Over 40 ttc - summer baby dust for me!

Sorry, just read the first part of your post - I'm sorry you've had such a shit day x

@Chatbash72 - I got mine from amazon - just make sure it's ubiquinol not ubiquinone. It varies which one is best value... I also heard that the stuff labelled 'kaneka' is meant to be the best. I've got 100mg ones, and take 2 a day now.

Letsdothis42 so sorry, but your parents make me smile, hang onto their enthusiasm my parents show little to no Interest in my little ones, didn't with my big ones but my mother is all over my sisters baby like a rash.. breaks me sometimes..
hmmm123 af is shit sorry she arrived for you today too..
I think I did have another m/c walked the school run this afternoon and it nearly finished me off.. was doubled up in tears on my bed with such contraction like pain.. I was having to breathe through them.. hormones out for count have sobbed all day.. will try and pull myself together but am having a crap day..
can you ladies recommend a good make but not ridiculous price of Ubiquinol.. ??? Might give this a go
Congratulations mellongoose xx

Sorry you didn't get what you were hoping for lets. I hate that whole 'normal / satisfactory' thing. It's such a wide range for most tests that it could mean anything. And a lot of results I've had that came back 'normal' were far from it wjen I did my own research using the actual result numbers that I requested from them.

Mimosa that sounds so stressful, glad you are able to talk to someone about it, I'm sure that will help. Fingers crossed your body will sort itself out soon and get you back on track

Ah Lets, i'm so sorry about what the receptionist said. I only wish i could have given you more to go..if i had done my own tests at home then i would have known what was going on sooner. So i'm sorry if i gave you false hope. Maybe still there is hope as i know it can take a while to show on a test.

Chat .. sorry about AF getting you.

Orchid .. I'm about to start my 2ww and i was supposed to dtd last night but i failed miserably. Just too hot and tired.

Mellon. Congratulations on your marriage. Like you we've managed to dtd once 3 days ago before the ewcm and i vowed to dtd every other day. Got crampy pain now and alot of quite runny mucus (sorry tmi!!) so reckon i should have dtd before today and I've missed it now. I get so much mucus for ages i just can never tell when ov is. Feeling very tetchy and tired too but the heat doesn't help.

Chat and Hmmmm - so sorry AF arrived, I have no words other than to say we're all here feeling your pain.

Let's - same to you hun.

Weasel - sorry for BFN too:-( no i've not been for any private tests, only NHS.

Cleo- CD 42 and nothing. The hot flashes eased off a few days ago and I started to feel a few aches in my ovary area so i got a bit excited but now hot flashes are back and nothing again. My plan is to do nothing really! I just cannot face doctors and their negative comments and any sort of treatment right now. I guess my plan is to trust that something will happen and hope that my body will sort itself out. I've been reading loads on the fertileheart website, her book 'inconceivable' and have now ordered her other book 'fertile female'. It's spoken to me a lot and I'm trying some of the visualisations and imagery. I'm fed up of constantly trying new things and hoping they'll work. I'm trying to face up to some fears I've got and some emotional baggage i'm carrying around. I went to a therapist the other day and it felt good to get it all out and we identified some guilt and stuff I've been feeling.

Sorry to waffle on. As you can see i'm doing lots of thinking right now and not much else lol.

Hi All, thank you for all the positive wishes and thoughts, when I woke this morning I had a very light pink/red period, I phone called into the GP this afternoon and got the receptionist, she said the results came back as 'Normal Satisfactory' she was about to hang up and I asked if there was a number associated with the result and she stared reading however the results come in, and said..something along the lines of ...

nada nada nada, blah blah blah Normal Satisfactory, Not Pregnant. Is that okay? to which I just said Okay Thank you and hung up.

Think I will make an appointment with GP for later this week and hopefully ask whats going on. If of course they can tell me. I don't really want to wait much longer and think I'll go down the IVF route asap, but do I need to wait until I get a proper period?

A bit upset and perplexed and my poor mum called as soon as it hit 13.05pm to find out as she had been praying all morning for a positive! I stupidly let slip to my dad last night too as he keep asking why I was feeling unwell and I said I was okay just waiting for results from Dr today! (Grandparent in waiting are more invested and excited to become grandparents than I think I am to have children and thats saying something!)

Just confused confused confused! and

I'm currently in the tww although I'm not holding out much hope as we were barely in the same place at the same time during ovulation!

We dtd a couple of days prior to ewcm then again the day after it had finished. I might be lucky but we've dtd at exactly the right time previously and nothing!!

Our lives are a bit crazy at the moment as well. We got married recently and go on our honeymoon soon. Amongst all that we've got money stresses (don't ask). If I were a viable egg 🥚 I would prefer to stay inside this month

AF is due Friday ish. I'll keep you posted.

I'm out too! Af just arrived .. also away from dh during next months fertile days so looks like it's August for next attempt 😩

@Hobbes39 thank you.. have seen Holland and Barrett do them.. or is online purchase a better way to go?

And @Cleozeta - I would, but it's back and hip and he's in a lot of pain so no chance at the mo...! ☹️

@Chatbash72 - I take 200mg of ubiquinol - I believe it's better than COQ10 as more easily absorbed?

Hobbes, thanks for info on suppliments, I think ubiquinol is the universally advised one for egg health, so I'll keep taking that. Have stopped royal jelly but I don't know if it was helping or not. I wish we had a xray into our bodies to see what the hell was going on, and clearer ideas of whay helps and what doesnt. These things need more research!

Hobbes as for your dh bad back. I'd be telling him to grin and bear it! Ha! There must be ways to dtd where he doesnt need to move his back. Get creative

Weasle I have been considering that too, will be interested answers on this

@Hobbes39 CoQ10 or Ubiquinol?

Morning, AF due tomorrow and negative tests......

So I was wondering if any of you have gone private for initial tests? What can they test for? Also how much did it cost?

Hi everyone hope people had good weekends.?
Sorry your AF arrived @Chatbash72, as you say though, at least it's coming regularly which is a good sign for keeping trying. 
@CritterTamer - so sorry you had such a crappy day last week with the useless consultant and the bees - I hope your weekend improved? I also hope your DH has apologised to you for being so insensitive, it's hard for them too, but it's nothing compared to what we go through. My last BFP (albeit an eventual mc) I was convinced it hadn't worked, so was feeling really negative, so I don't believe negative feelings change the outcome at all.
I think @Cleozeta asked me about supplements and if IVF consultant had advice - tbh the answer is not much - they basically told me that ubiquinol will do no harm, and so they said it's good to take as some evidence it an help (for me, I believe it works as I took it before my 3rd cycle having not done so for the previous 2 and I had my most successful cycle).
DHEA is something to be careful with and is more appropriate to people with low ovarian reserve (shown by low AMH) and so they didn't recommend it for me. Other than that they said a healthy diet and a decent multi- vitamin including Folic Acid.
As far as I know @Chatbash72 Ubiquinol doesn't mess up your cycle - I know some other supplements can tho, so I think that's why they aren't routinely recommended.
AFM - I'm frustrated as my DH has done his back in and therefore is def not up for 'trying' this month... I am not sure if I'm close to ovulating yet or not, but had much in the way of signs and haven't been peeing on sticks as there's not much point if I know we can't do anything about it .
So I need a miracle cure for back pain and some luck! X

Sorry to hear af came chat. It's always the worst day, and so depressing. I really crashed on cd1 this month, cd5 now and trying to feel positive again, but will be on edge now until ov.
My life seems to roll by cycles these days and mood is dependant on which part of the cycle I am in. The 2ww is my happy relaxed time! I guess because at least then I know I have done all I can and there is hope. FP is based on trusting my body to do the right thing and actually ovulate, which is where I worry. I need to start learning to trust it more.
Interesting read about the menopause mimosa, I spent a lot of time reading up on that last year too. How is your cycle goimg now? Any signs or af? Ov? Anything? Have you been to gp for tests or does that worry you? Weirdly my fsh was lower during my crazy cycle than is was 6 months later when everything had straightened out again. I do wonder what it would be now but I'd be too scared to find out.

Af arrived this morning.... well yesterday I wondered around in a blissful state full of loveliness. Today not meant to be. Test was neg but we'll see if another m/c. Pics of my sis in laws non baby shower over social media, am sad not sure if it's because she said she wasn't having one at then to see that she did, which is a bit pants but I have to say I don't think I would have gone.. allowing myself a crap day and then will try desperately to see the positives.. at least af arrived, 2 days late but fairly like clockwork.. my friend says go for blood tests but after hearing all your experiences I'm not sure I have the emotional strength to get kicked in the teeth by damming ignorant medical professionals.. my blissful ignorance I will prefer to have to stay positive, we don't intend to go back to using any form of contraception, so just rolling the dice.
I'm not sure either if I want to take anything else in the vit dept.. can't Ubiquinol mess up your ov?
Good luck to @Letsdothis42.. we've all had a crap cycle this month..
my friend is sending down a book called alternative maternity ( v old) but she found it helpful.. I'll keep you posted.. xx

@cleozeta thanks! I am panicking a bit for tomorrow, and I don't really know why! I am trying to prepare for the worst news which is I'm not pregnant and menopausal!

@booseysmom, thanks! I have been having weird pains and slight pink tissue when I wiped, interesting that the dr's suspected ectopic, i've been thinking the same in my case as one of the possibilities! that you for the rooting-ness, means so much to have that support, you are all so kind!

@willowmumsy, thats one of the happiest success stories, I love happy stories so thanks for sharing!

@chatbash72 ...oooh fingers crossed, implantation bleeding perhaps?

@littlemimosa, I will definitely let you know thoughts, sounds like a very interesting lady! also your googling about menopause very interesting thanks for sharing, I need to lose a bit of weight!

The hot flushes of today =

Ooh Chat I hope this is it for you. Fingers tightly crossed.

Let’s - how strange. It’s a sign! Glad you’re getting a copy of the book. Let me know what you think about it. It’s really got me thinking about some of the emotional garbage I carry around with me. Am going to work on that.

Ladies - I’m googling studies done on what makes women go into menopause earlier than others. I’ve been worrying about only having one ovary but a study done recently says that although they were fully expecting the answer to be yes, losing an ovary does send you into earlier menopause, they actually found it was only one year earlier in women with one ovary. Very pleased to read that!
Also weight and menopause...... I suspected this.... apparently low body weight corresponds to earlier menopause whereas higher bmi corresponds to later menopause. Except in the case of obesity which goes back to a risk for early. It’s down to thinner women having less body fat so they store less oestrogen which sends you into earlier menopause. So interesting and I’m so trying to put a bit on.

And saying all of that the hot flashes are back today

So af is 2 days late, nipples are really sore which they where when I had my m/c in early March... had a bit of pale pink when I wiped early afternoon( so sorry tmi), it was a little darker this eve but nothing major in amount but enough to throw me into a tailspin.. have tested this eve which was a waste of time as have been drinking water like a fish all day.. tum is really bloated and no cramping just aching/pulling... hormones bonkers and crying at odd moments..

Hi Lets ..
Sorry it must've been someone else on here who i spoke at that time of day! You asked. ."when you had your blood HCg result back did they give you a number? did they ever say afterwards when your pregnancy was confirmed why your HCg was undetectable?"
...Sorry Lets, they never said. But tbh i never did my own tests cos i never even realised what was going on! I know it sounds lame! But when i went to the docs and they did the test at the time and sent me to the hosp for a scan. . they suspected ectopic so i was totally stressed and when we got to the scan and found out we were 12 wks gone!! DH went white and i thought he was gonna pass out!! The 1st thing he said was "is there just the one in there? " lol!!
I wish you the best of luck for tomorrow. .i'll be rooting for you xx

Congrats willow! Thats a very hopeful story. I love a happy ending

Lets - good luck with your results tomorrow