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TTC after recurrent miscarriage

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LisaSimpsonsbff · 10/09/2017 11:48

Hi, just wondering if anyone else was in a similar place to me and wanted to chat about it? I'm 30, TTC my first and have had three miscarriages, all early (two natural MCs at five weeks, then a MMC where a scan at 6+5 revealed development had again stopped at 5 weeks). I've had RMC tests and am just waiting on the results of that but hoping to be able to TTC again from my next period, which should come any day now. I've found throughout the whole thing (have been TTC just over a year now) that it's really helped me to chat with people in similar positions, so if anyone wants to be TTC buddies please let me know!

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LisaSimpsonsbff · 27/09/2017 18:20

I didn't realise it was so soon now, keepon (I'm sort of in denial about it being nearly October!) - I can see how that's both good and scary. What is the actual operation like? Will you need much recovery time?

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keeponrunning85 · 27/09/2017 12:56

My op is next Friday. We haven't been TTC since the last MC at the beginning of May so have had quite a long break and the op has sort of been a distant, magic fix in my mind. Now it is almost here I've been thinking more about what if it isn't the magic fix. DH and I have pretty much agreed that we're just going to give it one more go and I've been worrying about what happens if I have another miscarriage.

I'm not sure how long we'll have to wait after the op before we start trying again. Some consultants say 6 weeks, some say 12. At my last appointment I was so focussed on getting my consultant to agree to the op that I didn't ask! I'm hoping she's towards the shorter end of the scale.

LisaSimpsonsbff · 26/09/2017 21:37

Really sorry to hear you're feeling stressed keeping. I think it's completely understandable - your DH is right, of course, but as you said keeping calm can be so difficult when you feel down and panicky.

I remember miami - we were on the pregnancy after miscarriage thread together for my most recent one, I think she had more or less the same due date as me. What horrendous, heartbreaking news.

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MogScratch · 26/09/2017 18:16

Bertie - Good luck for fertile time. Hope you can keep it relaxed.

Flynn - What were the tablets for?

Keep - being patient is definitely easier said than done. Do you have a date for when surgery will be done?

I'll be interested to know what acupuncturist does / suggests when I say I'm pregnant. She is focused on getting blood to my uterus so probably more of the same I guess. She isn't a fertility specialist because I went for another reason too (which is no better at all!). And hasn't stuck needles in my back, so interesting to hear what others have had done. Needles have been in my feet, legs until knees, stomach, wrists, elbows and head. Don't know how much is for one reason or another but maybe linked.

keeponrunning85 · 26/09/2017 15:39

Eek! Tentative congratulations mog. Lots of finger crossing for you. And for more of them!

So sad to hear that about Miami. We got our last BFPs around the same time. Even though mine didn't work out I was hopeful for her.

I had quite an agitated/anxious week last week. DH gave me a pep talk at the weekend, pointing out that I probably shouldn't be getting so worked up about TTC and having another MC when I haven't had my surgery yet. I know he is right but it is easier said than done!

Please keep on with the accupuncture updates ladies.

flynn80 · 26/09/2017 15:07

I go away for the weekend and weve had a BFP, Mog I have everything bleedin crossed for you, Usually Id feel slight envious pangs but for you, theres literally nothing but joy, and pray that it works.

although I too sadly remember Miami and cant even imagine how shes feeling at the minute, I keep that as my silver lining, that none of my Mc's have gone beyond 8 weeks so Ive not had to deal with much stuff from hospitals, I usually let them happen at home.

Anne it was me who mentioned the sweaty hands, so weird that you've got them too, and the pain may have been if she has placed a needle in a nerve, I had this happen to me yesterday and couldnt move my foot the entire time, kept getting little shocks all the way though, but strangely had a good rest just lying there.

She gave me the tablets to take yesterday too, 4 in the am and 4 in pm. She said my body is now fine as ive not had any of the foods she told me to avoid, so its up to the next pregnancy to cling on, she told me to avoid hard work and get plenty of rest too when I do get a bfp, which is odd as I'm never able to rest, I always have to be doing something!

lisa my dp went through a similar thing, but a good chat bout why it was still important to keep trying sorted him out. Gotta run but will catch up later, hope everyones well today anyway Smile

BertieBotts · 26/09/2017 14:24

I like it when people in similar situations get pg, it makes the random baby bombs easier :)

Just finished period now so should be fertile soon. Might try and pin DH down to DTD before it gets all about ovulation again because I think I get a bit stressy about it Blush I don't think he minds but still.

Oh no I remember Miami :( 27 weeks must be awful.

MogScratch · 26/09/2017 14:14

Lisa - That's very sweet of your DH - even if it's unhelpful! I hope work stress doesn't get in the way and means you are distracted from the 2 week wait.

Missed period was at weekend so only a couple of weeks.

I went and looked at pregnant after miscarriage but Miami has just had a miscarriage at 27 weeks, so it didn't seem a good time to introduce myself. Did you know her on the ttc after miscarriage thread?

Also you are all so lovely that if you don't mind I'll keep chatting to you and hopefully be here when you get your bfp's very soon!

LisaSimpsonsbff · 26/09/2017 13:32

And how are you feeling, mog? Do you know how far past ovulation you are?

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LisaSimpsonsbff · 26/09/2017 13:31

Thanks, Anne. It's basically going to be a horrible three weeks at work for various reasons, but end in sight! We had a bit of a bad time TTC last week - for the first time in this whole palaver, DH had some 'performance issues' for a couple of days in a row and I was quite worried about it because he admitted that he was scared of getting me pregnant and having to go through the whole thing again. BUT last night we had a really nice time with no problems, so I'm hoping it was just a momentary panic for him (obviously trying not to go on about it as that seems counterproductive). I'm on CD15 and day three of flashy faces - I normally ov between CD14 and CD18, so should be any day now (unhelpfully temping reveals that I seem to ovulate the day that I get a static on a Clearblue, not the day after like most people). Last night was the first time we'd successfully managed it in a week (I was away for two nights before the couple of times where it went badly), so hoping to get a couple more goes in! How are things with you?

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AnneLovesGilbert · 26/09/2017 10:19

Sorry about your day Lisa, hope today is better. A BFP for Mog! Such lovely news.

How is the TTC again going? I know you were a bit worried about it.

I'm CD11, expecting ov around the weekend. More acupuncture on Saturday. Must remember to ask questions! Smile

LisaSimpsonsbff · 25/09/2017 22:56

Oooh, just thought I'd pop in after a bit of a rubbish day (work not TTC) and have been cheered by mog's news! I know it's hard to keep positive when you've lost before, but glad that you think the acupuncture has helped you feel calm. Definitely stay for as long as you find this a helpful place!

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MogScratch · 25/09/2017 20:02

Thank you. It feels a bit surreal and not sure I have taken it in yet. 3rd pregnancy of the year, so will see what happens!

AnneLovesGilbert · 25/09/2017 18:39

Yay, our first BFP mog! So happy for you. How are you feeling? Do hang around if you'd like to.

di626 · 25/09/2017 17:59

Oh my goodness Mog thats brill ... we will all be keeping you in our thoughts ... keep us updated 💕💕

MogScratch · 25/09/2017 17:47

Glad you have found someone nice Anne and it's been good to talk.

Hello Di. I have been thinking the same thoughts about paying for my own tests.

BUT not yet as I think I'm pregnant again! Eek scared but happy. Wondering if it was acupuncture. Definitely my cycles are back to normal quicker than last time and I'm feeling relaxed and positive from it. Will never know, but I'm going to keep going with it now hope it helps stop another miscarriage.

di626 · 25/09/2017 17:08

Hey everyone, im jumping on this thread. Just had my second loss - mmc this time & im at the feeling criss stage. I wish i wasnt saying it but take comfort in the fact other people unfortunately are going through the same & worse 😩. Im thinking of going private for tests as not sure i can go through another m/c. I have a son who us 10 1/2 with a different partner but my hubby & I are desperate to have our own. I just 🙏🏻 it works out for us all. Im now 35 & feel age is not on my side.

AnneLovesGilbert · 25/09/2017 12:55

Congratulations CL, that's lovely news.

Interesting on the diet recommendations Mog.

Session was really good! As other people have said, it might be the opportunity to talk that's the most helpful. I found it really cathartic to discuss everything that's happened over the last 13 odd months. Had a brief sob, but nothing major. And she was the nicest person, so warm and kind, easy to talk to, asked good questions, listened, very calming and peaceful.

It was about an hour of medical history and chat then half an hour of needles and drawing the marks on my back and feet.

She talked an awful lot of sense and I actually wished I asked more about her approach but it was quite healing and useful to talk and I'm going back Saturday morning so I'll do less talking and more listening then.

She did a circle of needles in my back with me sitting up and we chatted while they were in which was nice, then I lay down and she did two in each foot. Could barely feel anything in my back but the ones in my right foot were exquisitely painful, not sure why! Didn't last long though and I felt fine afterwards.

I had the sweating hands someone else mentioned. Very odd for me as I'm usually cold and always have freezing extremities. I also had no appetite all day, literally realised it was half 6 and I hadn't eaten all day, never like me! So some interesting effects.

I'm looking forward to going back, feel better for doing something to help myself, and with that and Pilates I feel really positively focussed on maintaining good health, eating well, sleeping more and concentrating on nurturing myself, inside and out.

How's everyone this week?

CL1982 · 24/09/2017 16:44

Hey OP. Sorry to crash this-randomly wound up on the TTC thread. I had x3 mcs around the same time as you. Went into the RMC and it was going to be a 3 month wait so went trough my work privately. The consultant was epic. He would have tested for NKCs and a few others and in the end stuck me on lethroxyn for my thyroid levels (anything g over 3 should be lower), high dose folic acid, baby aspirin and also progesterone support. It did the job and I'm now 17 weeks.

Now, it could have been just that we had 3 bad eggs but I did suspect we needed that little bit of support.....

How are you doing now? I should have possibly read through to the end of this thread....

MogScratch · 23/09/2017 20:49

Hello been busy since I last posted, but have read when I can.

Flynn Interesting she thinks you have wet / cold womb, apparently I am yin and blood deficient. Which from what I have read is the opposite. My acupuncturist is very keen on diet and eating certain foods to rebalance the yin and yang. Lots of the foods they recommend I don't like and the ones I shouldnt have, like hot spices and curry's I do and eat lots of!

Sorry to hear about frustrating hospital results and attitudes. I hope your appointment is more helpful Lisa.

AnneLovesGilbert · 23/09/2017 12:36

Thank you lisa, that's sweet of you. I'll report back!

That's good you'll get your results soon. I asked for a print out (he made me promise not to google anything when he handed them over!) but a useful thing was they have my numbers with the normal ranges in brackets next to them so I got the full picture rather than a "all seems fine". All was fine but I got to have a proper nerd out at home after to double check!

LisaSimpsonsbff · 23/09/2017 09:53

I think it's your acupuncture session today, Anne? Hope it goes well if so - let us hear how you get on, was really interesting to read Flynn's experience!

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LisaSimpsonsbff · 22/09/2017 20:39

Really interesting - and moving - to hear the different ways in which we've all reacted and the ways that we've all, in one way or another, sought comfort from a wider universe.

In rather more prosaic news, got my appointment through for follow-up consultation (and test results) at recurrent miscarriage today: a week Tuesday. So hard not to get my hopes up for 'an answer' even though I know that unexplained is in many ways the best prognosis, and by far the most likely outcome.

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BertieBotts · 22/09/2017 19:11

I'm normally quite sceptical but yes the whole miscarriage/infertility thing has been known to bring out my woo side. Not to the point of actually seeking out alternative therapies - though I do wish those of you who are trying that success! - just not for me, but I don't mind carrying a couple of crystals around and I found comfort during one of my miscarriages from an online tarot reading thing. It's so stupid but the card said something like "Your loved one wants you to know that they are at peace and it's okay to let go now" and it felt like something clicked and I started to grieve at that point. So it was helpful.

FoxtrotSkarloey · 22/09/2017 18:30

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