll post to you this week. I’ve read it nearly in three sittings. It’s very compelling.

Orchid - glad you found it. That’s how I got it on Amazon dead cheap secondhand.

Thanks @critter, yeah I didn't realise bees could live in the ground either, hope you didn't get stung too badly

@orchid thanks I really am clingy to booseys description and her ultimate BFP! hope you're well xx

Good luck Weasle and Letsdothis with your test results this weekend 🤞

I’m still in shock that bees can live in holes in the ground.....

@booseysmom thanks, knowing that you had a great result after what seemed could be peri-menopausal symptoms fills me with the hope I am clinging to your thread and great result with your DS!

@littlemimosa I'm in sounds like a great book!

@chatbash72 that is good to hear!

fingers crossed for all and hoping @critter is feeling better xx

Please DON'T loose faith and hope ladies... 2 dear friends have had 2 babies each since turning 40 and my sis had her first at 41... all naturally..

Evening lovely ladies.
Critter I’m so sorry you had to endure ridiculous insensitive comments from that man. I’m astounded at his behaviour. I can’t wrap my head around the ‘40’ thing either. How can every woman’s fertility suddenly drop off a cliff on one particular birthday?! It’s too convenient a number. Please don’t take his comments to heart. I honestly don’t believe that these people really know. They like their statistics but really how reliable are they?? I’m reading ‘Inconceivable ‘ by Julia Indichova right now. She was 42 and ttc her second child. Her FSH was 42 and despite everything else being totally normal her doctors wrote her off and the IVF clinics would only treat her if she used donor eggs. She was devastated. The book tells of how she went on to conceive naturally and how she had to learn to trust her own body and ignore the doctors and their statistics. We should pass it round between us all. Anyone want it after me?! Message me if so.

I had exactly the same sort of strange "bleed" when i didn't know i was preg with ds. I'm so reluctant to give hope at this stage, Lets, but brown jam is a good description of what i had! It wasn't enough to have to wear a tampon. Sorry tmi here! I was about 10 days late each cycle too. Fingers crossed for you xx

@Critter, I am so so so angry on your behalf, please don't let any of what that t#@t said affect you, we cannot give up hope, it happens and I really want to think it still could. Please if you feel strong enough at some point after you're through the other end with this clinic and your remaining cycles (with a huge fingers crossed BFP!) complain about this man! as for the bee's nest bloody hell!! hope you're okay?

I went for my beta HCg blood test at the GP today, wont get results until Monday as was late in the afternoon, however only a matter of two hours later I went to the loo and noticed blood on the tissue when flushing, wiped again and (sorry TMI) but it's like brown jam.

Why does mother nature like @booseysmom said messing with us like this, I've waited 17 long days on AF arriving and now I have no idea what this is, is it AF coming out all brown because she's been hiding in there and has gone past her best! Got upset for a minute, had a quick cry and now just waiting until results on Monday, but does anyone know what this could be? is it spotting? is it delayed AF...WTF!!!!!

@cleozeta, I'm with you, something good has to come out of all this I have fingers crossed for everyone we NEED some BFP's on this thread, i know it would certainly raise my spirits!

@mellongoose, i know what you mean about DH works hard and is always tired whilst I'm always thinking about ovulation and CM!!

Critter! This is the worse day ever!!! As others have said, go to bed, tomorrow is another day...

And no testing for me as my frers were a no show today, I was tempted to buy more but it's not going to change the outcome.... hopefully they will arrive tomorrow!

I'm with Cleozeta on this one CritterTamer... quick glass of vino ( medicinal of course 😉) and bed.. tomorrow is a new day, sunny weekend..
I love prof Winston, he's very vocal about clinics making money where it may not be necessary..
men are funny things.... stress effects their swimmers too, mine runs his own business too mellongoose and yes you have to pick your time well... my other half can be quite insensitive about this journey... I've had harsh comments that I sometimes I wonder if I will ever let him near me again! But they are crap with emotions and tact..
and biology, still need to remind him you can't conceive just before your af, egg has already left the building.. 🤦‍♀️
Sending big hugs to all 💕💕

Just catching up. This thread is hard to keep up with right now - have never known it busier. First off - Critter major hugs for the pants day; what a knob that consultant was, pisses me off that these clinics make so much money out of ‘hope’ yet some of the twerps that work there can’t seem to remember that part of the mission statement. Could only have come from a bloke. Men in general will never ever understand any of this, even the ones that try - it’s just not in their DNA, which of why we are the chosen ones, like or not, someone somewhere decided we got this - and you know what - we have. Plenty of women been doing this since the dawn of time, I am going with the mantra of Christmas right now “I believe” and not just for me - for all of us. XxxX