The Good, The Bad and The Yams!

Actually, I was taking aspirin the cycle I got preggers, on a doctor's recommendation (not anymore). Interesting you were too, Limp!

Hey @LimpLettice and @SoozC ! Lovely to hear all is going well for you both and I'm glad you still check in now and then - your stories give me hope! X

Not unusual sorry

Hi all, also still checking in now and again to see how everyone is doing. I didn't wait as long as Sooz but had 3 miscarriages / chemicals in less than a year and frankly a shit time, but am now happily 25 weeks without intervention.

Funky I echo Sooz, the wait is for dating purposes. I actually conceived a week after my last miscarriage without trying to which is apparently unusual. I was told by a midwife (in a non professional capacity) to try 75mg aspirin while ttc and low and behold this one stuck. No idea if it's a magic bullet but I'm still taking it, my consultant says there's no harm in it and she thinks it probably did help. Sympathies. Whether it's termed chemical or what, I still felt terrible grief when they didn't work out. My gp has even the 5 weeker noted as a miscarriage.

Hi Yammers! Just popping in to see how you are. Sorry fp got so many of you, it really is horrible. Small consolation but we got our first bfp after 20 cycles, no idea why, I hadn't really done anything differently. I'd just started to look into fertility treatment too. So it can happen, but like I said, that doesn't really help. Just keeping things crossed for you all.

Funky, I had a mc last autumn. There's no medical reason you can't try again straightaway, they like you to wait a cycle for dating but no other reason. Just take it from when you feel ready. It took me 5 cycles post-mc to conceive again and, so far, all is well. Sorry for your loss.

Hey yammers and welcome @funkyembzie I've no personal experience with mc but I've also heard about waiting a cycle. I'd recommend seeing how your body/mind feels in a few days and poss also calling your gp for their thoughts. Sorry to hear uv had such a rough year.

The no sugar is more like a low sugar thing for me. I'm trying myo-inositol supplement and it seems to really reduce my sugar cravings (I've read it's fab for pcos which I don't have but it was on discount so I'm giving it a whirl). Trying to switch my usual cake for nuts, fruit and 'healthy' banana oat cookies but not being religious about it. I'm more focusing on trying to up my protein and reduce carbs as I've read it's better for fertility and especially if we end up doing ivf. And I ❤ carbs 😆

Morning yammers!

Welcome @funkyemzie sounds like you have had a really tough time, I’m sorry to hear that. I hope you can find some support here, there are sadly many yammers who have also experienced MC so I’m sure they’ll post to you soon. In the meantime look after yourself 💐

@chooklass every time I think about reducing my sugar I realise how hard that would be and chicken out so I haven’t even attempted it yet!

Welcome @Funkyemzie ! Sorry for your losses - sounds like a tough 12 months

I have no personal experience of whether it's best to wait a cycle or not, but I'm sure some of the other yammers will.

I'm struggling to get back on the low sugar wagon! I did so well the first few months but now I'm lucky if I manage a few days at a time. How are the rest of the low sugar folk getting on?!

Hi everyone! I see some familiar names on here, hope everyone is as well as can be.

Hoping it's ok to join you guys, I know it's sad that i remember dates but today is exactly 12 months (13 cycles) since we decided to start ttc #2. With 1 natural MC at 10+5 weeks and 1 chemical (currently going through now) I know we don't have a problem getting pregnant, it's just keeping hold of the little bean that's the problem.

Just settling down now and hcg levels are back down to

@Booksandbaths1 12?? mine is 3.3... theres no way I would be considered either. :( Sorry to hear FP arrived.. Mine also arrived on Sat.. one day late! (was beginning to get my hopes up too... stupid stupid.) Saying that London is pretty far for me to go for appointments etc.

@Si1ver that sounds really good! I just dunno what to do.. we have been trying for 15 months.. (now onto our 16th month) and i really wanna be pregnant naturally.. but maybe i should just bite the bullet and pay for it. We cant really fly away at the moment but its worth considering at least! Congrats btw.. cant remember if i said it or not. haha

Im off to google that clinic you spoke of though.. we are thinking about going to an open evening.. just to have a chat and see what its all about. Hopefully try and calm my nerves a little.

The biggest difficulty is that we seem to have A LOT of stress going on in our lives at the moment.. and I would hate to think that I was wasting all that money and for it not to work.. you know?

Urgh i dunno. this whole thing is a nightmare. SO fed up of TTC.

Hey @si1ver hope all is going well! Really good point about the ICSI included as with abc it’s an additional £1500

Oh and yes, first cycle.

While I remember - they collected 6 eggs, 5 were mature and they managed to fertilize them all. All made it to day 3 which is amazing and then the best quality one was transferred on day five. Two more we're considered good enough to freeze and the last two would have been good transfer of they'd been all we had, but wouldn't have coped with freezing and defrosting and so were discarded.

@Booksandbaths1 thanks for the congrats.

I think it was pmol, but I'd need to check to be 100%.

We went to Reprofit in the Czech Republic, Brno. They were fab. We filled in an online questionnaire with all our test results, they sent us a suggested protocol and we decided to go for it. So they sent us a prescription which we filled with an online (UK) pharmacy we had used before for blood tests and they sent us the drugs. It turns out the pharmacy partner with the clinic, which no one had told us, which is why the drugs were so much cheaper than buying elsewhere.

I had a private endometrial scratch the month before treatment, which cost me £150. But that was my personal choice.

Once we started treatment I needed a couple of private scans which cost about £100 each and then phoned the clinic with the results which enables them to adjust the protocol. Then we flew the Brno and transferred to the clinics care. They were awesome. We were there for ten days, so included a holiday. They do ICSI as standard, included in the above cost as is testing and freezing any left over embryos. Maintaining our frozen embryos will cost us €90 a year from next year.

Their stats for success are much better than UK clinics and the costs for further FET treatment is really low. Let me know if you have any other questions x

@Si1ver thank you - that's so encouraging to hear. Congrats too! Was your amh measured in pmol or ng/ml? That sounds like waaaay better value than my local ivf clinic (£6-7k). I'd definitely be interested in hearing where you went/how you found the process. Was it your first cycle?

And @Booksandbaths1 when I say low, my AMH was 2.4.

@Pinkemi I also have low AMH and I went abroad for IVF. It was hugely more affordable than the UK (£2.1k +£550 for drugs, then flights and accommodation)

I have two frozen embryos left with the clinic and I'm 15 weeks today. Let me know if you want any more details.

Ah nice @LexieJean - enjoy the time away and all those tasty treats 😀 Can you do an nhs cycle through abc? Maybe I'll get in touch with them. I live in the south west so not ideal location but v good prices. We may consider trying abroad for non nhs cycles as a way to keep the costs down. Our ccg only allows 1 ivf cycle per couple.

Cheers @books 🥂 I’m away for a few days so enjoying wine and coffee. And cheese. Sod this TTC malarkey. I’m at 30 something cycles. It’s too depressing to keep counting.

Concerned about what you’ve said about ABC ivf- my amh is 8 and they’ve accepted us 😳

Ugh even more depressed now... had a look at abc ivf and they want your amh to be 21pmol or above. But they'll consider you if it's over 12. Mine is 5! Not even anywhere close 😢

Hi all, hope weekends are going well. I've been away with my DH's fam and had to endure his dad making comments about when we're going to have a baby on the same day FP arrived (2 days late which had totally got my hopes up, I was gutted). DH's brother and sis both have kids and they don't understand why we haven't. Meh I just want to give ivf a go now as I've lost all hope of managing naturally now after 14 cycles and not a hint of bfp. Feeling hacked off and glum. Pass me the feckin wine.

@Pinkemi awww love big glass of vino this weekend then!

@LexieJean Yeah I guess im worried they will collect too many eggs in one go.. I dunno. Im trying to get my head round the idea of IVF as Im beginning to feel like its our only option! My Amh is 3.3.. so not really low.. but apparently very low for my age group.

@Owlpatrol Well done on the weight loss! I'm bag on the wagon this week (or at least trying as much as I can.) And i agree with you about IVF.. I really want to just get pregnant naturally... just.. dunno if its going to happen.

@Fizzy13 welcome back!

So its FP due day today.. just did my cervix checks and its still way up there. But.. my BBT Temp dropped again today and my resting heart rate has dropped too.. so im pretty sure she is on her way. Plus i burst into tears last night just out of the blue! (I mean i have a lot going on at the moment which could be the reason why for the tears.. but im convinced its FP on her way.)

Meh.. meh meh meh. lol

Welcome back @Fizzy13 ! Treat yourself to something nice today! FP day has turned into my treat day - helps me feel less gloomy x

Hello all,
I popped in 6 months ago to say hi and now I'm back. Over a year ttc and a miscarriage last October.
I did have a little ttc group via my 3yr olds antenatal group but they've all gone and got pregnant so I need some more buddies to complain at.
AF today so naturally I'm ridiculously hormonal, in pain and blaming myself for running out of patience with my son, being a bad mum as I haven't managed to make him a sibling etc etc.
Poor dh doesn't know what to do with me when I'm this illogical!
It's nice to know I'm not the only one

@Pinkemi awww hun sending massive hugs I'm in the same boat as you but my dh still won't go for his sperm analysis, I know most people are probably thinking just push him but he's a very fragile person (not weak, just emotional) so takes it very personally so I'm coaxing him into it plus trying to dtd every other day where possible to prove where we have done everything we can. I feel the same about going abroad and honestly I don't think IVF is for me anyway which is odd considering my first sentence. I just want to be pregnant naturally, normally we can't afford IVF and won't qualify on the nhs xx