The Good, The Bad and The Yams!

@LexieJean also my plan this month we want to do some decorating, what would be the spare room/nursery we have been putting off but now I'm going to make it into a proper spare room xx

@Booksandbaths1 @herewegoagain18 strangely enough I’m very comfortable about being very open about needing fertility treatment, whereas only my immediate family and a couple of friends and colleagues know about my mental illness (major depression), including my boss who is super supportive and an absolute star.

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend, be kind to yourselves xxx

Haha! @books all thoughts of sugar disappeared when I ordered my wine! 😂

@herwegoagain Hi! Sorry to hear about the ivf, FP and baby bomb. I totally know what you mean re the 'infertile' label. I think in some ways I prefer family not knowing. I've onky told a few close friends so far.

@LexieJean yep I'm in the same boat re weight. I've found unsalted nuts a good go to non sugary snack. Though I did have the most divine praline mousse last night, woops 😆 I'm aiming to be gluten free to see if I notice the diff but finding that hard too.

Anyway HAPPY WEEKEND Y'ALL 🌻🍾🍷🍹 (oh shit does wine have sugar 😂)

@orcinusorca Oh I'm sorry hun, I know full well the shock of getting told something medical that you weren't expecting. The good news is there are lots of treatments available and docs aim for singleton babies as much as possible. I agree, let the emotions out and treat yourself. Also maybe try to avoid dr google if poss, it never helps. Hugs x

Sounds rough @herewegoagain I don’t know what’s worse the tip-toeing or the surprise announcements. I guess for others they can’t win because they don’t understand what we’re going through and have no idea how we’ll react. Personally I prefer the sensitivity but I’ve been mostly fortunate in how my friends have all told me theirs news. Just 2 particularly hard situations. Treat yourself over the weekend!

You too @orca Treats all round I say yammers!

@orca I don’t know how that diagnosis will feel but I hope you do feel better knowing there are some treatment options and I know there are other yammers who have the pcos diagnosis. Don’t feel guilty for feeling upset- allow yourself that sadness. None of us went into TTC thinking it was going to be this hard/lonely/sad/heartbreaking/rage inducing and I think my emotions are far worse when I don’t allow myself some time to feel crap and then try to carry on. It is totally ok you feel upset 💐

TGIF indeed. I feel some house decorating purchases or sales purchases coming on to cheer myself up! 😬

They have said my 'ovaries look polycystic as your GP expected'. I didn't know my GP thought that. PCOS is quite common isn't it, I feel like I shouldn't be upset but I am. Need to find my big girl pants. An answer is good. The treatments for PCOS put you at increased chance of multiples according to google. I have twins in the family and one has cerebral palsy, so that's the kind of ring that springs to mind. I guess I should hope I can have successful treatment first and foremost. Feel a bit numb too because I wasn't expecting to be told anything but I'm glad I have been.

Thanks @LexieJean and @herewegoagain18 , sorry to hear you feel so down. I don't imagine they look at you like that at all, but that won't help how you feel which is what counts. Can so relate to your  TGIF, how shall we try and perk ourselves up?!

Hi @Lexie thankyou how are you? Xx

Its family expecting. They got my sis-in-law to tell me as were worried how i would feel. It was made very clear it was because of the failed ivf. The couple are the last people i expected to think like that tbh.

I really do appriciate the sensitivity and consideration for our feelings. I think thats what made it worse though all the tiptoeing round and the extra thought put into it. Its a big difference from how the last pregnancy was announced . Other announcements, even when in the process of refferal were treated normally. Its like its been acknowlegded (finally) that we are struggling. It feels like post ivf its confirmed now that were that couple. The infertiles .

They also apprently were not having any more children and there will be quite a large gap between them. Last pregnancy unplanned . This one planned and conceived first month . Think thats added to the shock/unexpectedness

XxX

OrnicusOrca

Hi OrnicusOrca

Nice to meet you (waves) i joined the thread a couple of weeks back.
I had been a bit delayed coming back to the thread and not been very good keeping up myself.

Im not sure what ultrasound is for but im sure all will go ok tommorow . Good luck XXX

@Chooklass @LookingAtTheStars89 I wasn't joking. Kit kats are nestle product and therefore under the boycott! Dairy free is the way to go too as there's no need to ever give a baby dairy products till they're old enough to make that choice. You can use milk alternatives from 2yrs safely.

Baby bombs suck @herewegoagain I find them a horrible mixture- if they’re friends then I’m happy for them but a bit sad then guilty because I’m sad! 🙄

I’m sure you’ll be fine tomorrow @orca try not to worry. 💐

Hey all. I have been so rubbish not being on here and keeping up with you all.

Well done to everyone who's cut out sugar! How much are we talking, the full lot? I am such a sugar fiend, not sure I could do it. Maybe I'll have to, would be good to know what kind of things you are cutting out. Is it just processed sugar etc.

I have an ultrasound tomorrow and I'm really worried. Not got a GP appt for results until a week on Weds. feel so stressed and anxious. Having an absolutely terrible week at work too. Just want to fast forward

That’s what my acupuncturist says too @chook!

Hi all

I am late coming back to the thread. Been busy but also feeling down about ttc and things and retreated into myself a bit. Have had my first proper baby bomb since the failed ivf cycle To add to that can feel FP on the way had cramping for days now and fed wish it would just get on with it.

@Pinkemi
I had the same issue as you with my employers aside from not being very understanding, i knew the moment i said ivf it would be round the office.

So with great difficulty i got around things by booking holiday in blocks once i had my dates. The nurse will give you a kind of scedule which is your protocol plan and outline of dates. This can change at any point though as it all depends how you respond to the drugs. I was very lucky in that i managed to keep on scedule .

I told them i was having a procedure done that was personal and hinted towards "gyne" issues. My doctor also followed up with a sick note saying "gyne procedure" to protect my privacy.

As for the other question regarding tubes as far as im aware i dont think they can see if blocked via ultrasound. I have had many ultrasounds before and after laps. I had been told some years back mine are clear after having lap although unsure myself how they can know this without doing some sort of specific test for that? Hope i have been some help and sorry i took so long to come back to you. Xx

BGDino
Im sorry to read of your grandfather being so ill and hope he is making a good recovery.

Also sorry about the trouble with your clinic how frustrating. I hope the new scedule works well for you

Your not a bad friend at all for feeling you cant manage to see your friends new baby at the moment. Its just a very hard time for you .

Hello @Lexie ,Limplettice and booksandbaths i hope meeting your friend the other day went well.

Congratulations to Angel and lookingatthestars glad your scan went well .

Hope everyone else is doing ok today
Xxx

Protein will be your best friend @LexieJean ! If I eat plenty protein my sugar cravings are almost non-existent. Worth remembering that low blood sugar is not good either - I find it much easier to avoid sugar if I don't let myself get starving hungry.

Thanks for the tips @pink and @chook I always think I’m healthier than I am because I eat fresh foods like homemade dinners and lots of veggies but am also fond of an afternoon sugary snack and don’t eat much fruit. I don’t need to loose weight so don’t want to cut down my carbs too much but they’re so linked to sugar! I have a fast metabolism so I’m always hungry. I shall do some online research at the weekend. I like the idea of my spots clearing up!

Hope that's a joke @nearlysummer2018 😂

@LookingAtTheStars89 you'll want to stop kit kats ASAP now you're having a baby. Also cut out dairy so the baby is dairy free for the first two years at least x

Hey @LexieJean - don't know how healthy your diet is already - might be easier to start gradually as going cold turkey on sugar is tough for first 3/ 4 days and you're more likely to stick to it if you start slowly, I think.

There are lots of books/ blogs about blood sugar diets, low GI diets and paleo diets which are all low sugar and quite similar. I kind of skip between those diets! My spotty forehead cleared up within a week - that was the most striking benefit for me! Now everyone knows if I've been cheating as the evidence is on my face 😂. I have only lost 8lb in 4 months but BMI back to 25 so I'm not too worried about the weight loss aspect. I'm focussing on balancing my hormones. X

@lexiejean I am trying to follow the principles of Michael Mosely's "blood sugar diet." Its basically following a Mediterranean style diet with a dramatic cut in carbs. At the moment I am trying to stay under 100g of carbs a day.. its pretty hard.

I just have to keep reminding myself I guess that as soon as my BMI is below 30.. I can have tests done and get the ball rolling!

Hey ladies!

You’ve all inspired me to try to reduce my sugar intake. Not entirely sure where to even start. Which diet/guidelines are you following? How do I do this?! 😳
Fw week over and we’re both exhausted emotionally and physically. Had some serious chats with OH following my ‘last chance before 36’ meltdown which was really good. The chats not the meltdown.

@dino sounds like a serious timetable you’ve got there- crossing crossables for you!

Glad to hear you’re both well @looking

@books I thought it was standard to have an HSG or HyCoSy as a start of fertility investigations- mostly to rule out tube problems. I would defo chase this up.

Hiya @chooklass 👋 sorry to see you back here (in the nicest possible way!) and hope the break did you some good.

Quick update: I start 7 days of progesterone today, followed by a blood test next Thursday to see when I’ll start letrozole. Then tests to monitor for ovulation. Which is hopefully followed by sexy time followed by a BFP... [all crossables crossed]