When the going gets tough, the tough get Yams

@highwater There are nice guidelines which tell you what you should be getting. I wish I had read them but they are a bit wordy.

www.nice.org.uk/guidance/cg156/chapter/Recommendations

The IVF and fertility treatment varies place to place if and when you need it.

I went to the GP last June and I had two blood test including a day 21 progesterone. DH had to have his sperm checked. I was referred to gyn and had a hycosy in December, I am waiting for my follow up with gyn in march. I will then be referred to fertility services. Where I have been told they repeat most of the blood/sperm tests and a vaginal ultrasound. The waiting list for IVF assesment is a year from initially appointment with fertility services in my area. Prepare yourself for a wait

Definitely a shit fest in here at the moment. I hope by the end of this thread all of us are long gone with our bfp.

@bubblegum89 I same as you a year and a half down the line and no idea why it hasn't worked. Everything is fine literally everything and I'm in my 20s and it still doesn't work. Have never had a bfp ever. DH is not talking about it but looks heartbroken. The people who he sits with at work are either expecting or other half are expecting.

I have booked one of these private fertility checks. Today I have a vaginal ultrasound cause I need reassurance post my horrific hycosy. DH is having his sperm checked again as well.. so I didn't even get laid on valentine's. FML. Got hate for those people who get pregnant and making a baby was so romantic.

Also, can a SIS make you have a heavier period? I only ever cramp once af has arrived but been cramping on and off since yesterday and I’m wondering if maybe I’m gearing up for a decent period? Clutching at straws here obviously

Thanks for the advice @Bubblegum89 and @WonkyDonk87 and good luck to everyone in the TWW!

Sooz good grief, not a stuffy nose?! I have woken up with weird pinching crampy pains that I’ve never had before. That totally means something right? Even though there is less than 0% chance I could be pregnant haha. How are your boobs? Mine still aren’t sore, thank god.

Hi All, I've popped on here at work to catch up as I've still no internet at home and have managed to rinse all my data now as well.

I'm so sorry to read so much bad news and that everyone is feeling down. I really really want there to be some good news coming through on this thread, we're long overdue for it and we've all earnt it haven't we?!

I'm in yet another TWW. In desperation we tried that SMEP thing this month which was gruelling -and won't work-
My husband is going for his SA on Monday so we're a bit nervous about what that will show. I've already had my blood tests so depending on the SA results, we will we back to the drs for further referral.

I'm 38 now though so I'm well into the "too old" zone

I'm currently about 5 or 6 dpo and I feel sick so naturally I'm getting my hopes up and will no doubt have them crushed at the end of the month.

and to all. x.

I recently found out that my CCG has ceased all IVF funding which I had a little cry about so my only option will be going private but I'd like to get the tests done on the NHS if at all possible....

I am over 35. (Eeeek). In my area, they do the initial tests, at your GP, after 6 months. Can’t get a referral to fertility clinic without day 3, day 21 and pelvic scan for females, and SA for males, without having those tests done via GP first. The whole testing process took a couple of months due to having to time for certain cycle days etc. I had my first appointment at the fertility clinic end of Jan and my next appointment with the consultant is mid-April. During that time I have to have a couple more tests via the hospital. I don’t think it has been that bad in terms of timing and waiting times.

I think the guidance for IVF for unexplained is 2 years ttc but my consultant said they can take a view on that and go for ivf at less than 2 years. The upper age limit for IVF in my area is 43.

@SoozC @Bubblegum89 @WonkyDonk87 af is due on Saturday for me too, can I buddy up?

Our local CCG guidelines say two years unless there is a known cause of infertility eg.PCOS. I tried to suggest my wonky cycle was evidence of infertility in of itself but no joy from the GP and a cry in the car for me 😒

@wonky one Dr tried to fob me off with two years so I went and saw a different GP. A women this time and she took our TTC history and asked for the test straight away. We got a bfp before we got our referral so we are pushing that in April along with going private for tests too.

Have a read of the NICE guidelines, I’m sure it’s in there that it’s a year of TTC before 35 and 6 months over 35. The amount of testing/help you’ll get depends on area and if you already have children or step children etc.

Why do you have to wait until it’s been two years? I was referred after all my blood tests from the doctor came back normal. In my area you are referred after 12 months and if no issues are found, you have to continue ttc naturally until it’s been two years before they will refer you for NHS funded IVF. I don’t qualify for that though, but if you are o think that’s the general rule but it’s different in different parts of the country. Which I think is wrong but there you go!

Thanks, pretty sure this is the start of it as what I've got going on looks nothing like the IB pics on google. Cycle this long and I'm still symptom spotting 🙄

Did most people get referred to a fertility clinic after 12 months then? I've got to wait until I reach two years.

Course wonkydonk join away haha hopefully she won’t show up through ;)

highwater you will need the 21 day bloods done first then ask about your OH doing a semen sample. Once they’ve been done (if they’re all normal) they’ll refer you to a fertility clinic who will take over with more blood tests and scans etc. If there is anything you are particularly concerned about, make sure you mention it to your dr. They will follow the basic “script” usually but will take things you suggest into consideration :)

Sooz and Bubble can I (tentatively) join and be an AF buddy too? Had ewcm on the 1st, sensitive nipples on the 2nd and yesterday and today started a pathetic bit of brown spotting. Surely I must be deserving of AF by now? Saturday will be cd80

Highwater sorry I can't help - I get fobbed off every time and just shuffle out muttering "thanks" then cry in the car like a knob

Hi everyone, I'm going to book my 12 month appointment with my GP shortly, can you give me some advice on what tests I should be asking for except for the day 3/21 bloods? I know they will try and fob me off so I want to go prepared!

sooz looks like we’re af buddies, mine is due Saturday too. I’ve had no tww symptoms this month. Apart from weird twingey cramps that started today. I don’t even know why I thought twice about it as we actively DIDN’T dtd in my fertile week this month because I was having my HyCoSy. Why do we do this to ourselves?? I know for sure my af is going to show up on Saturday but I’ll keep my fingers crossed that yours doesn’t!

I never drink blood, fish in it..... No that's not Oscar Wilde

Doctor, doctor, there's a fish in my ** nope too rude! blood work

Ahahahaha

FSH not fish. FFS.