TTC after recurrent miscarriage

Ah, sorry to hear that Lisa. It's so disappointing even if you didn't have your hopes up too much.

Flynn I think those OPKs are pretty good, but for me they show up positive actually on the day of O so were really just confirming what I already knew from other symptoms. I found them useful in my early days of cycle watching though to show when the LH was going up. They def take a while to show a line though - I'd say anywhere between 10 - 20 minutes. I got best results when doing them when I got in from work at 6, and reminding myself not to drink much for the 2 hours before.

Amazon HPT strips are also good if people are looking for cheap tests. Not that I encourage constant POAS of course

Anne your mum sounds a bit like mine. She came out with some corkers when I had my first MC - all the classics like at least i know I can get pregnant, blah blah blah. She also told me that if she was in my position she'd just give up altogether. Which is doubly insulting as it means she wouldn't have bothered to have me. Thanks, mum! She is really supportive and I know she doesn't mean anything bad but still....

Hi op, I just wanted to share my experience, I had 3 mcs pretty close together, after I had my first dc. We stopped trying for one year, to have a physical and emotional rest, then tried again and got pregnant the third month. He's fast asleep upstairs right now. There is hope, best of luck. Xx

H everyone, Im sadly recognising so many names from previous threads i've been on - I was buddah101 on them, Miami There are no words for you lovely, I'm just absolutely gutted for you and know whenever you feel like we are all available to listen to you rant, scream, shout whatever it is you need to do xx

anne glad to see you back, and sorry you have a mother like that, as lovely as they re, I'm watching my friend go through IVF with a similar mother and she often calls me in tears over something stupid her mum has said to her that day. I just think its so hard for people to understand unless they've been through it, like an awful lot of situations sometimes its just better to give a hg and let them know they are there for you if they ever feel like it, rather than go in with, well judy and rich got married and were pregnant within 2 months so im sure it can happen for you .

I got speaking to another lady recently, someone I met through taking Jake to school and weve kind of bonded over stupid things, she confided in me at the weekend that shes been trying for a baby for2 years and had 8 Miscarriages in that time - I couldnt believe it! Just goes to show you really dont have any idea of what goes on behind closed doors.

scaryduck I use those opk's too, how do you find them, I wrote upthread about them showing 2 lines all the time for me and I can't work out how to read them properly still after nearly 2 years! Do you read them right away? Sometimes they dont show anything, then I go back a few hours later and the 2 lines are there both the same colour, As cheap as they are I struggle with them!.

And I saw that other thread, I only made it half way down page 1, Im sorry for those that got further and its caused upset, some people are just truly vile.

From what you say, they sound like a bunch of arseholes. Yes, you never really get how shit it is till it happens to you. No, there's no excuse for people being twattish and minimising the awfulness of pregnancy loss.

My mum has come out with some unintentional corkers. Recently we've had a repeat of "darling it all seems so difficult. It's a wonder anyone managed to get pregnant in my day. I was so so lucky. All the children I wanted and exactly when I wanted them".

Yes mother, I fucking know. There's no bloody logic or sense to any of it. I'm trying my bloody best.

Also with my last one "is it like a heavy period? It probably is. I've had some awful periods". Nope. I too have heavy periods. I was losing yet another precious desperately wanted baby. It's a totally different type of physical/mental/emotional fucking pain.

When I told her I'd started temping she said she'd done it when they were ttc my brother. And guess what? Only lasted a month as she got pregnant straight away.

I know she loves me, is heartbroken and so disappointed for me. And I really don't think I'm particularly sensitive. But every now and then it's just a kick in the nuts. She's genuinely baffled by my inability thus far to actually have a baby. Well, this wasn't how I'd imagined it either.

I expect we've all been on the other side of it so to also see it on a forum like this must be appalling.

Rant over. I've had a big gin, sorry... Hope everyone's okay tonight.

Yes, I'm sure it was wonderful in the days where women died of ectopic pregnancy because we didn't know how to diagnose it

I don't know if IVF is covered here as we haven't got that far yet, it probably depends on the reasons why and your health insurance.

Fox my OPKs are dunkers - I have these off Amazon, they are v cheap so you could always try them out and see if you get on with them or not. They work perfectly. I've given up though, am "lucky" enough to get pre-ov pain so I usually have some idea when it's coming. Although messed up this month!

Seriously?! Some people really have no idea. Although I am with Anne and kind of wish I hadn't missed it. Has the thread been removed?

Finger crossing for you Lisa and all you other hopeful twats

Ugh, just thinking about that thread annoys me! People just do not get it. What really annoys me is people not accepting other people's feelings - like they feel one way and can't imagine that other people feel another.

PGD is an option Anne and Keep - not for all translocations, but it works for mine. It's not a great option though - really low success rates so can expect potentially 3 or 4 rounds of IVF to get one normal embryo. Which is then subject to the usual failings of IVF. A lot of what would be "normals" don't survive the process, and chromosomes which could correct themselves are discarded as abnormal. Ultimately the take home baby rate is about the same for natural as IVF, the only difference is the number of miscarriages you go through to get there. i.e. around 60% of couples get a baby at the end. Pretty crappy odds really. I'm on the fence about it just now - lucky I can get pg, but not sure how many more MCs I can face, but also really do not want to go through IVF. Crap all round actually. I try to be positive, the good news is I ovulate, my AMH is good for my age, my DP has excellent sperm, so it could always be worse. Right?!

What are your HT symptoms! Far more interesting

Bless you Foxtrot, roughly when is af due?

Have you done OPK before? I haven't but some people find it helpful. I actively loath peeing on sticks these days so like temping but you don't get confirmation till 3 days later and twice it's changed on me anyway!

The best was last cycle when having panicked it hadn't happened I was all of a sudden 6dpo.

Do you get any ov symptoms?

Welcome Play

Can't believe I missed drama on another thread!

I was wondering the same thing about screening and whether that's an option. Honestly, the idea of telling people to just go away, crack on and expect an unknown number of more losses because they'll hopefully get a take home baby in the end is barbaric.

Do you have to pay for IVF in Germany Bertie?

Sounds like you're covered this month . And I hope your son has a nice birthday.

Thanks for explaining Lisa, that makes sense.

I'm entering hopeful twat territory, just slightly Not that I haven't had all these feelings in the past to then get a bright white BFN. But still.

Morning ladies and welcome play. Everything does feel like it takes forever and a day doesn't it. I hope the time passes quickly for those waiting for results. Scary I agree, as desperate as we are for a child, DH and I have both found the enforced break from TTC helpful. And I have most definitely not missed the TWW! I am finger crossing for those of you currently in it.

Please excuse my ignorance, but with a known translocation is pre-implantation screening an option? And if so is it available on the NHS? Although Bertie, am I right in thinking you don't live in the UK?

That's the thing which I've found frustrating about this process. So long. We are going to get a new karyotype done - unsure if they'll test me too - we know DH has a balanced translocation - don't know which one or how big the breaks are, but we have to wait until January even for the initial appointment, so I really hope we don't have to wait weeks and weeks for the results too. That's just going to drive me insane.

However more time trying naturally means less chance of needing to go to IVF in the end I think that's scaring me more than the chance of more miscarriages to be honest.

Hi all, just catching up after being away for the weekend. I think I saw that thread you're talking about Play and Bertie, I had to stop reading after a few pages as it was annoying me too much!
I hope your results don't take too long Play, my karyotype only took 5 weeks in the end. But then in a way it can be good to have an enforced break sometimes.

As for me, I think I've ovulated but temps being a bit weird, and with being away last week don't think we had the timing quite right so who knows. So it's another 2ww - don't know if I'm more hoping it's worked or hoping it hasn't....

Hope everyone has a good Monday.

Ah don't apologise. I said some pretty blunt things myself it's a subject I get heated up about!

The karyotype is being sent to GOSH so will take anything up to 12 weeks to come back. Everything takes so bloody long

Hiya PlayOn - sorry if I upset you on the other thread, I shouldn't really have posted on it as it was making me a bit cross. Ho hum.

How long will you have to wait for your bloods? I've heard such massive varying timescales.

Hi ladies so sorry to see so many of us here. I've been directed over by the lovely lisa

A bit about me/us we have had 5 consecutive early losses between 5 and 9 weeks over the past 4 years. Our last one being this year at 9 weeks which was genetically tested and came back as t22 (originally told t21). We have both had karyotype bloods done and I've had the usual sticky blood and thyroid tests done. We've been told to not try until they're back.

Current thinking for us is hyperfertility as we very rarely have sex but when we do and have sex at the right time we catch straight away. I'm not sure how they manage that but I can't just keep trying due to complications with my health arising from fluctuating hormones.

So that's where we are at...

Look forward to getting to know you all and wish you all safe happy pregnancies.